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| The scapegoat Cameron Jerome); Merged Threads (PLEASE DO NOT REPOST) | |
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| salad_dodger | Aug 29 2010, 03:57 PM Post #226 |
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No they wasn't, and there wasn't message boards then either, if there had been it would be the same as it is today, football is all about opinions always will be Willie, players got slated back then and will do in the future at every club not just Blues. |
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| koppite | Aug 29 2010, 03:59 PM Post #227 |
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If you play negative football against ten men, you deserve all you get. :silence: Was that C Js fault as well? |
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| bcfcno1fan | Aug 29 2010, 04:00 PM Post #228 |
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True, but O'Connor would've if he had been fit (in my opinion) And now we have Zigic and Derbyshire, who i consider to be better players, well Derbyshire shows alot more desire. To be honest, im just fed up of his laziness. I think to get the best out of him, he is a 30 mins from the end striker. He might put more effort in then. Im not saying he isn't trying 100%, just that he certainly doesnt show that he does. I want a striker who is going to get straight back onside, not walk back. Win headers against smaller players, be able to score one on ones. Is that too much to ask? One thing though, watch Jeromes miss again tonight, and look at the amount of space the keeper left to his right. Shocking positioning. |
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| ESONEULB | Aug 29 2010, 04:02 PM Post #229 |
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when he makes a mistake or misses a goal like he did today then yes we can have a go, but when other team mates don't give him service and we creat nothing then no you can't just blame him solely its a team game Jerome is part of a team, that is not performing at the minute, well not performing for the whole game. |
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| bcfcno1fan | Aug 29 2010, 04:04 PM Post #230 |
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Oh, there is no debating the fact McLeish got it wrong. We backed off and let them back into the game. However, the Jerome thing is something that has bugged me for a couple of years, fair enough he has scored goals but i just dont think that he gives 100%, especially today. |
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| blondblunose | Aug 29 2010, 04:05 PM Post #231 |
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He didn't though did he? Jerome did. CJ for life!! :bluzz: |
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| pooley | Aug 29 2010, 04:07 PM Post #232 |
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exactly its not a case of being ambitious or not, its not a case of accepting failure, its a case of being proud no matter what others say think or do I remember blues games where they sang "you've never won f all" to us and we replied with a huge chorus of "we've never wonf all" - thats not being self deprecating or defeatist - its about having a sense of humour and good natured attitude to it all - a lot of that was lost after the second prem season when all of a sudden we got ideas above our station. I want us to be as successful as the next person, but I also understand we cannot go out overnight or in one window and buy 5 10mil+ rated players and sign people on 80,000 a week like others want to. There is a danger in running before you can walk and as eck, yeung and others have said we will do things in a step by step methodical way - that will not be of interest to the 'new' type of football fan who sees man city spending x amount of millions on a single player and who see money and spending as a fast track way to the top. Its about building a club for the furture from the infrastructure regarding health and wellbeing of the players to training and training facilities to strengthening the squad for the better of the squad, not just buying big name players for the sake of trying to keep the fans happy. But im rambling now and going off on a mad tangent...I think we were talking about jerome a few paragraphs ago? |
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| pooley | Aug 29 2010, 04:08 PM Post #233 |
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The Icon
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I like you :LOL: |
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| Willie | Aug 29 2010, 04:11 PM Post #234 |
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No we could not He chose to go to Fulham. If Villa could not afford him how could he have been set to join them ? i guess you are getting this info from the numerous transfer reports in the press. From reports Newcastle cannot afford to get Keane on bpard as theysimply do not have the money,and are having to stick with the squad that got them promoted. If Blues were prepared to pay Keane £50-60-70K A week i would be very suprised. O'connor according to some on here is not up to it. Derbyshire has been brought in to replace a 37 yr old who spends most of his time on the bench. Strikers of the calibre we require cost huge amounts and quite simply we do not have that kind of money or the prestige to attract that sort of player. |
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| chudlt | Aug 29 2010, 04:17 PM Post #235 |
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Frank Worthington
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2-0 up ain't negative football tomatoes |
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| blondblunose | Aug 29 2010, 04:17 PM Post #236 |
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That is one of THE most frustrating things about the anti CJ brigade... when he does something right it's 'I could have set that up' 'My nan could have scored from there' 'It could have been anyone that got it over the line' ...it wasn't you or your Nan or anyone else though! It was CJ so when he deserves it give him some credit, or better yet why don't you continue to mock him or sit there in silence at Stans until he makes the slightest mistake and then immediately get on his back? That's the way to make a good confidence player great isn't it!? :bluzz: :Blues: |
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| Ian | Aug 29 2010, 04:21 PM Post #237 |
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Alex Govan
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Am i missing something here, did Jerome not set up two goals today. He has set up 4 goals in 3 goals give him break. It's no wonder he doesn't give his all he probably reads what some people put on here. All my firends Stoke, Wolves baggies infact any supporter i speak to rates him, when i quote his 11 goals and 4 assists last season they are even more impressed. I have to admit i never appreciated Jerome at all but sometimes you just have to admit your wrong. |
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| bcfcno1fan | Aug 29 2010, 04:25 PM Post #238 |
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Im not one of those who would boo Jerome, or want him to fail. Truth be told, i want him to start next week and go and bang in a double hat-trick! :LOL: But i just think he is lazy, and isn't a starter, but has the potential to be a consistent goalscorer in the Prem. But his attitude, he wont. Ill be there at St Andys against L'pool cheering like the rest of you! |
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| blueblood | Aug 29 2010, 04:26 PM Post #239 |
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Johnny Vincent
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Sorry Ian but whatever comments you make about Jerome you are wrong. He's useless, or thats what people on here are happy to argue with you about. He's the current scapegoat, and has taken over from Marcus Bent, Heskey, Julian Gray, Clinton Morrison, to name but a few... :whistle: |
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| chilternblue | Aug 29 2010, 04:27 PM Post #240 |
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Ian Bennett
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He reminds me of Darius Vassell. Lights on no one in. |
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| bcfcno1fan | Aug 29 2010, 04:28 PM Post #241 |
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Do you not think we can get a decent striker for £10m? We were gonna pay £9.5m for N'Zogbia so i dont think 10 is a stretch. I can't name a big list of players, even though I am an avid Football Manager player! :LOL: But surely thats what the scouts are for. |
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| ChrissyBCFC | Aug 29 2010, 04:32 PM Post #242 |
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Olivier Tebily
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Dembele chose fulham over us, nothing to do with money, more about the draw of living in the big smoke. |
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| pooley | Aug 29 2010, 04:33 PM Post #243 |
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you can let cam off after seeing 'notverybrightone' miss an open net for villa from 6 yards out |
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| ChrissyBCFC | Aug 29 2010, 04:34 PM Post #244 |
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Olivier Tebily
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**thumbup But no. some people will say Jerome is the worst player in the history of football. Unbelievable |
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| birmingham200 | Aug 29 2010, 04:35 PM Post #245 |
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if we keep not performing for the season and stay 6th that'll do me |
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| birmingham200 | Aug 29 2010, 04:38 PM Post #246 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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counter argument is we're 6th 3 games unbeaten 2 away could've been 9points with a little luck ( carr header - 2 naff ref decisions) |
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| ESONEULB | Aug 29 2010, 04:44 PM Post #247 |
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Luck plays a huge part in a season and we don't seem to get our share... |
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| ChrissyBCFC | Aug 29 2010, 04:57 PM Post #248 |
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Olivier Tebily
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I know ill get slated for this and its another opportunity for you to have a good, but look at these statistics and have some food for though. Everyones Favourite Striker- Forssell. 2003–2004 → Birmingham City (loan) 32 (17) 2004–2005 → Birmingham City (loan) 4 (0) 2005–2008 Birmingham City 65 (13) Total of 30 goals in 101 apps Everyone on this forums new toy - Derbyshire. 2004–2009 Blackburn Rovers 62 (10) 2004–2005 → Plymouth Argyle (loan) 12 (0) 2005–2006 → Wrexham (loan) 16 (10) 2009 → Olympiacos (loan) 13 (8) 2009– Olympiacos 21 (6) 2010– → Birmingham City (loan) 2 (1) 35 goals in 125 appearance Cameron Jerome. Birmingham 2009 - 10 League 32 (0) 10 FA Cup 4 (0) 0 Birmingham 2008 - 09 League 25 (18) 9 FA Cup 1 (0) 0 League Cup 0 (1) 1 Birmingham 2007 - 08 League 21 (12) 7 FA Cup 0 (1) 0 Birmingham 2006 - 07 League 20 (18) 7 FA Cup 2 (0) 0 League Cup 4 (0) 2 That works out to 34 goals in 107 Starts. (157 total) How can we be knocking someone that has as good a record as people like Forssell and Derbyshire. I dont see how we can complain, weve scored 10 goals in 4 games, something we struggled to do last year, we arent beaten in the first 3 games of the premiership, Still not good enough for some people. Support the team not slate them at every opportunity, Jerome missed a chance on his weaker foot but lets not blame him because we drew, a mixture of the ref and ourselves drew that game. we let bolton back at us in the second half. We should be happy that were doing so well as opposed to slating players who need all the confidence they can get. How about we do something different and actually get behind the team! :Blues: |
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| rainbs | Aug 29 2010, 05:01 PM Post #249 |
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I thought Jerome did a very good job on his own up there today and in previous matches hes by far been our best centre forward in the past few years |
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| jonnyconcrete | Aug 29 2010, 05:01 PM Post #250 |
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He should get life after today's showing...and I hope they don't let him out on Saturday afternoons! |
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