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Neil Moxley replies - Reinstated; Please keep all discussion civil
Topic Started: Feb 7 2011, 10:28 AM (2,857 Views)
nm1968
Mick Harford
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Right gents, if that is the correct term to use on this forum, Neil Moxley here, of the Daily Mail.

First, thing to say is (OMG) that story about Terry Westley appears to be true.

Secondly, contract negotiations with JM are still on-going. I understand that there are one or two sticking points over length of contract. However, at present, that deal remains unsigned.

Thirdly, not that I have to rattle my medals at anyone on here but - and whoever Alfred E Nueman is - should he wish to make himself known to my goodself before any Birmingham City game and engage in a friendly discussion to my face about my credentials to cover this football club, I suggest he goes to the St Andrew's Tavern about an hour before kick-off and asks to speak to Tommy Foley. Tommy will point him in my direction. I will not be there against Stoke - WBA is more newsworthy at this moment in time - try Newcastle on the Tuesday.

Fourthly, I'm not anti-Blues, anti-Villa, anti-West Brom. I'm pro-Blues, pro-Villa, pro-WBA, Wolves and all the rest of them. However, if I see, hear or feel there are issues that need addressing or need saying, I'll address them. It's my job.

Fifthly, neither I or Colin Tattum are 'poodles' for this football club. Colin is a first-rate reporter who has Blues' best-interests at heart. He has to maintain relationships with employees at the club that he has to cover on a daily basis, yet try to balance that out by representing the supporters' voices. I am cut a bit more slack because I have other clubs on the patch that need to be covered. Also there is a difference between local and national coverage.

Finally, the people on here who glibly ***** about remarks like 'he's a s**t journalist' should try and wear the shoes. There's good and bad. Just like there are good and bad estate agents, solicitors, tyre-fitters and the rest. I may be in the former category. The fact I've been employed for the past 20 years in the business suggests I should have been found out by now. But, of course, that's a matter of opinion.

Right, I'm off for a cuppa. And to dig up some more stories that are patently wrong.
KRO fellas, (and ladies)

Neil Moxley
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hey Mr Moxley
Thats great that you would come on here and express your views and position which was interesting and helpful. Appreciated-and you shouldnt take everything written on here as at all represenataive of a majority view anyway.
PS I do hope I have not been taken in by some prankster!
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nm1968
Feb 7 2011, 10:28 AM
Right gents, if that is the correct term to use on this forum, Neil Moxley here, of the Daily Mail.

First, thing to say is (OMG) that story about Terry Westley appears to be true.

Secondly, contract negotiations with JM are still on-going. I understand that there are one or two sticking points over length of contract. However, at present, that deal remains unsigned.

Thirdly, not that I have to rattle my medals at anyone on here but - and whoever Alfred E Nueman is - should he wish to make himself known to my goodself before any Birmingham City game and engage in a friendly discussion to my face about my credentials to cover this football club, I suggest he goes to the St Andrew's Tavern about an hour before kick-off and asks to speak to Tommy Foley. Tommy will point him in my direction. I will not be there against Stoke - WBA is more newsworthy at this moment in time - try Newcastle on the Tuesday.

Fourthly, I'm not anti-Blues, anti-Villa, anti-West Brom. I'm pro-Blues, pro-Villa, pro-WBA, Wolves and all the rest of them. However, if I see, hear or feel there are issues that need addressing or need saying, I'll address them. It's my job.

Fifthly, neither I or Colin Tattum are 'poodles' for this football club. Colin is a first-rate reporter who has Blues' best-interests at heart. He has to maintain relationships with employees at the club that he has to cover on a daily basis, yet try to balance that out by representing the supporters' voices. I am cut a bit more slack because I have other clubs on the patch that need to be covered. Also there is a difference between local and national coverage.

Finally, the people on here who glibly ***** about remarks like 'he's a s**t journalist' should try and wear the shoes. There's good and bad. Just like there are good and bad estate agents, solicitors, tyre-fitters and the rest. I may be in the former category. The fact I've been employed for the past 20 years in the business suggests I should have been found out by now. But, of course, that's a matter of opinion.

Right, I'm off for a cuppa. And to dig up some more stories that are patently wrong.
KRO fellas, (and ladies)

Neil Moxley
Daily Mail

why didnt you put your name to the original story?
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nm1968
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Right, Neil Moxley again.

Just an add to those who say I didn't put my name to the original story.

In the paper, it said that I edited the 'Screamers' section. On-line, which is a different sports' department, they probably wouldn't know who had written it as we file, first and foremost, to the paper.

If it is, (or isn't) used, it then is freely picked up by the web-site guys and added overnight. They wouldn't know, as I was editing the whole section, which reporter had forwarded which piece as I filed it in one 'hit.'

Other contributors, such as Ian Ladyman, filed the story about Mario Balotelli, for example.

Sorry if that's confusing, it's just the way it is. There's no conspiracy. I'm happy to stand (or fall) by whatever I put my name to.

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Thank you for your response Neil Moxley. Please understand that there are some on here who are rather skittish about matters BCFC and still others who seemingly believe that the sole purpose of the national press is to see that BCFC fade into oblivion as soon as possible. I'm sure that this isn't the first time that the messanger has been blamed for the contents of the message but it transpires that your article was not only accurate but open handed. May I apologize on behalf of some our more hysterical supporters? Clearly the skunk in Brum is a lot stronger than in other parts of the nation.
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Who told him he was being slagged off on here

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nm1968
Feb 7 2011, 10:28 AM
Right gents, if that is the correct term to use on this forum, Neil Moxley here, of the Daily Mail.

First, thing to say is (OMG) that story about Terry Westley appears to be true.

Secondly, contract negotiations with JM are still on-going. I understand that there are one or two sticking points over length of contract. However, at present, that deal remains unsigned.

Thirdly, not that I have to rattle my medals at anyone on here but - and whoever Alfred E Nueman is - should he wish to make himself known to my goodself before any Birmingham City game and engage in a friendly discussion to my face about my credentials to cover this football club, I suggest he goes to the St Andrew's Tavern about an hour before kick-off and asks to speak to Tommy Foley. Tommy will point him in my direction. I will not be there against Stoke - WBA is more newsworthy at this moment in time - try Newcastle on the Tuesday.

Fourthly, I'm not anti-Blues, anti-Villa, anti-West Brom. I'm pro-Blues, pro-Villa, pro-WBA, Wolves and all the rest of them. However, if I see, hear or feel there are issues that need addressing or need saying, I'll address them. It's my job.

Fifthly, neither I or Colin Tattum are 'poodles' for this football club. Colin is a first-rate reporter who has Blues' best-interests at heart. He has to maintain relationships with employees at the club that he has to cover on a daily basis, yet try to balance that out by representing the supporters' voices. I am cut a bit more slack because I have other clubs on the patch that need to be covered. Also there is a difference between local and national coverage.

Finally, the people on here who glibly ***** about remarks like 'he's a s**t journalist' should try and wear the shoes. There's good and bad. Just like there are good and bad estate agents, solicitors, tyre-fitters and the rest. I may be in the former category. The fact I've been employed for the past 20 years in the business suggests I should have been found out by now. But, of course, that's a matter of opinion.

Right, I'm off for a cuppa. And to dig up some more stories that are patently wrong.
KRO fellas, (and ladies)

Neil Moxley
Daily Mail

With the greatest of respect; whilst the original piece correctly unearthed the departure of Terry Westley; it made much more of a completely spurious and speculative aspertion that young Jordon Mutch may be on his way because of it....

Colin Tattum has said theres nothing in that whatsoever.

What was the jounalistic basis for for putting that particular slant on the Westley story, Neil?
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mybluearmy
Feb 7 2011, 01:46 PM
nm1968
Feb 7 2011, 10:28 AM
Right gents, if that is the correct term to use on this forum, Neil Moxley here, of the Daily Mail.

First, thing to say is (OMG) that story about Terry Westley appears to be true.

Secondly, contract negotiations with JM are still on-going. I understand that there are one or two sticking points over length of contract. However, at present, that deal remains unsigned.

Thirdly, not that I have to rattle my medals at anyone on here but - and whoever Alfred E Nueman is - should he wish to make himself known to my goodself before any Birmingham City game and engage in a friendly discussion to my face about my credentials to cover this football club, I suggest he goes to the St Andrew's Tavern about an hour before kick-off and asks to speak to Tommy Foley. Tommy will point him in my direction. I will not be there against Stoke - WBA is more newsworthy at this moment in time - try Newcastle on the Tuesday.

Fourthly, I'm not anti-Blues, anti-Villa, anti-West Brom. I'm pro-Blues, pro-Villa, pro-WBA, Wolves and all the rest of them. However, if I see, hear or feel there are issues that need addressing or need saying, I'll address them. It's my job.

Fifthly, neither I or Colin Tattum are 'poodles' for this football club. Colin is a first-rate reporter who has Blues' best-interests at heart. He has to maintain relationships with employees at the club that he has to cover on a daily basis, yet try to balance that out by representing the supporters' voices. I am cut a bit more slack because I have other clubs on the patch that need to be covered. Also there is a difference between local and national coverage.

Finally, the people on here who glibly ***** about remarks like 'he's a s**t journalist' should try and wear the shoes. There's good and bad. Just like there are good and bad estate agents, solicitors, tyre-fitters and the rest. I may be in the former category. The fact I've been employed for the past 20 years in the business suggests I should have been found out by now. But, of course, that's a matter of opinion.

Right, I'm off for a cuppa. And to dig up some more stories that are patently wrong.
KRO fellas, (and ladies)

Neil Moxley
Daily Mail

With the greatest of respect; whilst the original piece correctly unearthed the departure of Terry Westley; it made much more of a completely spurious and speculative aspertion that young Jordon Mutch may be on his way because of it....

Colin Tattum has said theres nothing in that whatsoever.

What was the jounalistic basis for for putting that particular slant on the Westley story, Neil?

To be fair Terry Westley was the driving force which persuaded Jordan Mutch and his family to allow him to join blues.

If Jordan can't see himself getting into the team after proving himself to be a good Championship player I have no doubt he'll leave to a team willing to meet his requirements for game time given his ability and potential.
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I dont dispute what you're saying at all, but Jordon is no longer a youth player. If he wanted to leave for 'game time' rather than be getting splinters sitting on his backside I'd understand that, but the assertion in the Mail was 'Westley is leaving... therefore so is Mutch!'.

Whilst you can give the Mail credit for unearthing Terry's departure, i think the thing that irked most bluenoses was the salacious link to jordon to, erm, spice the story up a bit.
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nm1968
Feb 7 2011, 10:28 AM
Right gents, if that is the correct term to use on this forum, Neil Moxley here, of the Daily Mail.

First, thing to say is (OMG) that story about Terry Westley appears to be true.

Secondly, contract negotiations with JM are still on-going. I understand that there are one or two sticking points over length of contract. However, at present, that deal remains unsigned.

Thirdly, not that I have to rattle my medals at anyone on here but - and whoever Alfred E Nueman is - should he wish to make himself known to my goodself before any Birmingham City game and engage in a friendly discussion to my face about my credentials to cover this football club, I suggest he goes to the St Andrew's Tavern about an hour before kick-off and asks to speak to Tommy Foley. Tommy will point him in my direction. I will not be there against Stoke - WBA is more newsworthy at this moment in time - try Newcastle on the Tuesday.

Fourthly, I'm not anti-Blues, anti-Villa, anti-West Brom. I'm pro-Blues, pro-Villa, pro-WBA, Wolves and all the rest of them. However, if I see, hear or feel there are issues that need addressing or need saying, I'll address them. It's my job.

Fifthly, neither I or Colin Tattum are 'poodles' for this football club. Colin is a first-rate reporter who has Blues' best-interests at heart. He has to maintain relationships with employees at the club that he has to cover on a daily basis, yet try to balance that out by representing the supporters' voices. I am cut a bit more slack because I have other clubs on the patch that need to be covered. Also there is a difference between local and national coverage.

Finally, the people on here who glibly ***** about remarks like 'he's a s**t journalist' should try and wear the shoes. There's good and bad. Just like there are good and bad estate agents, solicitors, tyre-fitters and the rest. I may be in the former category. The fact I've been employed for the past 20 years in the business suggests I should have been found out by now. But, of course, that's a matter of opinion.

Right, I'm off for a cuppa. And to dig up some more stories that are patently wrong.
KRO fellas, (and ladies)

Neil Moxley
Daily Mail

NM - don't take it personally, the stigma comes with being a journo!!

Shocked that Westley has left.

There's a lot of staff turnover here. Vico Hui, Dunford, Aikten, Westley, investment strategists replacing one another...

Hm. Interesting.

Well, we have brought some excellent players to the squad.
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The Mutch related article was typically speculative journalism and hey guys! That's what journalists do- they speculate which in turn gets the public talking. The guy is only doing his job but some of the 'they're out to get us' paranoia is truly incredible. Jesus, some you people are so thin skinned your bones are showing! Get a life!
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He's a bit to sensitive to be a journalist if you ask me, especially for the Daily Fail
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:silence: what are forums for? Perhaps you ought to jog on and get a life yourself, cheeky get.

Attack the argument not the man. You were doing fine til the last bit where you went a wee bit hysterical.
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Personally I would have to know what shoes and what size they are before I even consider getting into them....
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If im honest Neil has been by far in the know about blues matters before Tatts has this season. Fair play to you for coming on here and putting your side of the story. There are some internet warriors on here but what you have to HAS TO BE respected **thumbup .
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Just because I'm still logged on and I feel like responding to the people who have said this has no foundation in truth, please allow to me illuminate you further.

For your information only - and Tatts will no doubt confirm this as fact - the reason why Jordan Mutch is at Birmingham City at all is because Terry brought him over with him from Derby County.

And to all those people who say the two aren't linked. Jordan actually stayed with Terry for a year or so in digs.

So, who do you think he may be persuaded to listen to?

Yes, that's right. The person who has looked after his best interests since he was a teenager and helped him become a professional.

So, it therefore follows that if Terry has left under a cloud - and I'd rather not go into those details because I'll be here all day - then he may influence Jordan's decision to stay or go.

I'm not saying he will because at the moment, my sources tell me the deal isn't a million miles off being sorted.

So that's where we are. So it's not been dreamt up, the two are related and it could, although it may not, happen.

Which is exactly what I wrote in the first place.

Everybody clear?

Fantastic.


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nm1968
Feb 7 2011, 02:49 PM
Just because I'm still logged on and I feel like responding to the people who have said this has no foundation in truth, please allow to me illuminate you further.

For your information only - and Tatts will no doubt confirm this as fact - the reason why Jordan Mutch is at Birmingham City at all is because Terry brought him over with him from Derby County.

And to all those people who say the two aren't linked. Jordan actually stayed with Terry for a year or so in digs.

So, who do you think he may be persuaded to listen to?

Yes, that's right. The person who has looked after his best interests since he was a teenager and helped him become a professional.

So, it therefore follows that if Terry has left under a cloud - and I'd rather not go into those details because I'll be here all day - then he may influence Jordan's decision to stay or go.

I'm not saying he will because at the moment, my sources tell me the deal isn't a million miles off being sorted.

So that's where we are. So it's not been dreamt up, the two are related and it could, although it may not, happen.

Which is exactly what I wrote in the first place.

Everybody clear?

Fantastic.

i can confirm everything you say is exactly right regarding Mutch.

Westley was sacked though.
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My God it made whoever said neil moxley had made up this story look pretty damm stupid!
Terry Westley (who seemed a top bloke) hadnt got a player into the 1st team on a regular basis.
Now whether that is his faiult or our first team managers I dont know! But I personally would love to see home grown kids given a chance!
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Too many 'ifs, buts and maybes' to make a big headline out've that, for me Neil, I'm afraid...Only my opinion of course but there you go, we'll all have a different take on the matter. I reckon Jordon will see getting a PL run out at Old Trafford shows that the Mgr sees him as a bone fide blues player.
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nm1968
Feb 7 2011, 02:49 PM
Just because I'm still logged on and I feel like responding to the people who have said this has no foundation in truth, please allow to me illuminate you further.

For your information only - and Tatts will no doubt confirm this as fact - the reason why Jordan Mutch is at Birmingham City at all is because Terry brought him over with him from Derby County.

And to all those people who say the two aren't linked. Jordan actually stayed with Terry for a year or so in digs.

So, who do you think he may be persuaded to listen to?

Yes, that's right. The person who has looked after his best interests since he was a teenager and helped him become a professional.

So, it therefore follows that if Terry has left under a cloud - and I'd rather not go into those details because I'll be here all day - then he may influence Jordan's decision to stay or go.

I'm not saying he will because at the moment, my sources tell me the deal isn't a million miles off being sorted.

So that's where we are. So it's not been dreamt up, the two are related and it could, although it may not, happen.

Which is exactly what I wrote in the first place.

Everybody clear?

Fantastic.

This may surprise you, but some of knew that, i.e. the relationship between Westley and Much.

What we are asking is how that translates into a possible Much departure ?

Why you chose to even raise it?Because it happened once before when Westley bought in a bit of class as he took over the Academy. If he goes to another Academy, he won't be taking Much, will he?

I think we can all figure out exactly where you got the heads-up from---now :D ---like that couldn't be hard to figure.

One insider tip-off and a dollop of fanatsy = Good journalism?

Well done Alfred for rattling the cage :LMAO:
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Who told him he was being slagged off on here

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I hope no one tips Jerome off

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Who told him he was being slagged off on here

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I hope no one tips Jerome off

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pothead can you rename this thread NEIL MOXLEY since it seems he as turned it into a thread about him and not the OP **thumbup


oh and :wembley2: is neil moxley :ph43r:

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Feb 7 2011, 12:51 PM
Who told him he was being slagged off on here

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I hope no one tips Jerome off

:LOL:

pothead can you rename this thread NEIL MOXLEY since it seems he as turned it into a thread about him and not the OP **thumbup


oh and :wembley2: is neil moxley :ph43r:

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a reporter with balls, i like it.

if Mr Moxley is still online then i would really appreciate your insight as the the workings at Birmingham City, without rocking any boat you need to help do your job of course.

the reason i ask is that most see Terry Westley as a good footballing man who knew his stuff; it appears (and i may be wrong) that he's put forward recommendations, as asked to, then when he's wanted the club to follow through with those recommendations they've shyed away. the upshot is that he's no longer here and our academy facilities are still poor, at best.

with Westley, Aitken and Dunford all leaving the club - each of them with strong roots in the game - what is underlying problem at Blues? because it really looks, to the untrained eye, that there is one.

leave aside the fact that we're trying to run a Premier League club on a Championship budget, it's been eluded to before that there's problems at the heart of the club. well, as part of 'the family' supporters surely deserve their right to know.


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Feb 7 2011, 12:51 PM
Who told him he was being slagged off on here

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I hope no one tips Jerome off

:LOL:

pothead can you rename this thread NEIL MOXLEY since it seems he as turned it into a thread about him and not the OP **thumbup


oh and :wembley2: is neil moxley :ph43r:

**thumbup

:LMAO: nice new title

just i would question "contract issues" he hasnt got any contract to have issues with
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