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Don't Call Yourselves Blues Fans...; you're a disgrace!
Topic Started: Oct 27 2010, 08:15 AM (3,582 Views)
Jolly Jack
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The_Bear
Oct 27 2010, 08:44 AM
dr.nick
Oct 27 2010, 08:25 AM
Bring back national  service!!

Oh wait you can't beat disapline and respect into them anymore.

My old man did national service and this is what he used to say when ever anyone said bring it back "Why would you want to teach people like that how to use fire arms"?

Excellent original post.

National Service? You must be joking, why should our modern, professional, mobile armed forces be saddled with the pasty wasters that allegedly pass for most young people these days? We, sadly, are having trouble keeping the motivated people we already have. Some people just deserve to be nothing but civilians. (And, yes, I'll be a civvy myself in 5 years - not looking forward to it).
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Oct 27 2010, 02:24 PM
B25 YEWTREE LOYAL
Oct 27 2010, 01:53 PM
seeing as how you have chosen to highlight my comment perhaps you could enlighten me on your view of life growing up in inner city Birmingham

I know what i have seen and can describe as normal and i stand by what i have said..if the worst you see or experience in life is watching some youth perform then count your blessings..

To question someone's mentality or behaviour without recourse would require an understanding of the individual in the first place which of course you do not have..as with many many posters on here unless you have walked in someone else's shoes then your opinion should always be kept in perspective..

So, you're saying that because someone is brought up in an inner city environment it gives them an excuse to behave like this. That is a real sleight on people who do come from inner city areas, many who would never get involved in things like this.

Stop blaming the environment and start blaming the people involved.

Nobody should have to suffer the mindless (Yes Mindless!) behaviour of people whose main aim seems to be to cause as much aggro as possible.

You say you regard their behaviour as 'normal', well if that is normality there is no hope for us.

I am fed up of people trying to justify their behaviour. There is no justification.

instead of yet another self righteous rant why dont you read the post properly Blacksmith...

I havent used any excuse..you highlighted my comment and i asked if you could relate to us your view of life growing up in Inner City birmingham..what have you seen or have you like many experienced some pink fluffy world just outside of Utopia

I have first hand experience of many things and as i said if the antics outside St Andrews are the worst thing that anyone else ever witnesses then they are very fortunate..

I have followed BCFC and England abroad and have done so knowing full well what may or may not occur...

Condone,Support,Encourage or the total opposites of those would be many peoples standpoint on this...the Law says its wrong and deals with it disproportionately to many many more distasteful crimes...
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Jolly Jack
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Oct 27 2010, 02:37 PM
was surprised to see the French police has recently also removed their 5'3" minimum height. But I suppose their 2ft long truncheons make a difference.

...not to mention the armpit hair and the strong smell of garlic. French plod won't fight anything German of course, just hand over a list of their neighbours....
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i was also reduced to tears yesterday as i was sat next to the brentford fans and one of them made a rude gesture towards me, i couldn't get to sleep last night as a result of this and dont think i will ever be able to step foot in a football ground ever again, i had honestly never seen a gesture given with such venom needless to say i have written a full letter to brentford FC and will be in contact with west midlands police shortly when i feel ready to speak about the incident, this has really knocked me for six.
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Tell us more 06. All clubs have a few wrong uns so don't let it put you off, its a case of small club having a night out at a big one.
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Oct 27 2010, 04:23 PM
Tell us more 06. All clubs have a few wrong uns so don't let it put you off, its a case of small club having a night out at a big one.

I have a feeling that 06 may be being a touch flippant.
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wardendblue
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well from what i heard a few days before the game there was chelsea coming up with brentford so maybe thats why the old bill was out in force
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i have to say i seen the young lads hanging around trying to cause truble against blackpool to, im 21 yrs old i would never even imagin trying to cause fights at a football match or enywhere else for that matter, i think it is totaly n utterly pointless , the message i seen about bringing national service back i totaly agree with even if i have to be 1 that does it to i will. it would be best for this country n help to diciplin those that go just to cause trouble as long as there are no exceptions every person should have to do the national service. :bluzz:
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Those cockney bastids. :copno:

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Edit. Yes, re-instute the military service. As Britain is facing cuts in all sections of the military the service would serve to plug these holes. Women could also do a public service as nurses or caring for the elderly etc.

Just throwing ideas, as a non-Brit. :)
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Jeez the way this thread has gone on you would think there was a major riot down there last night..

It was probally just some young nose's running so they didnt miss the last bus home ;)


Kro.
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:applause: longshot8052

And I think the vast majority of fans, young and old would behave in exactly the same way. **thumbup


As for your comments, YewTree, I reiterate that you are belittling the people who come from the inner cities. I am sure that many who cause trouble aren't from the inner cities, although I concede that many may be.

longshot8052, shows it is perfectly possible for people to walk away from trouble and not get involved, yet you seem to think that just because somebody comes from an inner city area they are incapable of doing so.

As I said, don't try and excuse the inexcusable.
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Oct 27 2010, 09:19 AM
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Oct 27 2010, 08:15 AM
once again i left St Andrews last night and walked to my car.

win, lose or draw i absolutely love going to watch the Blues with my son, it's just a fantastic day/night out.

yet after every game i see the same thing, gangs of Blues fans - i'd say late teens, early 20's - hanging around by the burger vans (opp the old bus station) just waiting to case trouble with opposition supporters.

they were out in force again last night, scarves over their faces as if they were freedom fighters with one eye on the nearby police, some shouting abusive comments and men and women doing their job to protect, and the other eye waiting to bait the Brentford supporters.

well let me tell you - and i hope some are reading this, or at least having it read to them, you're just loutish, childish idiots the lot of you and don't ever call yourselves Blues fans because i don't recognise you and neither should other decent supporters.

and if you do post on here, do me a favour and don't bother any more because your opinion's not worth it if you think that trying to cause trouble - trouble i might add where innocent bystanders get hurt and injured - is a good night out then you disgust me!

of course you're only any good in your groups and gangs - i tell you what, if you want to fight why don't you sign up and become real men and actually put your lives on the line instead of hiding behind each other's bravado!

some moan about, what you call the 'Vilers' on here with their differing opinions but it's this lot we should be getting rid of - these people are a disgrace to this club!

But they ARE Blues fans.

They will eventually grow out of looking for trouble/having a fight whilst following the Blues, and move on raising families ect..

In other words they will eventually grow up..

Get over it ffs :banghead:

kro

Yeh most of them will have plenty of kids and live the rest of their lives on benifits, they are weak kids who will grow into weak adults.
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Hate to say it but it's one of the reasons for dwindling gates. When the family stand used to be situated in the Kop adjacent to the away fans hundres of scallie chavs used to buy up the cheap tickets just so they could sit there mouthing off and getting involved with the away fans.

Have you not noticed that since the family stand moved, that end of the stand is now always empty?
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Bumble
Oct 27 2010, 05:03 PM
bluenosekev
Oct 27 2010, 09:19 AM
PenguinBlue
Oct 27 2010, 08:15 AM
once again i left St Andrews last night and walked to my car.

win, lose or draw i absolutely love going to watch the Blues with my son, it's just a fantastic day/night out.

yet after every game i see the same thing, gangs of Blues fans - i'd say late teens, early 20's - hanging around by the burger vans (opp the old bus station) just waiting to case trouble with opposition supporters.

they were out in force again last night, scarves over their faces as if they were freedom fighters with one eye on the nearby police, some shouting abusive comments and men and women doing their job to protect, and the other eye waiting to bait the Brentford supporters.

well let me tell you - and i hope some are reading this, or at least having it read to them, you're just loutish, childish idiots the lot of you and don't ever call yourselves Blues fans because i don't recognise you and neither should other decent supporters.

and if you do post on here, do me a favour and don't bother any more because your opinion's not worth it if you think that trying to cause trouble - trouble i might add where innocent bystanders get hurt and injured - is a good night out then you disgust me!

of course you're only any good in your groups and gangs - i tell you what, if you want to fight why don't you sign up and become real men and actually put your lives on the line instead of hiding behind each other's bravado!

some moan about, what you call the 'Vilers' on here with their differing opinions but it's this lot we should be getting rid of - these people are a disgrace to this club!

But they ARE Blues fans.

They will eventually grow out of looking for trouble/having a fight whilst following the Blues, and move on raising families ect..

In other words they will eventually grow up..

Get over it ffs :banghead:

kro

Yeh most of them will have plenty of kids and live the rest of their lives on benifits, they are weak kids who will grow into weak adults.

Wild accusation there don't you think, everyone I new who did this in the eighties now have good jobs and have left it all behind ,

I was never into footy violence but when I was a kid I was known for a good punch up with those that wanted it, now a respectable purson with a family lovely home.
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Im gonna put it out there, I am not condoning behaviour of any sort, but I do know for sure, that the reputation that this club holds when it comes to fighting before and after games, has probably kept many people safe when visiting away games.

Its okay for people to outright condemn the people who go to games and fight or whatever, but for the original poster, if you was cornered outside an away stadium, take Villa Park for instance, and you and your son was cornered by a group of Villa lads looking to hurt someone, would you still want every one of those Bluenose 'yobs' banged up then? Cause I can guarantee you would quite openly welcome those lads in that situation to help you out mate.

Not saying its right for these lads to go and fight, im not saying its wrong, but what I am saying, is that every club has a section of fans (And yes they are fans, no matter how much you try and tell yourself, or other people that they dont belong to the Bluenose family) that organise fights before or after a game, but more-so than not, you will only get caught up in a fight if you go looking for one.

I cant envisage a situation where you and your son would ever be picked out for trouble if you was just keeping your head down and going to your car.. But i know there are some people about that would still maybe start something.. But I think some people should try and keep things in perspective.. Whilst there are these people who would attack you for wearing a Blues scarf, no matter what your motives were, I dont think these guys should be put into the same box as a group of lads by a burger van, shouting abit of abuse at the away fans.
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Oct 27 2010, 05:49 PM
Im gonna put it out there, I am not condoning behaviour of any sort, but I do know for sure, that the reputation that this club holds when it comes to fighting before and after games, has probably kept many people safe when visiting away games.

Its okay for people to outright condemn the people who go to games and fight or whatever, but for the original poster, if you was cornered outside an away stadium, take Villa Park for instance, and you and your son was cornered by a group of Villa lads looking to hurt someone, would you still want every one of those Bluenose 'yobs' banged up then? Cause I can guarantee you would quite openly welcome those lads in that situation to help you out mate.

Not saying its right for these lads to go and fight, im not saying its wrong, but what I am saying, is that every club has a section of fans (And yes they are fans, no matter how much you try and tell yourself, or other people that they dont belong to the Bluenose family) that organise fights before or after a game, but more-so than not, you will only get caught up in a fight if you go looking for one.

I cant envisage a situation where you and your son would ever be picked out for trouble if you was just keeping your head down and going to your car.. But i know there are some people about that would still maybe start something.. But I think some people should try and keep things in perspective.. Whilst there are these people who would attack you for wearing a Blues scarf, no matter what your motives were, I dont think these guys should be put into the same box as a group of lads by a burger van, shouting abit of abuse at the away fans.

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if you was cornered outside an away stadium, take Villa Park for instance, and you and your son was cornered by a group of Villa lads looking to hurt someone, would you still want every one of those Bluenose 'yobs' banged up then? Cause I can guarantee you would quite openly welcome those lads in that situation to help you out mate.


Wholly agree Lukey. But to be fair, if I saw 1 villa fan with his son being cornered by a group of Blues fans I'd step in and help them out cuz I'm a decent human being first, Bluenose second. **thumbup
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Oct 27 2010, 06:05 PM
Lukey_H
Oct 27 2010, 05:49 PM
Im gonna put it out there, I am not condoning behaviour of any sort, but I do know for sure, that the reputation that this club holds when it comes to fighting before and after games, has probably kept many people safe when visiting away games.

Its okay for people to outright condemn the people who go to games and fight or whatever, but for the original poster, if you was cornered outside an away stadium, take Villa Park for instance, and you and your son was cornered by a group of Villa lads looking to hurt someone, would you still want every one of those Bluenose 'yobs' banged up then? Cause I can guarantee you would quite openly welcome those lads in that situation to help you out mate.

Not saying its right for these lads to go and fight, im not saying its wrong, but what I am saying, is that every club has a section of fans (And yes they are fans, no matter how much you try and tell yourself, or other people that they dont belong to the Bluenose family) that organise fights before or after a game, but more-so than not, you will only get caught up in a fight if you go looking for one.

I cant envisage a situation where you and your son would ever be picked out for trouble if you was just keeping your head down and going to your car.. But i know there are some people about that would still maybe start something.. But I think some people should try and keep things in perspective.. Whilst there are these people who would attack you for wearing a Blues scarf, no matter what your motives were, I dont think these guys should be put into the same box as a group of lads by a burger van, shouting abit of abuse at the away fans.

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if you was cornered outside an away stadium, take Villa Park for instance, and you and your son was cornered by a group of Villa lads looking to hurt someone, would you still want every one of those Bluenose 'yobs' banged up then? Cause I can guarantee you would quite openly welcome those lads in that situation to help you out mate.


Wholly agree Lukey. But to be fair, if I saw 1 villa fan with his son being cornered by a group of Blues fans I'd step in and help them out cuz I'm a decent human being first, Bluenose second. **thumbup

Spot on mate, as would I... Totally, no matter how many there were because I wouldnt be able to live with myself if I stood and watched someone get badly hurt.

But my point is, lets not banish a few teenagers and send them into exile because they stood by a burger van giving some stick to a bunch of away fans.

There are rapists, murderers, paedophiles, thieves, terrorists, all sorts of wrong-doers in the world, and people are trying to outcast some teenage kids for shouting abit of abuse at a rival section of fans?

I just think people should keep things in perspective
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Oct 27 2010, 06:14 PM
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Oct 27 2010, 06:05 PM
Lukey_H
Oct 27 2010, 05:49 PM
Im gonna put it out there, I am not condoning behaviour of any sort, but I do know for sure, that the reputation that this club holds when it comes to fighting before and after games, has probably kept many people safe when visiting away games.

Its okay for people to outright condemn the people who go to games and fight or whatever, but for the original poster, if you was cornered outside an away stadium, take Villa Park for instance, and you and your son was cornered by a group of Villa lads looking to hurt someone, would you still want every one of those Bluenose 'yobs' banged up then? Cause I can guarantee you would quite openly welcome those lads in that situation to help you out mate.

Not saying its right for these lads to go and fight, im not saying its wrong, but what I am saying, is that every club has a section of fans (And yes they are fans, no matter how much you try and tell yourself, or other people that they dont belong to the Bluenose family) that organise fights before or after a game, but more-so than not, you will only get caught up in a fight if you go looking for one.

I cant envisage a situation where you and your son would ever be picked out for trouble if you was just keeping your head down and going to your car.. But i know there are some people about that would still maybe start something.. But I think some people should try and keep things in perspective.. Whilst there are these people who would attack you for wearing a Blues scarf, no matter what your motives were, I dont think these guys should be put into the same box as a group of lads by a burger van, shouting abit of abuse at the away fans.

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if you was cornered outside an away stadium, take Villa Park for instance, and you and your son was cornered by a group of Villa lads looking to hurt someone, would you still want every one of those Bluenose 'yobs' banged up then? Cause I can guarantee you would quite openly welcome those lads in that situation to help you out mate.


Wholly agree Lukey. But to be fair, if I saw 1 villa fan with his son being cornered by a group of Blues fans I'd step in and help them out cuz I'm a decent human being first, Bluenose second. **thumbup

Spot on mate, as would I... Totally, no matter how many there were because I wouldnt be able to live with myself if I stood and watched someone get badly hurt.

But my point is, lets not banish a few teenagers and send them into exile because they stood by a burger van giving some stick to a bunch of away fans.

There are rapists, murderers, paedophiles, thieves, terrorists, all sorts of wrong-doers in the world, and people are trying to outcast some teenage kids for shouting abit of abuse at a rival section of fans?

I just think people should keep things in perspective

Yep exactly.

Football is a working class sport. Everyone goes there for one reason or another (vent aggresion after a week of work?! have a laugh with mates and drink a few ales?) and a couple of rude words shouted to away fans is part of it IMO (aslong as they don't overstep the mark).

I don't do it, nor condone it, but I don't complain when I hear/see it.

Some people on here should go to the theatre instead (or the rugby)...
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Oct 27 2010, 06:34 PM
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Oct 27 2010, 06:14 PM
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Oct 27 2010, 06:05 PM
Lukey_H
Oct 27 2010, 05:49 PM
Im gonna put it out there, I am not condoning behaviour of any sort, but I do know for sure, that the reputation that this club holds when it comes to fighting before and after games, has probably kept many people safe when visiting away games.

Its okay for people to outright condemn the people who go to games and fight or whatever, but for the original poster, if you was cornered outside an away stadium, take Villa Park for instance, and you and your son was cornered by a group of Villa lads looking to hurt someone, would you still want every one of those Bluenose 'yobs' banged up then? Cause I can guarantee you would quite openly welcome those lads in that situation to help you out mate.

Not saying its right for these lads to go and fight, im not saying its wrong, but what I am saying, is that every club has a section of fans (And yes they are fans, no matter how much you try and tell yourself, or other people that they dont belong to the Bluenose family) that organise fights before or after a game, but more-so than not, you will only get caught up in a fight if you go looking for one.

I cant envisage a situation where you and your son would ever be picked out for trouble if you was just keeping your head down and going to your car.. But i know there are some people about that would still maybe start something.. But I think some people should try and keep things in perspective.. Whilst there are these people who would attack you for wearing a Blues scarf, no matter what your motives were, I dont think these guys should be put into the same box as a group of lads by a burger van, shouting abit of abuse at the away fans.

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if you was cornered outside an away stadium, take Villa Park for instance, and you and your son was cornered by a group of Villa lads looking to hurt someone, would you still want every one of those Bluenose 'yobs' banged up then? Cause I can guarantee you would quite openly welcome those lads in that situation to help you out mate.


Wholly agree Lukey. But to be fair, if I saw 1 villa fan with his son being cornered by a group of Blues fans I'd step in and help them out cuz I'm a decent human being first, Bluenose second. **thumbup

Spot on mate, as would I... Totally, no matter how many there were because I wouldnt be able to live with myself if I stood and watched someone get badly hurt.

But my point is, lets not banish a few teenagers and send them into exile because they stood by a burger van giving some stick to a bunch of away fans.

There are rapists, murderers, paedophiles, thieves, terrorists, all sorts of wrong-doers in the world, and people are trying to outcast some teenage kids for shouting abit of abuse at a rival section of fans?

I just think people should keep things in perspective

Yep exactly.

Football is a working class sport. Everyone goes there for one reason or another (vent aggresion after a week of work?! have a laugh with mates and drink a few ales?) and a couple of rude words shouted to away fans is part of it IMO (aslong as they don't overstep the mark).

I don't do it, nor condone it, but I don't complain when I hear/see it.

Some people on here should go to the theatre instead (or the rugby)...

:LMAO:

Or water polo?
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Oct 27 2010, 05:19 AM
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Oct 27 2010, 08:15 AM
once again i left St Andrews last night and walked to my car.

win, lose or draw i absolutely love going to watch the Blues with my son, it's just a fantastic day/night out.

yet after every game i see the same thing, gangs of Blues fans - i'd say late teens, early 20's - hanging around by the burger vans (opp the old bus station) just waiting to case trouble with opposition supporters.

they were out in force again last night, scarves over their faces as if they were freedom fighters with one eye on the nearby police, some shouting abusive comments and men and women doing their job to protect, and the other eye waiting to bait the Brentford supporters.

well let me tell you - and i hope some are reading this, or at least having it read to them, you're just loutish, childish idiots the lot of you and don't ever call yourselves Blues fans because i don't recognise you and neither should other decent supporters.

and if you do post on here, do me a favour and don't bother any more because your opinion's not worth it if you think that trying to cause trouble - trouble i might add where innocent bystanders get hurt and injured - is a good night out then you disgust me!

of course you're only any good in your groups and gangs - i tell you what, if you want to fight why don't you sign up and become real men and actually put your lives on the line instead of hiding behind each other's bravado!

some moan about, what you call the 'Vilers' on here with their differing opinions but it's this lot we should be getting rid of - these people are a disgrace to this club!

But they ARE Blues fans.

They will eventually grow out of looking for trouble/having a fight whilst following the Blues, and move on raising families ect..

In other words they will eventually grow up..

Get over it ffs :banghead:

kro

Normal teenage activity then. :banghead: Unbelievable comment really.
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Oct 27 2010, 07:34 PM
Yep exactly.

Football is a working class sport. Everyone goes there for one reason or another (vent aggresion after a week of work?! have a laugh with mates and drink a few ales?) and a couple of rude words shouted to away fans is part of it IMO (aslong as they don't overstep the mark).

I don't do it, nor condone it, but I don't complain when I hear/see it.

Some people on here should go to the theatre instead (or the rugby)...

There is a world of difference between a few choice words being exchanged between fans and the intimidating presence that can be caused by a group of people with hoods up, scarves around their faces, goading the opposition into retailiation, usually across a crowd of people who are doing little more than trying to get home.

I don't give a monkey's chuff what other clubs do, I don't want those who follow Birmingham City to engage in that sort of behaviour and I don't want them asociated with my club. They could end up being Albert bloody Einstein for all I flipping care, anyone who still thinks that violence towards opposition fans is somehow part of the game can sod right off.

You want to work off some aggression? Go to the frigging gym.


Life on Mars did a brilliant story about the football violence that was endemic in the 70s, and there's a quote from the end of the episode that sums up exactly how I feel about football violence...

Sam Tyler: You know nothing about football! I used to go to football with my dad. United and City fans used to walk to the match together. Our next door neighbour, he had a City flag up in his window. Kids used to play together in the street - red and blue. But then people like you came along and you took it away from us.
Peter Bond: A good punch up's all part of the game! It's about pride. Pride in your team. Being the best!
Sam Tyler: No it isn't! This is how it starts and then it escalates. It gets on the telly and in the press, and then other fans from other clubs start trying to out do each other. And then it becomes about hate! And then it's nothing to do with football any more! It's about gangs and scumbags like you roaming the country seeing who can cause the most trouble. And then we overreact, and we have to put up perimeter fences and we treat the fans like animals! Forty, fifty thousand people herded into pens! And then how long before something happens, eh? How long before something terrible happens and we are dragging bodies out?


There is a direct line you can draw from the actions of the hooligan element during the 70s and 80s, through the legislation to prevent, to the attitude in the police and the government to football fans, right up to Hillsborough.

Now thankfully, we are nowhere near that level, and we are nowhere near as bad as it is on the continent, but I don't want to see us heading in that direction again, and anything that we can do to stop it happening again is a good thing.
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Oct 27 2010, 02:13 PM
If any one really thinks we have major problems with hooliganism in the UK, do some research.

Google Italy vs Serbia from last week. Or ask the Liverpool fans who got stabbed in Napoli last week. Just two recent example's of real hooliganism. All we have now in the UK is the young ASBO generation, frustrated by a lack of work and a society they feel doesn't have a place for them,

West Midlands police don't know they are born. Imagine if either US, Baggies or Vile drew Galatasaray or Naples in Europe.


The major point about last nights problems was the Silly's from Brentford who couldn't take it when we equalised. A group jumped over onto the bridge between the KOP and The Gil Merrick stand. They we're trying to start on our supporters but suddenly realised they were out numbered by about 10,000 and ran back.

:applause: :applause: :applause:


And this thread is a whole lot out of proportion
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I think the problem with the OP is that it pigeon holes all blues fans into one category

Mindless non loyal t**Ts

That just ain't true

I know bloke's who don't necessary go down st Andrews for a fight, but with happily meet it face on if confronted

And I also know bloke's/youths who purely go the blues lookin for pre organised afternoon of violence.....

The latter are the ones whom taint the reputation of The club more than anything else
So to tar them all with the same brush is unfair really

Do Not condone this behaviour just trying to clarify the way I see it

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don't give a monkey's chuff what other clubs do, I don't want those who follow Birmingham City to engage in that sort of behaviour and I don't want them asociated with my club. They could end up being Albert bloody Einstein for all I flipping care, anyone who still thinks that violence towards opposition fans is somehow part of the game can sod right off.

so telling other posters to sod right off is ok then ?

feeling privileged enough to determine who should and shouldnt watch the blues

as for Blacksmith well if you cant see the point i was trying to make then have a fresh look.I have not used Inner City life as an excuse,nor have i suggested that coming from an inner city background has any direct link to active involvement in football violence...I have suggested that if you have grown up in that environment you will have witnessed a lot of things and most would be worse than a group of youths hanging around outside st andrews..

Ive been a victim of racial violence,seen some horrible things but would never elevate myself to some lofty tower where i deem to be better than the next man...too many on here hold a view and imagine it gives them the right to castigate.

discrimination of any kind is wrong..

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I'd just like to make the point anyone wearing hoodies & tracksuits are certainly not in any kind of "firm" :rolleyes:
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