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Future Attendances; Blues are not different
Topic Started: Jul 30 2010, 11:09 PM (391 Views)
elvis ok
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Malcom Page
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This coming season I think will see a watershed in football support.

Recognised by the number of AWAY fans, from all clubs.

The prawn sandwich mob will survive for a while I reckon but as the cuts, cuts cuts in jobs starts to take hold a hell of a lot of basic, working class supporters will have to reconsider their priorities.

Lads still living with their parents, not paying mortgages or council tax etc may stand around wondering where their mates have gone. People in work may wonder how shallow their fellow fans are, or how fickle.

Don't blame them if they worked for councils, hospitals,schools, police or if their wage packet came from any regional authority through a sub-contracted firm. They won't be there every other week.

Don't blame them if they are on benefits and see public transport prices go through the roof when Stagecoach and Arriva and all the rest lose their 80% fuel rebates. They won't be there every other week.

Football is going to become the empty wasteland viewed by the employed people..

If they don't know already - It may take this coming season before clubs realise that TV payments are distorting true business values, and the obscene player wages need to be attacked - together.
Every club must agree to stop under the counter player/agent payments and stop foreign bank payments.

Clubs must PAY from what they earn and use TV money to subsidise ticket prices, not player's wages.

I've seen on our forum a lot of concern about ticket sales, ST or away tickets.
The few other surviving club forums are the same - some are in free fall mode about disappearing fans.

It isn't that we - the traditional supporters are losing our love for football, it's that we are becoming a separated society.
One lot can afford £30 tickets - another lot, and they are the vast majority in the country can barely afford or barely justify spending £10 a ticket.

I think the recognition will come in this season like
and I'd hate it for us or other club's fans to blame each other for not keeping faith and going to matches.

It's economics.

To simplify it I think it's this.

Income has to pay Players and Owners.(Shareholders etc)

That produces a nominal entrance price. One that seems to be agreed amongst clubs - and if so is illegal. [ Fixing prices as a cartel.]
We may have an occasional club having kids for a quid etc :D - but it is not sustained is it? It doesn't destroy the "accepted" belief that prices should average around £30 everywhere, always.

A Cap on wages and dividends, based on income, and the balance to subsidise prices. How about that?

That would require recognition by the Premier League and also commitment by 75% of the Premier League for it to pass.

Let's get back to tickets at £10 or less - and player's wages at no more than 4 or 10 times the national average.Whatever multiple like.

If Council Chiefs and Headmasters musn't earn more than 4 times the Prime Minister, lets have players geared to the same ratio as our average wage?
And put the millions that come in from TV into helping the proper and traditional supporter to be able to attend - with his/her kids. The future of every club.

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Anton_87
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Think I have to agree, and the more younger generation able to afford to come and get enthusiastic about football can help produce younger talent and therefore help the club by bringing in new players from the academy which would would have a knock on effect on England team having a half decent youth side etc its one big cycle and something needs to be changed as it's killing the game. I would love to go down the blues but after bills etc I'm left with nothing :-( KRO
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Lewis
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Wow elvis, I totally agree with the issue you raise. Must be a first eh? Well said, and well written. It is obscene.

Additional comment, and hopefully it does add and not detract from the original words.

The empire driven by Rupert Murdoch feeds the alternative revenue stream that allows clubs, the FA, and our Government to a certain extent, to ignore the views and needs of the real, (or should I say traditional) fans of our beloved game.

[quick calc: can't remember how much TV income a club like blues gets for finishing, but in my quick reconning clubs earn at least as much from media coverage as they do from attendances]

It is wrong and needs to be changed.
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stevio11
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Good post mate,I'm one of the many that can not afford a ST at the moment and can't afford evry game so I have to pick the cheaper games to see my club but would I am still a blues fan just like the rest of us, its just that money dictates what I do.
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I think it would prove hard to get evidence that the Premier League clubs actually collude to fix prices, although year after year they are very similar - size by size.

That is, if the Office of Fair Trading and the Monopolies Commision or whatever its called, are not scrapped :D
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SuttonBluenose
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, we have china town watching our games now and that will make up for the lads who are in monetary difficulties.

At the first chance you get and make it a good one, work for yourself if in construction industry.

I have made more money in the first 6months of this year than I did the whole of last year. It's on the up, and so are my charging prices !:) lol

construction industry is the best at the moment and I'm sure most bluenoses are either in this or factory and parts etc, where I can understand the difficulties in jobs, but most of my mates have changed to space4 or things like it, just for 3-4 years, good pay I hear
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the price should be fixed, all grounds the same, all games the same easy job done.

No bunging the price up for villa, united, arsenal etc - no knocking it down for the hulls of this world...we would be no worse off as the extra paid for the hulls would offset the less paid for the villa, united etc

Then the big clubs with big grounds would still be marginally better off but thats cos they fill their ground - and other team who maybe are not huge in terms of star players but fill their ground would be able to compete with the big boys.

While we are at it, cap wages and transdfer fees too...and also the amount allowed to be spent each window
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