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Zigic; Sell or give time???
Topic Started: Jan 25 2011, 11:15 AM (3,102 Views)
Kyle-KRO
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Jan 27 2011, 08:50 AM
Some us of never doubted him, but it was good to see him do well. We should now do everything to ensure that he doesn't leave in the next few days.

This. **thumbup
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mezz20
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At times yes he is frustrating but very much like Crouch he causes so many problems due to his size and awkwardness. When ever he plays to his credit he either scores or creates goals. I still think we need a more intelligent forward to play off him as Jerome doesn't read the flicks well enough but playing them together for a run of games should improve that!
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adblues4life
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zigic is quality at half time did u see the both west spam centre halfs they were arguing with each other saying you can mark him lol. He causes problems in the box and with a run of games can be a quality striker
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SerboMan
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You cant expect from Žig to be Ronaldinho, dribling and doing virtuosity on the ball. People who dont like him, ussualy do that, he is not that kind of a striker.

He is a player of assignment, he need an average ball on his head to score or to pass, he is a constant threat in a box, and so usefull in box when defending, olso. There are so few players like him. Statistic is on his side, look numbers at Racing and Red Star. When he played, he was making stats, its simple as that. That goes for Valencia olso.

Greetings from Serbia. :)
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uger
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NikolaZigic

Only 2-1 last night in the semi-final. I am confident. I am excited to play in Wembley ;-)

13 Jan Favorite Retweet Reply



Just for the record. This is a tweet from Ziga, after the first game against West Ham. He, aparently, never doubted about historic final game for Blues :)



Posted Image Posted Image

We're all hoping for you guys, not to lose this epic man in favor of Santander as Big Z is one and only...

KRO
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friendly76
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I have just sat and watched the semi final again for the 3rd time, the second half to quote Martin Keown "Birmingham are relentless in attack and getting forward to Zigic"

I honestly think if we let this guy go out on loan this week then we really are making a huge mistake. when played to his abilities like last night, the man is colossal and an asset to any team.

We need to give him a fair crack and keep him until the end of the season then make a judgement, i can see Ziggy causing Arsenal no end of problems at Wembley if we play like we did last night, quality balls into Ziggy for the knock down, the striker and midfield following up for the second ball, that will stifle Arsenals passing game and will be our biggest threat.

I hope we keep him and give Ziggy a chance, it the least the guy deserves, after all every time he plays we score and win.

KRO

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pooley
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I dont think zig will ever be prolific in the scoring or assist front for us or any team in the prem.

HOWEVER (and its in capitals because its a big however) he is the type of player who might only score 5 goals but they will be 5 goals in very important games and the few assists he gets will also be in big games...look at it so far

the goal v villa - against our local rivals
above again - the winner to get us through to the semis

then last night he changed the whole game, our 3rd shows even when he doesnt make good clean contact he can still put others off their game and cause havock, he can on his day be a nuisance. Plus he is used to playing in BIG games (no pun intended)
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SerboMan
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Pooley
Jan 28 2011, 12:02 AM
I dont think zig will ever be prolific in the scoring or assist front for us or any team in the prem.

HOWEVER (and its in capitals because its a big however) he is the type of player who might only score 5 goals but they will be 5 goals in very important games and the few assists he gets will also be in big games...look at it so far

the goal v villa - against our local rivals
above again - the winner to get us through to the semis

then last night he changed the whole game, our 3rd shows even when he doesnt make good clean contact he can still put others off their game and cause havock, he can on his day be a nuisance. Plus he is used to playing in BIG games (no pun intended)

Pooley, its all abput system.

If the team play 4-4-2 with fast and acurate wingers with good passing, Zig will deliver at least 10 in a season, considering he plays constantly. Trust me, i watch him during whole career, its simple as that.

he can be succesfull attacking trhe middle giveing return balls etc, but in system that suits him - he is a murderer.

All the best
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friendly76
Jan 27 2011, 09:44 PM
I have just sat and watched the semi final again for the 3rd time, the second half to quote Martin Keown "Birmingham are relentless in attack and getting forward to Zigic"

I honestly think if we let this guy go out on loan this week then we really are making a huge mistake. when played to his abilities like last night, the man is colossal and an asset to any team.

We need to give him a fair crack and keep him until the end of the season then make a judgement, i can see Ziggy causing Arsenal no end of problems at Wembley if we play like we did last night, quality balls into Ziggy for the knock down, the striker and midfield following up for the second ball, that will stifle Arsenals passing game and will be our biggest threat.

I hope we keep him and give Ziggy a chance, it the least the guy deserves, after all every time he plays we score and win.

KRO

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NO NO NO WE CAN'T LET HIM GO! That 6 mill we paid for him will still be effectively tied up if we loan him and he DEFINATELY has something to offer us as shown last night.
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Woodbine
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As Serboman said, it's all about systems. If Ziga had started the game with the tactics AM employed in the first half, we would be slating the player today. Unless we change our normal defensive, negative style, then we may as well plant a 6'7" cardboard cut-out in the opponents' box. Horses for courses.
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Trouble is if we loan him out, thats our plan B out the window and all our other strikers are to similiar to each other which means no goal threat at all.
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Don't see any point in loaning him out unless the Board need his wages to fund an acquisition in which case we are in more trouble than we realised!

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Jan 28 2011, 12:58 AM
Pooley
Jan 28 2011, 12:02 AM
I dont think zig will ever be prolific in the scoring or assist front for us or any team in the prem.

HOWEVER (and its in capitals because its a big however) he is the type of player who might only score 5 goals but they will be 5 goals in very important games and the few assists he gets will also be in big games...look at it so far

the goal v villa - against our local rivals
above again - the winner to get us through to the semis

then last night he changed the whole game, our 3rd shows even when he doesnt make good clean contact he can still put others off their game and cause havock, he can on his day be a nuisance. Plus he is used to playing in BIG games (no pun intended)

Pooley, its all abput system.

If the team play 4-4-2 with fast and acurate wingers with good passing, Zig will deliver at least 10 in a season, considering he plays constantly. Trust me, i watch him during whole career, its simple as that.

he can be succesfull attacking trhe middle giveing return balls etc, but in system that suits him - he is a murderer.

All the best

I hope you right. He enjoys playing his football and he gives 110% every time he plays and always tries hard so he has my respect and support.

Welcome to the blues board :)
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lazymut
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So glad the fans are starting to get behind him. He is a true talent and there isn't a defence in the world that the Serbian giant can't trouble! Imagine if you were a defender and you were given the job of marking Zigic.
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SerboMan
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Tnx for wellcome Pooley.

I like Zig, nad of course, i came on board to see opinions of others about him.

Besides that, i think premiership is by far best league in the world, so i was so exciting to watch Zig in it.

But, i read that loan deal to Racing is over.

I am sad, he would do a lot, if he had a right chance.

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bluenose69
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You can understand now why i said what i did before his last 2 games. He is still some way off being the player he can be but he has shown the signs that he can be the player all teams hope he isnt. The way he held the ball off yesterday was exactly what eck would of been drilling into him & will do wonders for his confidence.
Now watch in typical blues fashion, we will sell him :LMAO:
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Alfie-22
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Does anyone know the latest on Zig?

I really don't want him to go now but read that he could still be going to Racing Santander.

PS. Did anyone else see him hit his head on the top of the tunnel after the game on Wednesday?
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I preferred his massive throw in which seemed to require very little effort.
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Chucho had a year Zigic deserves the same, although IMO AMC pulled Benitez out at the wrong time both for him an our unbeaten run!

Lets not go down that road again! :copno:
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The Concerned Potato Head
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Zigic just needs to accept that people will never take him seriously simply because he is tall


Crouch get's the same treatment, "Beanpole", "Lanky", "Freak"


ability means nothing to these idiots.


http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premie...der-for-nikola-?


£5.1m?


hmmm. i'd leave it for now.

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ZIG WILL GET THEWINNER IN THE FINAL
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I've defended Zigic a bit with other fans who have slagged him off - as a player who had never played Prem hes had to be given some time to adjust - and I think its all about the quality into him.

In some games this season we have played long, straight balls up toward him - and the crowd has got on his back for not winning the ball. Now whilst I'd agree he could have been more aggressive in attacking the ball on several occasions, those sorts of balls are very hard to knock down to another striker/midfielder.

But when we have played some good crosses and diagonal balls in - ie West Ham game, goal at Arsenal - Zigic has looked far better and has caused real problems for the defenders.

As others have said, just his presence causes real problems and he could be a good weapon from set pieces in away games.
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I'm glad we didnt sell him, he is going to be a good player, and if we get that diagonal ball into the box no one can defend against him, and with martins sniffing around the box i think it could work well.
And i think you can see improvements in his aggression and urgency a 6,7 striker is never going to be spritely and quick on his feet but he has shown a good touch and brings the midfield into play fairly well. Also against coventry and west ham was tackling back more and being more physical.
And to be honest not once for a few seasons have i ever felt confident jerome would score so its no different having zigic up front instead.
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Jan 25 2011, 11:55 PM
Zigic. All these people that say he is good, great, needs more time etc., please answer these points.

Have you ever seen him run, anything like fast and with purpose, either with or without the ball ?

Have you ever seen his feet leave the ground when he jumps ?

Have you ever seen him consistently outjump defenders, several of them considerably shorter than him ?

Have you ever seen him use any physical strength to win or shield a ball or out muscle an opponent ?

Have you ever seen him consistenly control the ball and lay it off to teammates, rather than try fancy flicks ?

People on here also say play to his strengths. Some say play him with service from the wings - presumably for him to head the ball ? Others say his strength is not in heading, it's in close control. Any inconsistency here ?

And for those who say he needs time to settle, I say Raphael Van Der Vaart.


Answers to questions
1- He's is 6'8 ? how many 6'8 sprinters do you know you would wanna try moving a giant frame like that quickly, its called physics.
2- yes maybe try focusing on some of the things he does right rather than wrong
3-Not when the ball is straight and the defender has the momentum and advantage, a diagonal ball and its zigic all day.
4- Again yes
5- If he was consistant and did everything perfeclty all the time you think he would be worth 6 million and play for us, NO
Van der vaart comparison is hilarious, how can you compare a world class player who harry redknapp got for 6 million (brown envelope falls out of pocket) and zigic is stupid

Blues have always had average to slightly above average players some exceptions dugarry etc, who have performed to their best and gave their all. and he will try supporting him rather than cheer when he wins a header, and i bet youl be cheeering when he scores the winner at wembley.
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the big man comes up trumps again people have to start recognising his quality soon
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