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Topic Started: Dec 9 2010, 08:30 PM (618 Views)
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Dec 11 2010, 11:59 AM
dr.nick
Dec 11 2010, 11:31 AM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:21 AM
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Each student is different, just because there is a portion that everyone knows about that goes out drinking all the time does not mean they represent the large majority because they don't....


I can agree Luseth in most part of what you say but alas not this sentence. The large majority do drink and drink quite heavily. Remember I work in and around the student belt so I see it with my own eyes.

I've never met a student that didn't spend most of his/her grant on beer, but that's beside the point I'm realy worried about these militant groups hijacking the protests, one lad had to have emergency surgery for bleeding on the brain, he got struck by a copper,

Thing is there was this woman from an anarchist group and she said the students were protecting themselves and the police were the violent ones causing all the trouble.

Now we all know that these groups are causing the trouble so I think the police should go after them and shut them down and lock em up like the terrorists they are.

You may find this hard to accept, but I swear it is true doc.

During the miner's strike, and especially the marches, a hell of a lot of stone throwing was started by - lets put it this way. Geezers that arrived with the police - covered in badges and stuff, got out of their transits and joined in the march or demo. I've seen it, and we followed this group down the back of Euston as they filtered into the march. We told some stewards and we were all watching them
Right on cue they take out stones and start pelting the police. Right on cue the horses charge in from side streets.
We bumped into them disembarking from a police transit by accident because we'd gone to the wrong pub for a drink.

Call them agent provocateurs or just agitators, but I bet you'll find that those student's arrested are the hyped up ones who got carried away, and the actual evil ones just melt away.

It took Thatcher 11 years to get "violent" protests on th steets of London - taken this shower 11 weeks.

:banghead:

So what your saying is these anarchists are being run by the police.

Sorry I can't believe that if that's what you ment. This is just a bunch of thugs trying to bring down authority, it's organised and ment to cause as much unrest as possible.
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Dec 11 2010, 11:21 AM
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Each student is different, just because there is a portion that everyone knows about that goes out drinking all the time does not mean they represent the large majority because they don't....


I can agree Luseth in most part of what you say but alas not this sentence. The large majority do drink and drink quite heavily. Remember I work in and around the student belt so I see it with my own eyes.

I've never met a student that didn't spend most of his/her grant on beer, but that's beside the point I'm realy worried about these militant groups hijacking the protests, one lad had to have emergency surgery for bleeding on the brain, he got struck by a copper,

Thing is there was this woman from an anarchist group and she said the students were protecting themselves and the police were the violent ones causing all the trouble.

Now we all know that these groups are causing the trouble so I think the police should go after them and shut them down and lock em up like the terrorists they are.

Myth busting!!!!!

"New research released by alcohol charity Drinkaware, following the launch of their partnership with National Union of Students (NUS), indicates that despite popular myth, students’ attitudes to drinking may actually be healthier than their working counterparts. A third (32%) of students aged 18-24 say they stop drinking once they have reached their personal limit, while just over a quarter (28%) of those who work manage to do the same.

One in 20 (5%) of those who work think it is socially acceptable to end up in hospital as a direct result, or for reasons associated with alcohol, while just 3% of students think the same. 7% of those in employment think it is fine to be reprimanded by the police for anti-social behaviour as a result of alcohol, compared to only 3% of students."

http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/media/press-re...g-adult-workers
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Dec 11 2010, 01:41 PM
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Dec 11 2010, 12:31 PM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:21 AM
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Each student is different, just because there is a portion that everyone knows about that goes out drinking all the time does not mean they represent the large majority because they don't....


I can agree Luseth in most part of what you say but alas not this sentence. The large majority do drink and drink quite heavily. Remember I work in and around the student belt so I see it with my own eyes.

I've never met a student that didn't spend most of his/her grant on beer, but that's beside the point I'm realy worried about these militant groups hijacking the protests, one lad had to have emergency surgery for bleeding on the brain, he got struck by a copper,

Thing is there was this woman from an anarchist group and she said the students were protecting themselves and the police were the violent ones causing all the trouble.

Now we all know that these groups are causing the trouble so I think the police should go after them and shut them down and lock em up like the terrorists they are.

Myth busting!!!!!

"New research released by alcohol charity Drinkaware, following the launch of their partnership with National Union of Students (NUS), indicates that despite popular myth, students’ attitudes to drinking may actually be healthier than their working counterparts. A third (32%) of students aged 18-24 say they stop drinking once they have reached their personal limit, while just over a quarter (28%) of those who work manage to do the same.

One in 20 (5%) of those who work think it is socially acceptable to end up in hospital as a direct result, or for reasons associated with alcohol, while just 3% of students think the same. 7% of those in employment think it is fine to be reprimanded by the police for anti-social behaviour as a result of alcohol, compared to only 3% of students."

http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/media/press-re...g-adult-workers

Thanks for that , I must have known the drunkards then. :D
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Dec 11 2010, 01:46 PM
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Dec 11 2010, 12:31 PM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:21 AM
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Each student is different, just because there is a portion that everyone knows about that goes out drinking all the time does not mean they represent the large majority because they don't....


I can agree Luseth in most part of what you say but alas not this sentence. The large majority do drink and drink quite heavily. Remember I work in and around the student belt so I see it with my own eyes.

I've never met a student that didn't spend most of his/her grant on beer, but that's beside the point I'm realy worried about these militant groups hijacking the protests, one lad had to have emergency surgery for bleeding on the brain, he got struck by a copper,

Thing is there was this woman from an anarchist group and she said the students were protecting themselves and the police were the violent ones causing all the trouble.

Now we all know that these groups are causing the trouble so I think the police should go after them and shut them down and lock em up like the terrorists they are.

Myth busting!!!!!

"New research released by alcohol charity Drinkaware, following the launch of their partnership with National Union of Students (NUS), indicates that despite popular myth, students’ attitudes to drinking may actually be healthier than their working counterparts. A third (32%) of students aged 18-24 say they stop drinking once they have reached their personal limit, while just over a quarter (28%) of those who work manage to do the same.

One in 20 (5%) of those who work think it is socially acceptable to end up in hospital as a direct result, or for reasons associated with alcohol, while just 3% of students think the same. 7% of those in employment think it is fine to be reprimanded by the police for anti-social behaviour as a result of alcohol, compared to only 3% of students."

http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/media/press-re...g-adult-workers

Thanks for that , I must have known the drunkards then. :D

lol where's treetop :P

he can agree with all of my post hopefully now? ^_^


Heh
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Dec 11 2010, 12:43 PM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:59 AM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:31 AM
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Each student is different, just because there is a portion that everyone knows about that goes out drinking all the time does not mean they represent the large majority because they don't....


I can agree Luseth in most part of what you say but alas not this sentence. The large majority do drink and drink quite heavily. Remember I work in and around the student belt so I see it with my own eyes.

I've never met a student that didn't spend most of his/her grant on beer, but that's beside the point I'm realy worried about these militant groups hijacking the protests, one lad had to have emergency surgery for bleeding on the brain, he got struck by a copper,

Thing is there was this woman from an anarchist group and she said the students were protecting themselves and the police were the violent ones causing all the trouble.

Now we all know that these groups are causing the trouble so I think the police should go after them and shut them down and lock em up like the terrorists they are.

You may find this hard to accept, but I swear it is true doc.

During the miner's strike, and especially the marches, a hell of a lot of stone throwing was started by - lets put it this way. Geezers that arrived with the police - covered in badges and stuff, got out of their transits and joined in the march or demo. I've seen it, and we followed this group down the back of Euston as they filtered into the march. We told some stewards and we were all watching them
Right on cue they take out stones and start pelting the police. Right on cue the horses charge in from side streets.
We bumped into them disembarking from a police transit by accident because we'd gone to the wrong pub for a drink.

Call them agent provocateurs or just agitators, but I bet you'll find that those student's arrested are the hyped up ones who got carried away, and the actual evil ones just melt away.

It took Thatcher 11 years to get "violent" protests on th steets of London - taken this shower 11 weeks.

:banghead:

So what your saying is these anarchists are being run by the police.

Sorry I can't believe that if that's what you ment. This is just a bunch of thugs trying to bring down authority, it's organised and ment to cause as much unrest as possible.

You can of course believe whatever you like, but it's been established that agent provocateurs (at the behest of authorities) have been used in similar instances to infiltrate, undermine, and ultimately turn the public at large against these movements.

Anarchists are arguably the most easily made to look culpable (and ofttimes some completely are), as there are those within the movement that rightly or wrongly view aggressive direct action as a viable means. The authorities are aware of this fact and can infiltrate a black bloc, go violently rogue, and count on there being enough within the bloc who'll join. Successful, this tactic effectively takes all attention away from the main objectives of the vast majority of protestors, and focuses it all onto the property damage and violence caused by the minority.
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Dec 11 2010, 12:43 PM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:59 AM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:31 AM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:21 AM
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Each student is different, just because there is a portion that everyone knows about that goes out drinking all the time does not mean they represent the large majority because they don't....


I can agree Luseth in most part of what you say but alas not this sentence. The large majority do drink and drink quite heavily. Remember I work in and around the student belt so I see it with my own eyes.

I've never met a student that didn't spend most of his/her grant on beer, but that's beside the point I'm realy worried about these militant groups hijacking the protests, one lad had to have emergency surgery for bleeding on the brain, he got struck by a copper,

Thing is there was this woman from an anarchist group and she said the students were protecting themselves and the police were the violent ones causing all the trouble.

Now we all know that these groups are causing the trouble so I think the police should go after them and shut them down and lock em up like the terrorists they are.

You may find this hard to accept, but I swear it is true doc.

During the miner's strike, and especially the marches, a hell of a lot of stone throwing was started by - lets put it this way. Geezers that arrived with the police - covered in badges and stuff, got out of their transits and joined in the march or demo. I've seen it, and we followed this group down the back of Euston as they filtered into the march. We told some stewards and we were all watching them
Right on cue they take out stones and start pelting the police. Right on cue the horses charge in from side streets.
We bumped into them disembarking from a police transit by accident because we'd gone to the wrong pub for a drink.

Call them agent provocateurs or just agitators, but I bet you'll find that those student's arrested are the hyped up ones who got carried away, and the actual evil ones just melt away.

It took Thatcher 11 years to get "violent" protests on th steets of London - taken this shower 11 weeks.

:banghead:

So what your saying is these anarchists are being run by the police.

Sorry I can't believe that if that's what you ment. This is just a bunch of thugs trying to bring down authority, it's organised and ment to cause as much unrest as possible.

You can of course believe whatever you like, but it's been established that agent provocateurs (at the behest of authorities) have been used in similar instances to infiltrate, undermine, and ultimately turn the public at large against these movements.

Anarchists are arguably the most easily made to look culpable (and ofttimes some completely are), as there are those within the movement that rightly or wrongly view aggressive direct action as a viable means. The authorities are aware of this fact and can infiltrate a black bloc, go violently rogue, and count on there being enough within the bloc who'll join. Successful, this tactic effectively takes all attention away from the main objectives of the vast majority of protestors, and focuses it all onto the property damage and violence caused by the minority.

Not disputing that, many of the protesters want peaceful protests, we've had them down here and there have gone off peacefully with no arrests or riotin.

My point is the London ones give the anarchists the chance to strike at government buildings and monuments that they stand against.

Whenever you get a protest in London it always ends in violence but the finger is always pointed at the police and not at the minority that whip up tentions and cause the trouble.

If it was down to me I would make anarchist groups illigal just like they have with groups that have terrorist links.

None of these groups believe in peaceful protest just violence and damage.
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My good mate Alf - and I hope he doesn't mind my saying this was a big CND activist and he used to come around rehabs we were doing to borrow old doors (around the time of cruise missile deployment ) for demos he was doing outside the Town Hall.

He took his late wife on a major demo in London, she was not an activist of any description.But did believe in CND.
They were going down Whitehall toward Downing Street when the bobbies penned them in. The first use of kettling.
No violence from the marchers, just total agression against a legal and permitted march from mounted police and then charges to extract people - NEVER the ones with the gob or throwing things.
Alf's wife received injuries from a horse charge. Got compensation eventually, that never made big news.
It is now standard practise to film the police by supporters on marches, and also film certain balaclavered "supporters" who seem intent on upping the aggro when there is no need.

People can sit and go tut-tut and blame everything on anarchists, but if you feel strongly about something and do go on a march, just watch who is around you and what they do.99% of the time they are as law abiding as yourself 1% of the time you truly wonder what the hell they are doing alongside you.And with my experience I wonder where the hell they came from - ever since I saw a load of make-believe miners get out of a police transit van down the back of Euston road. We watched them, followed them and they were the instigators that "forced" the police to charge into the crowds.

There are nutters doc, and they will attach themselves to any possible cause, for an afternoon anyway :D

But with kettling and with police control now, there always is some "reason" to run horses into people.
Old blokes, kids, pregnant women. You name it, they get charged.

The easy answer is to tell them not to go on marches.
Do like you do, sit back and go tut-tut and find someone to blame.

Life ain't like that doc, if you don't believe some values are worth defending, then you might as well give up.



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My good mate Alf - and I hope he doesn't mind my saying this was a big CND activist and he used to come around rehabs we were doing to borrow old doors (around the time of cruise missile deployment ) for demos he was doing outside the Town Hall.

He took his late wife on a major demo in London, she was not an activist of any description.But did believe in CND.
They were going down Whitehall toward Downing Street when the bobbies penned them in. The first use of kettling.
No violence from the marchers, just total agression against a legal and permitted march from mounted police and then charges to extract people - NEVER the ones with the gob or throwing things.
Alf's wife received injuries from a horse charge. Got compensation eventually, that never made big news.
It is now standard practise to film the police by supporters on marches, and also film certain balaclavered "supporters" who seem intent on upping the aggro when there is no need.

People can sit and go tut-tut and blame everything on anarchists, but if you feel strongly about something and do go on a march, just watch who is around you and what they do.99% of the time they are as law abiding as yourself 1% of the time you truly wonder what the hell they are doing alongside you.And with my experience I wonder where the hell they came from - ever since I saw a load of make-believe miners get out of a police transit van down the back of Euston road. We watched them, followed them and they were the instigators that "forced" the police to charge into the crowds.

There are nutters doc, and they will attach themselves to any possible cause, for an afternoon anyway :D

But with kettling and with police control now, there always is some "reason" to run horses into people.
Old blokes, kids, pregnant women. You name it, they get charged.

The easy answer is to tell them not to go on marches.
Do like you do, sit back and go tut-tut and find someone to blame.

Life ain't like that doc, if you don't believe some values are worth defending, then you might as well give up.

I know things that you mentioned ie minors and protests in the past are true but today there is so much pressure on the police to do things properly that those are things of the past.

Today though it's not the police it's that minority that wants the agro.

Believe it or not I do believe in the peaceful protest but you never get them so it defeats the point.

The majority of people will see them as thugs.

I feel sorry for the innocent that get caught up in it but if they must see that if they go on these Marches then there is a chance that they will get caught up in it.

What they should do is if they find out people are planing to cause trouble then they should inform the police.

But for some reason they apear to see these idiots as their protection.

What amazes me is these tuition fees aren't that bad and it appears to me they've believe the propaganda given out by the opposition partys and such.
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Dec 11 2010, 03:45 PM
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Dec 11 2010, 12:43 PM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:31 AM
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Dec 11 2010, 11:21 AM
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Each student is different, just because there is a portion that everyone knows about that goes out drinking all the time does not mean they represent the large majority because they don't....


I can agree Luseth in most part of what you say but alas not this sentence. The large majority do drink and drink quite heavily. Remember I work in and around the student belt so I see it with my own eyes.

I've never met a student that didn't spend most of his/her grant on beer, but that's beside the point I'm realy worried about these militant groups hijacking the protests, one lad had to have emergency surgery for bleeding on the brain, he got struck by a copper,

Thing is there was this woman from an anarchist group and she said the students were protecting themselves and the police were the violent ones causing all the trouble.

Now we all know that these groups are causing the trouble so I think the police should go after them and shut them down and lock em up like the terrorists they are.

You may find this hard to accept, but I swear it is true doc.

During the miner's strike, and especially the marches, a hell of a lot of stone throwing was started by - lets put it this way. Geezers that arrived with the police - covered in badges and stuff, got out of their transits and joined in the march or demo. I've seen it, and we followed this group down the back of Euston as they filtered into the march. We told some stewards and we were all watching them
Right on cue they take out stones and start pelting the police. Right on cue the horses charge in from side streets.
We bumped into them disembarking from a police transit by accident because we'd gone to the wrong pub for a drink.

Call them agent provocateurs or just agitators, but I bet you'll find that those student's arrested are the hyped up ones who got carried away, and the actual evil ones just melt away.

It took Thatcher 11 years to get "violent" protests on th steets of London - taken this shower 11 weeks.

:banghead:

So what your saying is these anarchists are being run by the police.

Sorry I can't believe that if that's what you ment. This is just a bunch of thugs trying to bring down authority, it's organised and ment to cause as much unrest as possible.

You can of course believe whatever you like, but it's been established that agent provocateurs (at the behest of authorities) have been used in similar instances to infiltrate, undermine, and ultimately turn the public at large against these movements.

Anarchists are arguably the most easily made to look culpable (and ofttimes some completely are), as there are those within the movement that rightly or wrongly view aggressive direct action as a viable means. The authorities are aware of this fact and can infiltrate a black bloc, go violently rogue, and count on there being enough within the bloc who'll join. Successful, this tactic effectively takes all attention away from the main objectives of the vast majority of protestors, and focuses it all onto the property damage and violence caused by the minority.

Not disputing that, many of the protesters want peaceful protests, we've had them down here and there have gone off peacefully with no arrests or riotin.

My point is the London ones give the anarchists the chance to strike at government buildings and monuments that they stand against.

Whenever you get a protest in London it always ends in violence but the finger is always pointed at the police and not at the minority that whip up tentions and cause the trouble.

If it was down to me I would make anarchist groups illigal just like they have with groups that have terrorist links.

None of these groups believe in peaceful protest just violence and damage.

Well I'm glad it's not down to you then. :LOL:

Not every anarchist or "anarchist group" is involved with "violence and damage"; it's just that those that are, or that are simply accused of being involved, receive all the attention. As a result, ALL anarchists are generalised and their positions on the issues marginalised.

As I've stated, police forces and other government agencies have--and continue to--infiltrate and implant agent provocateurs within the varying groups at protests. Their objective is to create havoc, undermine the cause, and to take the focus of the general public off of the issues being demonstrated against, and onto property damage and injury. Completely sabotaging the discourse, and making change all the more difficult.

I read a Howard Zinn interview a few years ago, and Raphealite's last post reminded me of it. I'll share...

"I was just a seventeen-year-old kid, going to Times Square to participate in this left-wing demonstration. I really didn’t know what was going on. But it seemed good. The signs were for peace and justice and so on. But then at this peaceful demonstration, I was attacked by police mounted on horseback and on foot. Before I knew it, I was clubbed and knocked unconscious. You might say I woke up with a new consciousness. I woke up realizing that things my radical friends had been saying to me were really true, that the police and the government were not detached bystanders, that freedom of speech did not really exist for dissenters, for radicals, for troublemakers. So it gave me a radical view of the United States, a critical view of the role of the state and of the instruments of the state—the police, the Army, and so on—as not being neutral at all in political battles, but being generally against workers and against striking people, against dissenters of all kinds."
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I certainly would not believe anything in the MSM but nothing is as it seems in some of these demos, at an EU demo against islamisation in Brussels a lorry load of supposed right wing nutjobs come and start trouble at an otherwise peaceful demo.

The authorities under orders from the mayor then start arresting everybody including some MEPS, it was plain enough to see that the people bused in to cause trouble were out of uniform military personal by the hair cuts and by there body language, no trainers on any of those barstewards just army issued boots.
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in my opinion not enough people attacked charlie and trigger lol!!! i'm surprised the animal rights people haven't tried to protect her :D i mean everybody has the right to be ugly, she just takes it too far :LMAO:
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Each student is different, just because there is a portion that everyone knows about that goes out drinking all the time does not mean they represent the large majority because they don't....


I can agree Luseth in most part of what you say but alas not this sentence. The large majority do drink and drink quite heavily. Remember I work in and around the student belt so I see it with my own eyes.

I've never met a student that didn't spend most of his/her grant on beer, but that's beside the point I'm realy worried about these militant groups hijacking the protests, one lad had to have emergency surgery for bleeding on the brain, he got struck by a copper,

Thing is there was this woman from an anarchist group and she said the students were protecting themselves and the police were the violent ones causing all the trouble.

Now we all know that these groups are causing the trouble so I think the police should go after them and shut them down and lock em up like the terrorists they are.

Myth busting!!!!!

"New research released by alcohol charity Drinkaware, following the launch of their partnership with National Union of Students (NUS), indicates that despite popular myth, students’ attitudes to drinking may actually be healthier than their working counterparts. A third (32%) of students aged 18-24 say they stop drinking once they have reached their personal limit, while just over a quarter (28%) of those who work manage to do the same.

One in 20 (5%) of those who work think it is socially acceptable to end up in hospital as a direct result, or for reasons associated with alcohol, while just 3% of students think the same. 7% of those in employment think it is fine to be reprimanded by the police for anti-social behaviour as a result of alcohol, compared to only 3% of students."

http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/media/press-re...g-adult-workers

Aw! come on tj, we all know figures can be doctored. Take a look at some of the so called official figures quoted on global warming issues, for & against. I have said myself many times on this forum anyone can quote the figures they want to believe in, it all depends on which side of the fence you want to sit.
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. I have said  myself many times on this forum anyone can quote the figures they want to believe in, it all depends on which side of the fence you want to sit.

So figures have no influence on you ?

:LMAO:

It is the INTERPRETATION of figures my fiend.

Statistics do not lie, they exist as a proof of research, investigation and fact finding.

HOW they are interpreted - whether the sample was honest, whether the parameters were correct, whether the the contributions were accurate etc - they can be disseminated and spun for either side of the argument.

But findings do not change, whether poorly done or highly accurate, you choose to accept the most honest.

Me, I'd rather go with respected proof and not "proof" paid for by oil sheiks and US billionaires who have a need for continual exploration and pollution.

And no doubt, to your amazement will soon prove through "their stats" that the Earth is truly flat.

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I'm more appalled by the total lack of respect shown to the CENOTAPH. The wording on the side reads "To our Glorious dead"

These totally yobbish, so called educated people just do not deserve the sacrificing these men and women gave in the defence of our country that they have the freedom to live in.

Six years ago I escorted a coach load of ex French Paras on a tour of London. They showed the very highest respect to everywhere I showed them. We went past Buckingham Palace Twice, over Westminster Bridge and along the Embankment Opposite the Houses of Parliament. Past Westminster Abbey, and when we went past the statue of Sir Winston Churchill they all stood up and saluted. However when we went up Whitehall, they made the coach driver stop at the CENOTAPH for a whole two minutes silence. There were Police present, but when they saw what was happening they turned a blind eye.

On the coach were several Free French War veterans and at least two who had walked over 200 miles to reach the Channel in 1942, where they stole a fishing boat and came over to to England.

I dread to think what they are thinking of us right now.
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Was on my way to catch a train from Euston last week. On the way out a load of lay abouts, sorry students.

What were they chanting?

"Lets all go riot, lets all go riot LA LA LA"

Treble the fee's, I'd times them by 10. Saves me paying for cheap beer down the Bristol road.
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