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Chucho; Yes one of these threads ;)
Topic Started: Mar 21 2011, 11:27 PM (1,319 Views)
.Jake
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Mar 22 2011, 07:47 AM
I don't think it would matter to be honest.

Martins is a similar type of player to Chucho - only he is better and proven in the Premiership. But Big Eck doesn't seem to want to play him.

Martins doesn't tend to pick the ball up from midfield and run forward with it, which is more needed at BCFC because we lack getting the ball to the final 3rd most of the time let alone scoring.
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Mar 22 2011, 11:54 AM
....also, that un-beaten run last season was down to our defence not our attack, something which is mysteriously lacking this season.

No because creating and scoring goals has nothing to do with it, and im sure we would have done so much better this season, we are draw specialists, what more can you say. :banghead:
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Still my favorite player! Get the little guy back!
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It's simple

Im cheaper, better and already local

Eck sign me up
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It's simple

Im cheaper, better and already local

Eck sign me up

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Love the little Dude **thumbup

Bring him back if we stay up **thumbup
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Mar 22 2011, 07:24 AM
Your appearance on Sky showed what a plonker you are......an embarresment to Blues fans all over.

That's really ripe coming from an ultimate Doom Merchant like you :LMAO:

You could make Adolf Hitler look like Mother Terersa

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It still amazes me how so called football followers think Chucho was any good. I will say again what i say in every Chucho thread. He was !"£$. Never in a million years a PL footballer and that is STILL why i will take the opinion of all the coaches, managers and scouts in all the top leagues around the world, and even some of the lesser leagues none of whom have taken him, whilst the odd one on here thinks he was the greatest player ever - especially as he has scored a few in MEXICO. !!!!!!!

Unbelievable. Chucho is carp, hence the reason he still plays whe he does.

Get over him - support what we have now because if we go down, we are in massive trouble as a club.
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I miss the days when I was the only one critisising him and being flamed by everyone for it...if only we all knew then most of you would end up agreeing with me :D
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Anyone and I mean ANYONE that saw him play at least two games at St Andrews will testify that we're desperately missing his mazey runs this season.

Defenders just couldn't tackle him at all.

I think we've struggled this season for the following reasons:

1. Chucho - can't deny it, he was incredible at breaking down defences

2. Joe Hart - Foster is international quality, but he isn't in the same class as Joe... no keeper is.

3. McFadden - another player we desperately miss, he was also capable of doing defenders for fun

4. The league this year is generally much, much tougher.
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Mar 22 2011, 05:42 PM
Anyone and I mean ANYONE that saw him play at least two games at St Andrews will testify that we're desperately missing his mazey runs this season.

Defenders just couldn't tackle him at all.

I think we've struggled this season for the following reasons:

1. Chucho - can't deny it, he was incredible at breaking down defences

2. Joe Hart - Foster is international quality, but he isn't in the same class as Joe... no keeper is.

3. McFadden - another player we desperately miss, he was also capable of doing defenders for fun

4. The league this year is generally much, much tougher.

I saw him every home game and I didnt rate him
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Mar 22 2011, 05:44 PM
PA_nomore!
Mar 22 2011, 05:42 PM
Anyone and I mean ANYONE that saw him play at least two games at St Andrews will testify that we're desperately missing his mazey runs this season.

Defenders just couldn't tackle him at all.

I think we've struggled this season for the following reasons:

1. Chucho - can't deny it, he was incredible at breaking down defences

2. Joe Hart - Foster is international quality, but he isn't in the same class as Joe... no keeper is.

3. McFadden - another player we desperately miss, he was also capable of doing defenders for fun

4. The league this year is generally much, much tougher.

I saw him every home game and I didnt rate him

Pooley we all know about the incident in Burger King, when you sat down at Chuchos table and he told you to F Off ,so your opinion don't count **thumbup :whistle:
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Mar 22 2011, 05:44 PM
PA_nomore!
Mar 22 2011, 05:42 PM
Anyone and I mean ANYONE that saw him play at least two games at St Andrews will testify that we're desperately missing his mazey runs this season.

Defenders just couldn't tackle him at all.

I think we've struggled this season for the following reasons:

1. Chucho - can't deny it, he was incredible at breaking down defences

2. Joe Hart - Foster is international quality, but he isn't in the same class as Joe... no keeper is.

3. McFadden - another player we desperately miss, he was also capable of doing defenders for fun

4. The league this year is generally much, much tougher.

I saw him every home game and I didnt rate him

Me too - every home and most away, and I am desperately trying to remember any 'mazy dribbles'. But I do however remember lots of appalling misses, possibly the worst I have ever seen at St.Andrews, a bloke who was constantly knocked off the ball and just swatted away by defenders and a shot less powerful than my Nans.
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Mar 22 2011, 05:50 PM
Pooley
Mar 22 2011, 05:44 PM
PA_nomore!
Mar 22 2011, 05:42 PM
Anyone and I mean ANYONE that saw him play at least two games at St Andrews will testify that we're desperately missing his mazey runs this season.

Defenders just couldn't tackle him at all.

I think we've struggled this season for the following reasons:

1. Chucho - can't deny it, he was incredible at breaking down defences

2. Joe Hart - Foster is international quality, but he isn't in the same class as Joe... no keeper is.

3. McFadden - another player we desperately miss, he was also capable of doing defenders for fun

4. The league this year is generally much, much tougher.

I saw him every home game and I didnt rate him

Me too - every home and most away, and I am desperately trying to remember any 'mazy dribbles'. But I do however remember lots of appalling misses, possibly the worst I have ever seen at St.Andrews, a bloke who was constantly knocked off the ball and just swatted away by defenders and a shot less powerful than my Nans.

not to menton that gust of wind which kept knocking him over
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Mar 22 2011, 01:39 PM
I miss the days when I was the only one critisising him and being flamed by everyone for it...if only we all knew then most of you would end up agreeing with me :D

Pooley

I remember it well

And fair play to you......you ended up totally vindicated and your opinion at first ended up being pretty much on the money....Brave call but you stuck by your guns :applause:

The crucial fact is that when AM decided he wasn't going to pursue Chucho, no other club in Great Britain or even in Europe (where his style may well have been more beneficial in attack minded Leagues like Holland and Spain) not one single club took the chance on him and now he's back in Mexico....a League about the same standard of our own League One


I'll likely get scalded as well but Roger Johnson and Craig Gardner better get their acts together as well

RJ is a shadow of the defender he was last year.......Whether it's because of the injury forced break up of the partnership with Scott Dann I don't know but the bloke makes me nervous sometimes and I was far from impressed with his glass slapping rant in the dug out when he got pulled off the week

As for Gardner, he's capable of winning the ball and scoring some belters from distance......If one thing Blues have lacked for years it's a 'Gerrard' or 'Parker' type player who can hit the net from well outside the box.....Even Higginbotham at Stoke is finding his range lately ........but just lately Gardner has looked clumsy and cumbersome and his shooting at times is woeful.....he also mistimes challenges too often and gives up possession far too easily in midfield and is one of our biggest culprits in that respect .....keeping possession

Don't get me wrong, I rate the pair of them highly and they are both fighters and grafters which is just what we need right now ......But we need to see a lot better from then as well for the remaining 9 games

KRO
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Mar 22 2011, 06:09 PM
Pooley
Mar 22 2011, 01:39 PM
I miss the days when I was the only one critisising him and being flamed by everyone for it...if only we all knew then most of you would end up agreeing with me :D

Pooley

I remember it well

And fair play to you......you ended up totally vindicated and your opinion at first ended up being pretty much on the money....Brave call but you stuck by your guns :applause:

The crucial fact is that when AM decided he wasn't going to pursue Chucho, no other club in Great Britain or even in Europe (where his style may well have been more beneficial in attack minded Leagues like Holland and Spain) not one single club took the chance on him and now he's back in Mexico....a League about the same standard of our own League One


I'll likely get scalded as well but Roger Joghnson and Craig Gardner better get their acts together as well

RJ is a shadow of the defender he was last year.......Whether it's becasue of the injury forced break up of the partnership with Scot Dann I don't know but the bloke makes me nervous sometimes and I was far from impressed with his glass slapping rant in the dug out when he got pulled off the week

As for Gardner, he's capable of winning the ball and scoring some belters from distance......If one thing Blues have lacked for years it's a Gerrard type player who can hit the net from well outside the box.....Even Higginbotham at Stoke is finding his range lately ........but just lately Gardner has looked clumsy and cumbersome and his shooting at times is woeful.....he also gives up possession far too easily in midfield

Don't get me wrong, I rate the pair of them and they are both fighters and grafters which is just what we need right now ......But we need to see a lot better from then as well for the remaining 9 games

KRO

spot on

last season wasnt down to chucho:

fadds had his most consistant season since he has been with us
larsson put in some great displays - wigan away for one
fergie was immense
joe was immense
johnson was awe inspiring - constant 9 or 10 out of 10 performances, this season he has still shown his ability but been less consistant, not helped by having a different backline and also while I love foster im not so sure he inspires as much confidence as joe did who was very vocal
Dann made a couple of mistakes last season but we get away with most of them (THAT challenge at hull being a big one)
Bowyer was much more consistant than he has been this season
Jerome had a slow start but the goal at liverpool (his first of the season i think) gave him a massive boost of confidence and jerome is a big confidence player
I know he gets sated buy oconnor put in decent performances incuding a very important winning gol v hull (at the time since our start wasnt brilliant tat was a big 3 points)
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Mar 22 2011, 11:18 AM
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Mar 22 2011, 10:46 AM
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Mar 22 2011, 02:59 AM
Jakeee
Mar 21 2011, 07:27 PM
Anyone else think he could have proved a major squad addition this season, especially after not having McFadden we lost all creativity and watch just one tiny clip v Everton last season made me realise that.

Errr !! No

He wasn't any good in the P L


Simples

:LMAO:

Joke of the Week


It's no coincidence that the unbeaten run was when Benitez was in the team.

McLeish hated it though and his injury against Wolves was what he was waiting for. He hardly picked him after that.........and we have been on relegation form ever since.

Flair, skills and natural ability is not McLeish's game. It's running, passion and the dressing room for him............that's why we are 19th.

He declined Benitez and spent the money on Zigic. That about sums him up. He certainly knows how to drive the fans away.

Boring, boring City.

Driving the fans away? Since when did winning silverware "drive the fans away". Grow up, we are paying the price for our carling cup success, and the international break could not have come at a better time for us.

Zigic is a legend. He won us the Quarter Final, won us the Semi Final and is the ONLY blues player ever to score at the new Wembley (martins is on loan). The guy has got SO many important goals, and is probably the sole reason why we aren't bottom of the league.

You never have anything positive to say about the blues. Even when we won the cup you just stayed away for a few weeks rather than joining in the celebrations. If you want success and safety then go join the thousands of man united glory hunters. Theres a difference between constructive criticism of our players, managers and board, and just plain negativity and pessimism. If anything the Joke of the Week is you :banghead:

You make an important point. Zigic does seem to have the habit of scoring in vital situations. If only we could get him fit I would start him in all the remaining games and give Phillips a try alongside him.
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What people should note, regardless of whether people think Chucho was God or Satan, is that last season, our midfield scored a lot of goals, and generally had a lot of chances.

A major part of the reason was Chucho's ability to keep the ball with close control (not mazy runs so much) and draw defenders who were scared to make a real challenge on him. Often he'd simply lay the ball off to a midfielder who was now free as a result.

Lee Bowyer's winner against West Ham was the best example. Chucho with the ball, defenders all around him, he laid it off to a free Bowyer who buried it.
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Mar 22 2011, 05:38 PM
It still amazes me how so called football followers think Chucho was any good. I will say again what i say in every Chucho thread. He was !"£$. Never in a million years a PL footballer and that is STILL why i will take the opinion of all the coaches, managers and scouts in all the top leagues around the world, and even some of the lesser leagues none of whom have taken him, whilst the odd one on here thinks he was the greatest player ever - especially as he has scored a few in MEXICO. !!!!!!!

Unbelievable. Chucho is carp, hence the reason he still plays whe he does.

Get over him - support what we have now because if we go down, we are in massive trouble as a club.


Totally agree - how many 'simple' chances did he have but fluffed
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Caveman49
Mar 22 2011, 05:38 PM
It still amazes me how so called football followers think Chucho was any good. I will say again what i say in every Chucho thread. He was !"£$. Never in a million years a PL footballer and that is STILL why i will take the opinion of all the coaches, managers and scouts in all the top leagues around the world, and even some of the lesser leagues none of whom have taken him, whilst the odd one on here thinks he was the greatest player ever - especially as he has scored a few in MEXICO. !!!!!!! 

Unbelievable.  Chucho is carp, hence the reason he still plays whe he does.

Get over him - support what we have now because if we go down, we are in massive trouble as a club.


Totally agree - how many 'simple' chances did he have but fluffed

I liked him and so do a lot of tv pundits that have watched us over the last 2 seasons.


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Caveman49
Mar 22 2011, 05:38 PM
It still amazes me how so called football followers think Chucho was any good. I will say again what i say in every Chucho thread. He was !"£$. Never in a million years a PL footballer and that is STILL why i will take the opinion of all the coaches, managers and scouts in all the top leagues around the world, and even some of the lesser leagues none of whom have taken him, whilst the odd one on here thinks he was the greatest player ever - especially as he has scored a few in MEXICO. !!!!!!!  

Unbelievable.   Chucho is carp, hence the reason he still plays whe he does.

Get over him - support what we have now because if we go down, we are in massive trouble as a club.


Totally agree - how many 'simple' chances did he have but fluffed

I liked him and so do a lot of tv pundits that have watched us over the last 2 seasons.

Yes but when it comes to putting money where their mouth is no one is interested. When we decided against buying him how many other teams went in for him? I will give u a clue, it was between -1 and 1. A good player commands attention and transfer talk. The only person interested in.chucho was Sullivan on loan. As good as messi we were told lol.
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Mar 26 2011, 11:38 AM
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Mar 26 2011, 10:01 AM
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Mar 22 2011, 05:38 PM
It still amazes me how so called football followers think Chucho was any good. I will say again what i say in every Chucho thread. He was !"£$. Never in a million years a PL footballer and that is STILL why i will take the opinion of all the coaches, managers and scouts in all the top leagues around the world, and even some of the lesser leagues none of whom have taken him, whilst the odd one on here thinks he was the greatest player ever - especially as he has scored a few in MEXICO. !!!!!!!  

Unbelievable.   Chucho is carp, hence the reason he still plays whe he does.

Get over him - support what we have now because if we go down, we are in massive trouble as a club.


Totally agree - how many 'simple' chances did he have but fluffed

I liked him and so do a lot of tv pundits that have watched us over the last 2 seasons.

Yes but when it comes to putting money where their mouth is no one is interested. When we decided against buying him how many other teams went in for him? I will give u a clue, it was between -1 and 1. A good player commands attention and transfer talk. The only person interested in.chucho was Sullivan on loan. As good as messi we were told lol.

What figure do you think, if any, we would have brought him?

Personally I think around the 3m mark.
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Mar 26 2011, 12:57 PM
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Mar 26 2011, 11:38 AM
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Mar 26 2011, 10:01 AM
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Mar 25 2011, 08:30 PM
Caveman49
Mar 22 2011, 05:38 PM
It still amazes me how so called football followers think Chucho was any good. I will say again what i say in every Chucho thread. He was !"£$. Never in a million years a PL footballer and that is STILL why i will take the opinion of all the coaches, managers and scouts in all the top leagues around the world, and even some of the lesser leagues none of whom have taken him, whilst the odd one on here thinks he was the greatest player ever - especially as he has scored a few in MEXICO. !!!!!!!  

Unbelievable.   Chucho is carp, hence the reason he still plays whe he does.

Get over him - support what we have now because if we go down, we are in massive trouble as a club.


Totally agree - how many 'simple' chances did he have but fluffed

I liked him and so do a lot of tv pundits that have watched us over the last 2 seasons.

Yes but when it comes to putting money where their mouth is no one is interested. When we decided against buying him how many other teams went in for him? I will give u a clue, it was between -1 and 1. A good player commands attention and transfer talk. The only person interested in.chucho was Sullivan on loan. As good as messi we were told lol.

What figure do you think, if any, we would have brought him?

Personally I think around the 3m mark.

I just dont tink eck rated him, I dont think eck would have bought him full stop.
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