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| Mcleish Bashing...; or just saying what we saw? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 30 2010, 03:56 PM (598 Views) | |
| Penguin Blue | Aug 30 2010, 03:56 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-s...97319-27163085/ i've posted this because for a while now there's been a general trend that if you dare question the manager's decisions then you must be a Viler, or you just want him out or you need to shut up get behind the team. not many posters think that what you're saying might actually be either constructive and passionate about the club we all support or might actually be a true reflection of what we saw... for those who can't get the link: HONEST Alex McLeish admitted he would analyse his decision to change Birmingham City's formation with a second-half substitute at 2-0 to the good against Bolton Wanderers. Blues had started 4-5-1, and were in control of the match but began to lose a ‘foothold’ as ten-man Bolton Wanderers made it scrappy. McLeish brought on Matt Derbyshire to partner Cameron Jerome in the 67th minute – before Bolton made it 2-1 via a Kevin Davies penalty. “Just before we made the substitution we did begin to keep the ball quite well and I wondered whether I should make it,” said the manager. “I felt up until then we didn’t really get a foothold in the second-half. “To be fair to Bolton, they made the game stop-start and disrupted our flow. I just felt we had to make the change to have more thrust up front. “The extra man would hopefully pay dividends and unfortunately two set-pieces were the things that undid us, and the decision at those set-pieces by the referee.” “I think we were allowing them to play in between us in little areas,” McLeish added. “That was why I decided to flatten it out a little bit and play 4-4-2. “The game was just so disrupted that we couldn’t get Derbyshire into the game. So maybe it wasn’t a great decision by me, I need to have a look at it again and see if the tactical switch was wrong.” and can i just say what an honest appraisal of the game by McLeish giving us an insight into his thinking, not many managers will do that publicly :applause: |
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| Lucky | Aug 30 2010, 04:01 PM Post #2 |
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Seen this earlier, So maybe some of us who others may see as moaners are actually saying the same thing as our manager, Funny that,but I guess it will get twisted around to suit their argument. |
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| Blooboy | Aug 30 2010, 04:39 PM Post #3 |
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must admit it's refreshing but not surprising, Alex is one helluva manager. Ok he made a mistake, i guess we all would on occassion, all he needs to do is remind himself its Blues he's managing :D :LOL: |
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| Deleted User | Aug 30 2010, 04:50 PM Post #4 |
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There's not much else he could say really, was there? He did get it wrong. Man enough to admit it as well. |
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| Raters | Aug 30 2010, 04:52 PM Post #5 |
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I wonder if the ref is man enough.... |
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| darrenbjohn | Aug 30 2010, 04:59 PM Post #6 |
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There is a differenc ebetween constructive criticism and some of the tripe that gets served up on here. Eck constantly goes up in my estimation as a man though. Standing up to Nzog and willing to admit to mistakes. What a classy guy. |
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| Joe | Aug 30 2010, 05:01 PM Post #7 |
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Not sure how McLeish can be blamed for us drawing. Had he substituted the referee it might have worked yes......you can legislate for terrible decisions Kevin Friend made no matter what the formation. McLeish changed to 4-4-2 because he wanted us to win the game get more ball and push them back. That it didn't work out was hardly down to that solely. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 30 2010, 05:05 PM Post #8 |
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There really is no answer to that one. |
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| Deleted User | Aug 30 2010, 05:13 PM Post #9 |
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Probably not. I like McLeish as a person, I really do. I think he's an absolute gentleman whose conduct is an example to follow, as is Roy Hodgson's. My problem with him is purely professional. I know they were 2 bad refereeing decisions, but after that match I realised just how bad we were. We never looked like we had the extra man, and they were the better side. We couldn't keep hold of the ball & just lumped it all the time. It was depressing stuff blowing the lead. Sunderland played better than us first 15 minutes of the 2nd half up there, again down a man, until we eventually got our @ rses in gear when we went 2-0 down. Sound familiar? Something's not right on the pitch, is it? |
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| Blue Raphealite | Aug 30 2010, 05:17 PM Post #10 |
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The subs didn't influence Johnson making a silly mistake - he'd been on from the start **thumbup The subs didn't make the ref give the free kick that Blake scored from. My only criticism would be that the subs didn't reduce the pressure on us. So what if we'd subbed with defenders rather than like for like ? That would open another kettle of fish for the knockers of McLeish wouldn't it ? Supporting McLeish, you cannot win with the anti-blues brigade. And I'm not saying that they're claret-tinged, just that I often wonder WHEN ? WHY ? HOW ? they support blues. It really confuses me :D |
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| thehod | Aug 30 2010, 05:17 PM Post #11 |
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I've often said that if Alex has a problem, it comes in his subs. He has a tendancy to either delay too long, or make some poor decisions in who he changes and in what way. |
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| Blue Raphealite | Aug 30 2010, 05:19 PM Post #12 |
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Often said? Could you give us a few links mate ? :LMAO: |
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| Penguin Blue | Aug 30 2010, 05:36 PM Post #13 |
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i can see why you're confused... after reading your post it becomes obvious that you have the ability to confuse yourself very easily. just a few questions/points for you; 1. who is this 'anti-Blues brigade' you speak of? 2. what was Johnson's 'silly mistake'? 3. the subs would have struggled to reduce the pressure on us seeing as we went from a 5-man midfield to a 4-man midfield at a time we were controlling the game. which was the reason for the OP in the first place! good luck with your answers oh confused one. |
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| Blooboy | Aug 30 2010, 05:40 PM Post #14 |
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good point, because Kevin Friend shrivvelled under what Coyle said to him |
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| Blue Raphealite | Aug 30 2010, 06:01 PM Post #15 |
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How to Read 101 I am confused about the blues-bashers,(and their allegience such as it is) - not about the substitutions. Gordon Bennet but it's hard when English isn't people's first language. :D |
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| Penguin Blue | Aug 30 2010, 06:04 PM Post #16 |
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have read a few of your posts this afternoon and it seems that you're in need of learning a few manners... so, instead of trying to sound clever in front of your pc why not answer the questions i put to you...? please. |
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| koppite | Aug 30 2010, 06:30 PM Post #17 |
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Just because we have a different opinion than you ralph, why are we anti Blues? :silence: I do not understand where you are coming from. People support our club for a variety of reasons and why they should have to justify their loyalty of the Blues to the gestapo, such as yourself, beggars belief. Managers come, managers go, but IMO not seeing eye to eye with the managers tactics is par for the course. What would you say to fans who slag off individual players? Are they followers of the baby pink and blue side as well? |
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| Penguin Blue | Aug 30 2010, 06:38 PM Post #18 |
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i wouldn't bother with your questions koppite, it seems to scare him off... seems he only wants to leave sarky comments to fellow supporters then do one! :banghead: |
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| The_Bear | Aug 30 2010, 07:07 PM Post #19 |
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I wonder if he would have said the same if the ref had not have given the pen and free kick? |
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| thehod | Aug 30 2010, 07:15 PM Post #20 |
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Nope, because I've said it to mates at the game, work colleagues, family. You know, people in real life, away from the internet. And I've been saying it for some time now, hence "often said." Not sure why my post amused you so much. As it is, I think the only real failing, in a damn good manager. |
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| Woodbine | Aug 30 2010, 07:19 PM Post #21 |
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Everyone can be excused the odd mistake. But not every week, surely? |
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| RegularJohn | Aug 30 2010, 08:02 PM Post #22 |
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every week?? :banghead: this is exactly the kind of comment that gets peoples backs up. it would be very boring on here if we all had the same opinion. but comments like that dont have any place in a discussion. whether you like him or not i cant see how you can type something so ridiculous. |
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| Woodbine | Aug 30 2010, 08:32 PM Post #23 |
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One word..... Fahey. We have an abundance of midfielders yet AM continues to play or bench him. In my book, that's a mistake. |
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| antoinette | Aug 30 2010, 08:45 PM Post #24 |
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Blues have not got the quality on the bench to kill off a game by putting the opposition under more pressure, as seen by the Bolton game Derbyshire and Fahey are squad filler players. Hopefully the loan players tomorrow will improve the squad. :Blues: :Blues: |
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| koppite | Aug 30 2010, 09:11 PM Post #25 |
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Why did Alex pay £6 million quid for Zigic if he does not think he is good enough to get into the team????? |
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