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Christian Benitez - We miss him; He Can't Stop Scoring - Merged
Topic Started: Aug 17 2010, 10:02 AM (3,787 Views)
stinger2001
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Prawnman
Oct 3 2010, 12:17 AM
If we merged all the bring Chucho back threads together it would be 600 pages long!

He has gone and won't be coming back (not unless he gets to grips with English anyway).

Plenty of people live in England who can't speak English. Even some English people don't speak English anymore.
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Oct 3 2010, 06:35 AM
samtendorji
Oct 3 2010, 12:30 AM
any chances we get him back?...XD

None, he cannot pass the English language test
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecont...ish-requirement

That's for marriage not football players. If he came here to play football but didn't settle here permanently then there is a way around it.
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Nicko4291
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if you look at the stats of how many point we won when he played and when he didnt, he definatly made a difference. He spent 6 million on zigic when it was 8 million US dollars for chucho, which works out between 5-6. he didnt score many goals but i think hes the missing link that we need
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Give Zig a chance. People laughed at Crouch to start with saying he's no good. He has one of the best international scoring records in the world at moment.
Someone that big is always going to look ungainly. I've seen him create some good chances for others this season. Not his fault they have not been taken. Jerome has missed a few and Bowyer yesterday should have done a lot better than his bicycle effort.
Midfield creativity is the main problem.
Bowyer is not the answer in any way.
4-5-1 is not the answer at home against all but maybe the very top teams. Jerome CANNOT play as a lone striker for many reasons.
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dan_lesser
Oct 3 2010, 03:25 PM
Give Zig a chance. People laughed at Crouch to start with saying he's no good. He has one of the best international scoring records in the world at moment.
Someone that big is always going to look ungainly. I've seen him create some good chances for others this season. Not his fault they have not been taken. Jerome has missed a few and Bowyer yesterday should have done a lot better than his bicycle effort.
Midfield creativity is the main problem.
Bowyer is not the answer in any way.
4-5-1 is not the answer at home against all but maybe the very top teams. Jerome CANNOT play as a lone striker for many reasons.

One of the main reasons Jerome cant play as a lone striker is because everyone plays balls for him down the wings towards the corner flag, then no one supports him. 9 times out of 10 he gets to that ball, but he has no support so the best he can do is try and win a corner or hold it up untill some people finally get near him.
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Oct 3 2010, 05:27 PM
One of the main reasons Jerome cant play as a lone striker is because everyone plays balls for him down the wings towards the corner flag, then no one supports him. 9 times out of 10 he gets to that ball, but he has no support so the best he can do is try and win a corner or hold it up untill some people finally get near him.

That's why Chucho and Jerome played well together.
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Oct 3 2010, 12:31 AM
Agreed.

People on this site are hypocrites.

They say to "give Zigic time", "get off his back", "it took Tevez a season before he came good" etc etc then they point towards Chucho's lack of goals and use that as an example of why he wasn't good enough for Blues to sign him but forget the important role that he played during our unbeaten run.

Zigic up to now has done sweet fa.

polite cough....


Did you ever slagg off Chucho ?


...just asking ?

:LMAO:
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Oct 3 2010, 06:27 PM
V_For_Vendetta
Oct 3 2010, 12:31 AM
Agreed.

People on this site are hypocrites.

They say to "give Zigic time", "get off his back", "it took Tevez a season before he came good" etc etc then they point towards Chucho's lack of goals and use that as an example of why he wasn't good enough for Blues to sign him but forget the important role that he played during our unbeaten run.

Zigic up to now has done sweet fa.

polite cough....


Did you ever slagg off Chucho ?


...just asking ?

:LMAO:

I may have commented on his lack of goals, but I never criticised him as a footballer in general as I always believe that he gave us a different dimension with his pace, skill and unpredictability.

Also, he was here on loan so nothing gained or lost on that front.

Zigic on the other hand has cost the club £6m, a reported £50k a week, when we've had it drummed into us by the board and McLeish how we need to 'sign quality' and get the right players into the club.

Up until now, I am still waiting to see evidence of this where Zigic is concerned.
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Oct 3 2010, 06:58 AM
He made things happen and was just a threat to any defence.

Wasn't a threat to opposing goalkeepers though was he ?

He usually hit the ball straight into their arms :LMAO:




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Oct 3 2010, 06:42 PM
Dvine D-NO
Oct 3 2010, 06:58 AM
He made things happen and was just a threat to any defence.

Wasn't a threat to opposing goalkeepers though was he ?

He usually hit the ball straight into their arms :LMAO:




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At least he could control and run with a ball.

Unlike Zigic.
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Oct 3 2010, 06:42 PM
Dvine D-NO
Oct 3 2010, 06:58 AM
He made things happen and was just a threat to any defence.

Wasn't a threat to opposing goalkeepers though was he ?

He usually hit the ball straight into their arms :LMAO:




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atleast it was a shot to the target..how many did we have against everton...NONE!!!!!
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PartisanBCFC
Oct 3 2010, 06:42 PM
Dvine D-NO
Oct 3 2010, 06:58 AM
He made things happen and was just a threat to any defence.

Wasn't a threat to opposing goalkeepers though was he ?

He usually hit the ball straight into their arms :LMAO:




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he hardly hit the ball into their arms...more passed it so it trickled into their arms
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Oct 3 2010, 05:27 PM
dan_lesser
Oct 3 2010, 03:25 PM
Give Zig a chance. People laughed at Crouch to start with saying he's no good. He has one of the best international scoring records in the world at moment.
Someone that big is always going to look ungainly. I've seen him create some good chances for others this season. Not his fault they have not been taken. Jerome has missed a few and Bowyer yesterday should have done a lot better than his bicycle effort.
Midfield creativity is the main problem.
Bowyer is not the answer in any way.
4-5-1 is not the answer at home against all but maybe the very top teams. Jerome CANNOT play as a lone striker for many reasons.

One of the main reasons Jerome cant play as a lone striker is because everyone plays balls for him down the wings towards the corner flag, then no one supports him. 9 times out of 10 he gets to that ball, but he has no support so the best he can do is try and win a corner or hold it up untill some people finally get near him.

Bang on! :applause:

Getting quite bored of the Jerome criticism when he has no support,

He gives everything! IMO all he lacks is 1st touch
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Not only did Chucho run defenders ragged, it was his running that gave the rest of the team far more openings, and creativity to the team in general. That is why he set up so many goals, too When the midfield knew they had him in front, they knew things would be created. He gave the team a clear edge.

As for the posters saying 'not another thread about an old player', it is still a perfectly valid comment about the mistakes made by the current management.
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Oct 5 2010, 09:54 PM
Not only did Chucho run defenders ragged, it was his running that gave the rest of the team far more openings, and creativity to the team in general. That is why he set up so many goals, too When the midfield knew they had him in front, they knew things would be created. He gave the team a clear edge.

As for the posters saying 'not another thread about an old player', it is still a perfectly valid comment about the mistakes made by the current management.

Anybody that denies were're missing him is either deluded or plain stubborn.

If we had signed someone similar in the transfer window in technique and pace then I could understand but we haven't so how could any logical sane person argue otherwise?

Imagine your kettle is broke but you don't replace it instead you make yourself tea or coffee by boiling a pan of water. No matter what you say to friends or whoever you still need to replace the kettle, no matter how you look at it.

Weird analogy but thats how I see the Benitez scenario.
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Am I missing something, he ain't at the club, will never be at the club again under Eck and can't play for any English club anyway because failed his required test (twice!) to play in this country.

We might as well be talking about why we haven't signed Cantona instead of Zigic! :LMAO:
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Oct 5 2010, 10:46 PM
Am I missing something, he ain't at the club, will never be at the club again under Eck and can't play for any English club anyway because failed his required test.

We might as well be talking about why we haven't signed Cantona instead of Zigic! :LMAO:

Prawnman see the last paragraph of bluesviews post! Sums it up pretty much for me.
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We miss a 4-4-2 formation more than we miss any player.
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Oct 5 2010, 10:51 PM
Prawnman
Oct 5 2010, 10:46 PM
Am I missing something, he ain't at the club, will never be at the club again under Eck and can't play for any English club anyway because failed his required test.

We might as well be talking about why we haven't signed Cantona instead of Zigic!  :LMAO:

Prawnman see the last paragraph of bluesviews post! Sums it up pretty much for me.

It fair enough to say we miss him, fact is we wouldn't of been able to sign him anway! End of story.
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clapton bluenose
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Oct 5 2010, 10:54 PM
We miss a 4-4-2 formation more than we miss any player.

I would normally agree to your point but in view of the fact we lack pace in the team; added to that someone that can run with the ball.

I have moved on but it is a relative point.
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Oct 5 2010, 10:57 PM
clapton bluenose
Oct 5 2010, 10:51 PM
Prawnman
Oct 5 2010, 10:46 PM
Am I missing something, he ain't at the club, will never be at the club again under Eck and can't play for any English club anyway because failed his required test.

We might as well be talking about why we haven't signed Cantona instead of Zigic!  :LMAO:

Prawnman see the last paragraph of bluesviews post! Sums it up pretty much for me.

It fair enough to say we miss him, fact is we wouldn't of been able to sign him anway! End of story.

If the English language was a problem, it didn't stop us taking him on an extended loan did it? :blink:
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Oct 5 2010, 10:41 PM
bluesviews
Oct 5 2010, 09:54 PM
Not only did Chucho run defenders ragged, it was his running that gave the rest of the team far more openings, and creativity to the team in general. That is why he set up so many goals, too When the midfield knew they had him in front, they knew things would be created. He gave the team a clear edge.

As for the posters saying 'not another thread about an old player', it is still a perfectly valid comment about the mistakes made by the current management.

Anybody that denies were're missing him is either deluded or plain stubborn.

If we had signed someone similar in the transfer window in technique and pace then I could understand but we haven't so how could any logical sane person argue otherwise?

Imagine your kettle is broke but you don't replace it instead you make yourself tea or coffee by boiling a pan of water. No matter what you say to friends or whoever you still need to replace the kettle, no matter how you look at it.

Weird analogy but thats how I see the Benitez scenario.

I dont use a kettle I use a pan and water...cleaner
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Oct 5 2010, 11:55 PM
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Oct 5 2010, 10:57 PM
clapton bluenose
Oct 5 2010, 10:51 PM
Prawnman
Oct 5 2010, 10:46 PM
Am I missing something, he ain't at the club, will never be at the club again under Eck and can't play for any English club anyway because failed his required test.

We might as well be talking about why we haven't signed Cantona instead of Zigic!  :LMAO:

Prawnman see the last paragraph of bluesviews post! Sums it up pretty much for me.

It fair enough to say we miss him, fact is we wouldn't of been able to sign him anway! End of story.

If the English language was a problem, it didn't stop us taking him on an extended loan did it? :blink:

I don't think the test was in place when he signed on loan to be honest. Its quite clear I think that he couldn't speak a word of English so wouldn't get a permit until he passed the test.

http://www.offthepost.info/2010/06/chucho-...Off+The+Post%29
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Oct 3 2010, 09:38 AM
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Oct 3 2010, 10:30 AM
He scored again yesterday.

That's 11 goals in 10 games for Santos Laguna.
1 goal in 1 game for Ecuador.

So what standard is the league he is playing in ??

Premier league ?
Championship
League 1
League 2

Spl

Willie it is a good question but does it really matter? Over the years that league has produced some real good players.

I would say in standards it as to be around our championship in terms of quality. If you like similar to the SPL.

Some teams are stronger than the average championship team others probably between that and league 1.

I am pleased for the guy loved him to bits at blues and I welcome any success he gets.

11 goals in 10 games sounds like he has a point to prove to himself.

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OMG shut up about the guy. Why you all crying over a guy who scored 3 goals and his first at home was the last home game of the season! I didnt mind the lad and thought he was something different but sadly was never going to score enough goals to merit 8million quid! Move on!!!!! Says it all not one club (even West Spam) have gone after him!
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