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Enough Of The Criticism Of Nikola Zigic Already
Topic Started: Jun 18 2010, 04:16 PM (3,692 Views)
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To dismiss the potential of anybody before they've kicked a ball wearing a Blues shirt is incredibly stupid and can only damage our club. I suspect it's stupidity rather than malice.
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Jun 23 2010, 08:15 PM
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Jun 23 2010, 07:11 PM
Just been watching the Serbia/Australia game. Hate to say it but he can't head a ball.

You are right there, can't believe we are paying him £50,000 a week

come on chaps. This is only his 3rd game since we bought him. "He can't be carp, he's a Blues player"...................what tosh.

I'd rather have been less stubborn and bought Pav.

Oh yeah, because 3 games is a fair amount of time to judge him eh.

Show anyone England's games and ask them who our best player is, and nobody would get the right answer and say Rooney would they.

Give the guy a chance in our team maybe? Or just jump to conclusions as usual.

I'd rather have Pav.......and tbh if you want to go around comparing him to England's players, I'd rather have Emile Heskey.

Comparing the poor Zigic to England's players' poor performances will not make Zigic any better. If he's a duffer then he's a duffer no matter how anybody else plays.

Of course you would prefer Pav, we all would, including AM.
BUT, we can't afford him at the price Spurs are demanding.
We have to remember we have paid just £4m + £2m add ons for Zigic compared to the £12m-£15m being asked for Pav, a big difference in price and quality you can expect for the price.

AM is probably not expecting Zigic to be our star player next season, but as a useful aquisition to bolster the attacking options of the squad. We do not yet know how AM will utilise Zigic. In the 3 World Cup games he has been used as a lone striker in a very poor side that doesn't get players up in support - very different to how Blues play with midfielders providing quick support to the strikers.

I expect (hope?) that Cameron will retain his place as lead striker given his very good contribution of 11 goals from 32 games last season. CJ is still young, learning and improving whilst playing in the toughest league in the world, and is a credit to Blues both on and off the pitch. Very underrated by supporters, CJ having signed a new 5 year contract last season (on very reasonable money), should be considered our great hope, who, with good support and encouragement from our supporters, could become a Blues legend over time.

As far as Zigic is concerned, time will tell, and if people are honest, most will never have seen him play before this World Cup, and it is unfair to judge to him expecially when so many 'top' players are performing so badly in the World Cup thus far.

Zigic is a Blues player, and as such, deserves (and will need) our total support in order for him to succeed. If we want him to fail, then the best option is to slag him off. The choice is ours.
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bluebel Posted on Jun 24 2010, 08:19 AM

Zigic is a Blues player, and as such, deserves (and will need) our total support in order for him to succeed. If we want him to fail, then the best option is to slag him off. The choice is ours.

I couldn't agree more.... **thumbup :applause:
The criticisms on this Forum come from negative people....
The encouragement from those who are positive....
I recall Crouch being criticised continually even by England supporters but he just kept his head down and delivered....
Ziggy hasn't joined Blues to fail....
He has joined Blues to contribute and be part of our future success....
Just be aware that the difference between England's first two games and the one they played yesterday was attitude and we the supporters are the ones who can influence that either one or the other :break:
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bluebel Posted on Jun 24 2010, 08:19 AM

Zigic is a Blues player, and as such, deserves (and will need) our total support in order for him to succeed. If we want him to fail, then the best option is to slag him off. The choice is ours.

I couldn't agree more.... **thumbup :applause:
The criticisms on this Forum come from negative people....
The encouragement from those who are positive....
I recall Crouch being criticised continually even by England supporters but he just kept his head down and delivered....
Ziggy hasn't joined Blues to fail....
He has joined Blues to contribute and be part of our future success....
Just be aware that the difference between England's first two games and the one they played yesterday was attitude and we the supporters are the ones who can influence that either one or the other :break:

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Jun 23 2010, 07:11 PM
Just been watching the Serbia/Australia game. Hate to say it but he can't head a ball.

You are right there, can't believe we are paying him £50,000 a week

come on chaps. This is only his 3rd game since we bought him. "He can't be carp, he's a Blues player"...................what tosh.

I'd rather have been less stubborn and bought Pav.

Oh yeah, because 3 games is a fair amount of time to judge him eh.

Show anyone England's games and ask them who our best player is, and nobody would get the right answer and say Rooney would they.

Give the guy a chance in our team maybe? Or just jump to conclusions as usual.

1 game was enough for people to start slating benetiz, I remember people saying he was rubbish after the manure game after the one shot at the keeper
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I have watched Zigic with interest during the WC.

I honestly don't believe McLeish signed him to be a 15-20 goal-a-season-striker. It has already become evident that McLeish signed him to be more of a presence by playing him alongside a quicker more predatory finisher - Miccoli was the target, possibly Keane will be the next.

People shouldn't get on his back just yet. If we were going into the season (which we may still do) with him and Jerome leading the line then I may be slightly worried.

People need to remember that the Jerome/Benitez were found out eventually. The pace factor caused teams problems until they learned to control them. Zigic + one other will give us a completely different dimension and threat next season - one that the Premiership will need time to adjust to.
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Francis No.8
Jun 23 2010, 07:11 PM
Just been watching the Serbia/Australia game. Hate to say it but he can't head a ball.

You are right there, can't believe we are paying him £50,000 a week

come on chaps. This is only his 3rd game since we bought him. "He can't be carp, he's a Blues player"...................what tosh.

I'd rather have been less stubborn and bought Pav.

Oh yeah, because 3 games is a fair amount of time to judge him eh.

Show anyone England's games and ask them who our best player is, and nobody would get the right answer and say Rooney would they.

Give the guy a chance in our team maybe? Or just jump to conclusions as usual.

Yes but we know Rooney can do it but we do not know if Zigic can, he looks very tired and to be honest, this is probably down to match fitness and we should all see a fresh Zigic come August **thumbup
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Jun 25 2010, 06:22 AM
Yes but we know Rooney can do it but we do not know if Zigic can, he looks very tired and  to be honest, this is probably down to match fitness and we should all see a fresh Zigic come August  **thumbup

'he looks very tired and to be honest, this is probably down to match fitness'
Exactly the same as could be said for Rooney, given how he played and appeared, and he's supposed to be worth at least 10 times what we paid for Zigic!!

In fact I think Zigic had a better World Cup than Rooney, but then again that wouldn't have been hard and who didn't have a better World Cup than Rooney? Which all goes to show that you can't make judgements on a player's ability in a rarified situation such as the World Cup that comes at the end (for most players) of the domestic season.

Zigic did look tired and lacking match fitness which, after a complete break for a couple of weeks, could be transformed during a full pre-season with Blues and playing in a system that more suits his style.

Zigic will need our full support, and tolerance (not something football supporters are renowned!), to ensure he can settle into a new team, a new country and a new playing style **thumbup
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I have watched Zigic with interest during the WC.

I honestly don't believe McLeish signed him to be a 15-20 goal-a-season-striker. It has already become evident that McLeish signed him to be more of a presence by playing him alongside a quicker more predatory finisher - Miccoli was the target, possibly Keane will be the next.

People shouldn't get on his back just yet. If we were going into the season (which we may still do) with him and Jerome leading the line then I may be slightly worried.

People need to remember that the Jerome/Benitez were found out eventually. The pace factor caused teams problems until they learned to control them. Zigic + one other will give us a completely different dimension and threat next season - one that the Premiership will need time to adjust to.

If Zigig is partnered with Jerome then he will be in for a shock!!

If Zigic thinks he is going to get a decent pass, a flick on, a one two or anything from Jerome then He is in for one big wakeup call!!

Jerome will benefit immensely from Zigig from flick on's ,good touch ect..

In short Zigig will be good for Jerome, but Jerome wont be any good for Zigig, not in the slightest!!

I just wonder if the big man has any Idea what he has let himself in for!!!

Kro.
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If Jerome does benefit from Zigic, and adds MORE goals to his game (11 last season, for a newly promoted team!) Then we have our 15 -20 goal a seson man. So surely thats job done????

Or is that way too positive for you?
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I guess to get the best of of Zigic we need players who can deliver telling balls into the box.

Lets be honest, who at Blues can get the best out of Zigic? Or is he just our 'trophy' signing to parade in front of the camera's who will want out after a year because he is getting no service or long balls punted towards him.

Thoughts?
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Jul 4 2010, 10:19 AM


Thoughts?

Bring back Benitez **thumbup

Would have been Ideal to play with Ziggy < <

Kro.
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Jul 4 2010, 12:37 PM
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Jul 4 2010, 10:19 AM


Thoughts?

Bring back Benitez **thumbup

Would have been Ideal to play with Ziggy < <

Kro.

I did think that to be honest Kev. I think Zigic would have got the best out of Chucho than Jerome did.
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Thoughts?

Bring back Benitez **thumbup

Would have been Ideal to play with Ziggy < <

Kro.

yes bring back somebody who scored 2 league goals instead of playing jerome who scored 10 makes sense :whistle:
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Thoughts?

Bring back Benitez **thumbup

Would have been Ideal to play with Ziggy < <

Kro.

yes bring back somebody who scored 2 league goals instead of playing jerome who scored 10 makes sense :whistle:

Benitez has been refused a permit hasn't he?
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Thoughts?

Bring back Benitez **thumbup

Would have been Ideal to play with Ziggy < <

Kro.

I did think that to be honest Kev. I think Zigic would have got the best out of Chucho than Jerome did.

Agreed **thumbup

Wonder how much Rory Delap would cost from Stoke? :blink:

Think about it, we wouldnt have to worry about wasting any money on a winger for starters :)

In fact We could drop Jerome and play Ziggy up from on his own, our aim could be to win as many throw ins as possible < <

Ziggy and Delap the perfect combination!!!

Makes sense eh..

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Yep, I can see it now....

Delap throw in.....Zigic flicks on.....Ridgewell ends up top scorer ;)
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Zigic looked like a good player in the WC. Great touch, skills and passing.

He only had two good chances provided for him in the WC, one rattled the bar when he showed how dangerous he can be in the air.

I think we've signed a good player, we just need some
more of them!!
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Zigic looked like a good player in the WC. Great touch, skills and passing.

He only had two good chances provided for him in the WC, one rattled the bar when he showed how dangerous he can be in the air.

I think we've signed a good player, we just need some
more of them!!
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Jun 18 2010, 06:43 PM
I am sick of the way players and the manager get criticised on this board, not sure I can be bothered with it any more :(

amazingly you don't hear these people slagging off Rooney for his contribution in the world cup so far, and he's scored as many goals as Zigic so far in the competition.

(Facts correct at time of posting)

To be honest, Rooney's World Cup performances so far make Zigic look like Pele

hahahaha!!
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If Jerome does benefit from Zigic, and adds MORE goals to his game (11 last season, for a newly promoted team!) Then we have our 15 -20 goal a seson man. So surely thats job done????

Or is that way too positive for you?

jerome is a badass player.. this season he will prove it. i don't like the fact that he doesn't seem to get enough praise by many fans for his work ethic. that along with being our top scorer last season.. i really hope we can get behind him and the rest of the team.. zigic is a good player.. and he will show that.. he also offers us something a bit different.

i'm actually more excited to see how fahey / michel / gardner will play this season. all three are waaaaaaay under-rated in my opinion.. we just need a pacey winger with skill.. we need the zog..
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Zigic looked like a good player in the WC. Great touch, skills and passing.


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Saw him play against us (Australia) in Nelspruit. Subbed in the 67th minute by Antic and Timmy Cahill scored in the 69th , good move !!!.
Seriously , I think he is a player , he caused heaps of problems to the Australian defence mainly with his height and his ability to bring those around him into the game is first class . A decent partner up front and I believe Blues have a (cheapish) diamond.
Lucas Neill & Michael Beauchamp struggled to cope with him and he set up or was involved in their two clear cut "should have scored" chances in the first half. Only doubt may be the ability to see out 90 minutes but fatigue was a big factor for more so called stars them him in South Africa. An astute buy until otherwise proven in this Blue Australians opinion.
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I have watched Zigic with interest during the WC.

I honestly don't believe McLeish signed him to be a 15-20 goal-a-season-striker. It has already become evident that McLeish signed him to be more of a presence by playing him alongside a quicker more predatory finisher - Miccoli was the target, possibly Keane will be the next.

People shouldn't get on his back just yet. If we were going into the season (which we may still do) with him and Jerome leading the line then I may be slightly worried.

People need to remember that the Jerome/Benitez were found out eventually. The pace factor caused teams problems until they learned to control them. Zigic + one other will give us a completely different dimension and threat next season - one that the Premiership will need time to adjust to.

If Zigig is partnered with Jerome then he will be in for a shock!!

If Zigic thinks he is going to get a decent pass, a flick on, a one two or anything from Jerome then He is in for one big wakeup call!!

Jerome will benefit immensely from Zigig from flick on's ,good touch ect..

In short Zigig will be good for Jerome, but Jerome wont be any good for Zigig, not in the slightest!!

I just wonder if the big man has any Idea what he has let himself in for!!!

Kro.

Thats way too harsh kev. Granted, jeromes no world beater. But come on.... The stattos didnt just credit cj with 11 goals did they! He scored them ffs. Hes our best striker atm bar none. And when his first touch is ok he can play a bit too. Not alot, but a bit.

Credit and criticism (in equal measure) where its due imo.


You know it makes sense.....
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