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Referee Kevin Friend Has Cost Us 3 Points; Shocking decision-making
Topic Started: Aug 29 2010, 02:55 PM (1,666 Views)
Elvis
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Aug 30 2010, 03:43 PM
Elvis
Aug 30 2010, 02:11 PM

what are you talking about? Just cos McLeish believes he blew for a free kick doesn't make it so and doest mean people can just make things up to prove a point.

The ref never blew his whistle for a foul, he waved play on therefore the ball was in play, therefore it should have been a penalty.

If you want an apology for you being wrong then I'm sorry...

Or we can wait for you to prove he did blow the whistle... in which case you're not making things up...

Playtime again, is it?
The 4th official told Mcleish the ref had given a foul, he says it quite clearly in his interview. Do you have problems with your ears as well as your eyes?



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They say the 4th official is gonna, erm, help referees this season. Maybe there was a bit of help there. But I believe and I'm told, erm, he blew for a foul on the goalkeeper, so, I've no complaints about that one.


Making things up again I see...
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Are you on drugs, Elvis? Or are you back on the cheeseburgers?
Really, there should be a watershed for these kids.
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I thought referees were allowed to play 'advantage' and then, if they feel no advantage has been gained, call the play back for a free kick. That's what friend did. he saw there had been a foul on the keeper, played advantage, but then pulled it back for a free kick once he'd established that there had been no advantage. Not controversial at all IMO.
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Aug 31 2010, 05:04 AM
I thought referees were allowed to play 'advantage' and then, if they feel no advantage has been gained, call the play back for a free kick. That's what friend did. he saw there had been a foul on the keeper, played advantage, but then pulled it back for a free kick once he'd established that there had been no advantage. Not controversial at all IMO.

yes but playing advantage doesn't mean you can go and lump someone and still expect to get your avantage free kick... surely??
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Aug 31 2010, 04:04 AM
Are you on drugs, Elvis? Or are you back on the cheeseburgers?
Really, there should be a watershed for these kids.

I am not on drugs nor on the cheeseburgers and your petty insults don't interest me at all....

So you have nothing solid to add or anytthing that really happened so you resort to insults? Quality....
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This matter has been cleared up by the link I posted, and another poster has put you right as well.
What part of this don't you understand?
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Aug 31 2010, 11:07 AM
This matter has been cleared up by the link I posted, and another poster has put you right as well.
What part of this don't you understand?

everything you've said
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Aug 31 2010, 10:12 AM
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Aug 31 2010, 11:07 AM
This matter has been cleared up by the link I posted, and another poster has put you right as well.
What part of this don't you understand?

everything you've said

Them stabilisers will be off your bike soon enough, then you can concentrate on your studies, son.
And lay off the drugs & cheeseburgers, they're no good for you.
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blah blah more rubbish and petty insults from you ....

You: The ref had already blown for a foul by Johnson on their keeper, the ball wasn't active.

Me: The ref hadnt blown after the alleged foul on their keeper...

You: McLeish had said that the 4th official had told him the ref had blown the whistle

Me: McLeish didn't say that as per the interview if you actually listen to it you will hear clearly

McLeish: They say the 4th official is gonna, erm, help referees this season. Maybe there was
a bit of help there. But I believe and I'm told, erm, he blew for a foul on the goalkeeper, so,
I've no complaints about that one.

Where in that sentance did he say I was told by the 4th official that the ref had blown for the foul by RJ?
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Elvis, stop being a buffoon.
You have had your answer as to why we didn't get a penalty. I found out listening to McLeish's interview that a foul had been given, you've listened to it since you've quoted what he said, what aren't you getting?

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he didnt blow for the foul....he only blew after the slap.

RJ was booked for dissent after several Bolton players harranged the ref and tried to stir things up whilst the sending off was happening.

Try looking at it from a Blues fans view.....how many decisions went in our favour after the sending off...if you have recorded the game then count them up and post what you find.The referee was affected by his own decision and the actions of Bolton and the crowd...

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Aug 30 2010, 04:58 PM
Seems Kevin Friend has not got many Mates, there is a Facebook Hate page set up just for him


HERE

wasn't there controversy in the Palace villa match, something to do with the end
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Aug 31 2010, 10:31 AM
he didnt blow for the foul....he only blew after the slap.

RJ was booked for dissent after several Bolton players harranged the ref and tried to stir things up whilst the sending off was happening.

Try looking at it from a Blues fans view.....how many decisions went in our favour after the sending off...if you have recorded the game then count them up and post what you find.The referee was affected by his own decision and the actions of Bolton and the crowd...

He played advantage didn't he, for the foul? Then blew after the slap to send him off, which I imagine would be classed as an off the ball incident.
Irrespective, (according to McLeish) the ref acknowldeged the infringement which is why it was no pen to us.

The ref's performance after that was irrelevant. He made two very harsh calls against us, yes, but it should never have come to that in my opinion. If you want to blame the ref for the fact we couldn't beat a team with 10 men after being 2-0 up then that's up to you.
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Aug 31 2010, 11:31 AM
Elvis, stop being a buffoon.
You have had your answer as to why we didn't get a penalty. I found out listening to McLeish's interview that a foul had been given, you've listened to it since you've quoted what he said, what aren't you getting?

how am I being a bufffoon? I am simple stating facts - you are making things up..

I questioned it and you started with the insults and making a mountain out of a molehill...

I just wish people would stick to facts rather than making things up as they go along...

BTW
I hear Kaka and Messi have signed for Blues... McLeish on SSN this very minute... please follow this link where it states clearly this info...

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Aug 31 2010, 10:37 AM
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he didnt blow for the foul....he only blew after the slap.

RJ was booked for dissent after several Bolton players harranged the ref and tried to stir things up whilst the sending off was happening.

Try looking at it from a Blues fans view.....how many decisions went in our favour after the sending off...if you have recorded the game then count them up and post what you find.The referee was affected by his own decision and the actions of Bolton and the crowd...

He played advantage didn't he, for the foul? Then blew after the slap to send him off, which I imagine would be classed as an off the ball incident.
Irrespective, (according to McLeish) the ref acknowldeged the infringement which is why it was no pen to us.

The ref's performance after that was irrelevant. He made two very harsh calls against us, yes, but it should never have come to that in my opinion. If you want to blame the ref for the fact we couldn't beat a team with 10 men after being 2-0 up then that's up to you.

How can a ref's performance be irrelevant ffs
and yes i do beleive he had an influence in the way the game played out although maybe not the result..

That said we should still have won the game if Jerome could finish
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Aug 31 2010, 10:40 AM

how am I being a bufffoon? I am simple stating facts - you are making things up..


I made up the fact that the ref had decided there was an infringement on their goalkeeper by Roger Johnson before said goalie slapped our centre half across the chops, thus nullifying claims for a Blues penalty?

Do you smoke the stuff or inject it?
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Aug 31 2010, 10:47 AM

How can a ref's performance be irrelevant ffs
and yes i do beleive he had an influence in the way the game played out although maybe not the result..

That said we should still have won the game if Jerome could finish

Irrelevant with regards to the decision not to award us a penalty at the time.
The fact he had a poor game after that is neither here nor there, happens all the time.
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Aug 29 2010, 11:34 PM

The ref had already blown for a foul by Johnson on their keeper, the ball wasn't active.

no, you made this up.... as stated twice previously...

are you unable to discuss matters without your less than humourous remarks - do you actually know what a buffoon is?
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Aug 30 2010, 02:14 PM
Here's McLeish's interview on sky sports after the game. fast forward to 1:45 when he's asked about their keeper's red card/possible pen.
Listen to his answer, then type a full apology.

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26...6346522,00.html

and then you made up that McLeish had said that the 4th official had told him the ref had blown for a foul of their keeper.... when in fact he hadn't said that at all
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Aug 31 2010, 10:56 AM
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Aug 29 2010, 11:34 PM

The ref had already blown for a foul by Johnson on their keeper, the ball wasn't active.

no, you made this up.... as stated twice previously...

are you unable to discuss matters without your less than humourous remarks - do you actually know what a buffoon is?

So the fact I used the term 'blown for a foul' was a total misinterpretation of the facts? OK, acknowledged the foul & played advantage, I was going off what Mcleish said in his interview.

I know what a buffoon is, do you? You can't even spell it.
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How can a ref's performance be irrelevant ffs
and yes i do beleive he had an influence in the way the game played out although maybe not the result..

That said we should still have won the game if Jerome could finish

Irrelevant with regards to the decision not to award us a penalty at the time.
The fact he had a poor game after that is neither here nor there, happens all the time.

The topic title isnt only about the sending off/penalty decision Bn...i made my comments based on his overall display..he was affected by his own decisions and played out the rest of the game giving us almost nothing..This shifted the momentum to Bolton adn it was difficult to regain the impetus that we had earlier in the game.

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Aug 31 2010, 11:01 AM

The topic title isnt only about the sending off/penalty decision Bn...i made my comments based on his overall display..he was affected by his own decisions and played out the rest of the game giving us almost nothing..This shifted the momentum to Bolton adn it was difficult to regain the impetus that we had earlier in the game.

I originally got involved in this thread to explain why we weren't given a penalty when Jaaskelainen got sent off, that's all.
As for the ref, I have already said he made two poor decisions against us resulting in 2 goals for them. The free kick decision was scandalous, but there was no excuse for Foster's positioning for the free kick, he looked almost surprised Blake was contemplating a shot.

All I'm saying is that no matter how bad the ref was, that game should have been put to bed long before the free kick. Yet watching the game, it was difficult to tell which team were playing with a man down.
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Aug 31 2010, 12:01 PM
So the fact I used the term 'blown for a foul' was a total misinterpretation of the facts? OK, acknowledged the foul & played advantage, I was going off what Mcleish said in his interview.

I know what a buffoon is, do you? You can't even spell it.

Yes it was - he hadn't blown for a foul!!!!

You were going off what McLeish had said in the interview? So you didn't actually hear the ref blow or see a motion to blow the whistle? So you made it up? You are admitting you got it wrong which you could have done in the first place so none of this needed to be said...

Oh and I'm sorry - I accidentally added an extra "f"; please forgive me... Are you the typo police?

How about trying to type a comment without throwing insults... go on try it.... it's easy..
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McLeish said given a foul (or something like that, cannot remember the exact terminology) and I said blown for a foul. Not even in the same ball park, is it?
It rendered the whole handbags thing an off the ball incident, which is the point I was making.

Is that a good enough explanation for you, Elvis, or would you like it on etch-a-sketch?


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All I'm saying is that no matter how bad the ref was, that game should have been put to bed long before the free kick. Yet watching the game, it was difficult to tell which team were playing with a man down.

i agree we should have had the game sewn up..but with the momentum swinging back in their favour due to the stop start way the game played out it was difficult to regain the impetus we had.Up to the sending off there was only 1 team in it and had we got the Penalty for Jerome being impeded then it would have been game over even before the sending off.They took off their most ineffective player anyway BNA if they taken off CY lee instead then it would have been game over..
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