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Jerome Will Get Better.; Feed the Jer and he will score.
Topic Started: Apr 5 2011, 05:50 PM (1,595 Views)
djmmusic
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thehod
Apr 6 2011, 06:59 PM
At what point was his chance on Saturday "a sitter"?

There is no-one, no-one, in our squad at the moment who would've been able to get close to that ball.

The ball was moving fast, Jerome was moving fast, the keeper was moving fast. He didn't do well with it, don't get me wrong, but it was far from being a sitter.

Had it been anyone else, anyone at all, they wouldn't have got half the stick Jerome does.

But Blues fans must have their sacrificial lamb to slaughter, at currently it appears to be him.

Strikers always carry the biggest burden of expectation and I think as he starts at least 2/3's of our games in the league its inevitable that people expect something in return.
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abblue
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Over the past few seasons he has scored thus:

Cardiff 7 goals in 22 appearances, 20 in 47;
Blues 9 in 26, 7 in 21, 10 in 26, 10 in 36

- an average of not far off 1 goal every 3 matches.

This season 5 in 28.

Is he having an off season - or is he being used incorrectly ?
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Ainslii
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Wow.... more negative rubbish in a post about how negativity is brining him down. Well thats sure to help....

Yeah he missed the sitter, But did you see the speed he was running? he was completely off balance, and had that thing happen where you start to lose control from running too fast.

And then comparing him to philips? He's an amazing finisher with around 15 years more experience than jerome.

But you know, nothing anyone can say will stop anyone from moaning about him, or anyone for that matter. he had a great game saturday and some people are just determined to not see his good performances.
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pooley
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Fernando torres has not scored in 9 games. All strikers have baron patches as fans it is partly out responsibility to help him keep his confidence through our support, partly the managers responsibility to help him keep his head up and also partly his own responsibility to show mental strength and push on to regain his form.
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Bobby
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pooley
Apr 7 2011, 05:57 AM
Fernando torres has not scored in 9 games. All strikers have baron patches as fans it is partly out responsibility to help him keep his confidence through our support, partly the managers responsibility to help him keep his head up and also partly his own responsibility to show mental strength and push on to regain his form.

i would not swop him for Torres.
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PA_nomore!
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He had a good game last week and came up with some individual moments of excellence....

Long may it continue!
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Jo1875
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At nearly every game when the moans start about Cameron missing sitters, I have been there and then watched them back at home, and its rare I agree. I know he is fast, but to get to some of the balls he would in fact have to be Linford on speed.

Cameron constantly works hard, and is ... most of the time in the right place, he doesnt score many, but he does create chances.

I cant believe he hasnt even got a song, that alone would annoy the hell out of me.... we had a song for ziggy within 2 weeks.

I dont care who you are, the more you feel appreciated, the more you try, maybe we dont help him as much as we should.
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BigJohn_SOTV
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Apr 6 2011, 06:59 PM
At what point was his chance on Saturday "a sitter"?

There is no-one, no-one, in our squad at the moment who would've been able to get close to that ball.

The ball was moving fast, Jerome was moving fast, the keeper was moving fast. He didn't do well with it, don't get me wrong, but it was far from being a sitter.

Had it been anyone else, anyone at all, they wouldn't have got half the stick Jerome does.

But Blues fans must have their sacrificial lamb to slaughter, at currently it appears to be him.

It wasn't a sitter.. but for a premier leauge level stiker it was a good chance.

The difference between Jerome and an intelligent striker say Phillips, or even Derbyshire ( who took a similar chance against Millwall in the F.A cup ) is that they know from the goalkeepers positioning, the speed of the ball, the distance to goal, what type of finish is required.. it required a side footed lob over the keeper, not trying to play it down the side of an on rushing keeper who has just narrowed down the angle significantly.. He tryed something similar against Villa in the Carling cup, with the same outcome.

It's alright saying that he can get onto balls that nobody else can in the team can... but what good is that if he doesn't know what to do when he gets there??

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djclan
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Apr 5 2011, 09:08 PM
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Apr 5 2011, 07:52 PM
Who needs away fans when you all slag off our own players, i dispair.
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No not slagging, just debating on this 'debating site'
I realy do not think he is good enough to start every week, I blame Mcleish for over use of him and not giving the others (KP) a fair chance.
He missed a sitter on Say but, I said the guys around me he was much better than usual and under less pressure with Kevin Phillips out there.
BIG ECK.LEARN...please :rolleyes:

well said :applause:
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i love jerome his work rate is second to none his pace frightens the hell out of any defender in this league yes his scoring and ability to score is questionable but having said that a few years back when we paid like 6million for heskey all he did there was stand there and he also missed a good few sitters
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.Jake
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I fancy him to score on the weekend, with Hleb back in the side he can pick out a brilliant pass for a Jerome tap in (not being nasty/slating him).
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Apr 5 2011, 05:50 PM
Fed up with the constant moaning at Jerome, no wonder he feels disheartened when he can hear the groans and moans all the time, the lad is a good player but just does not get the service that a striker needs, we do not score many goals because the forwards have nothing to feed off...get of his back and cheer him and you might be surprised.

This is a joke right?

He is NOT a striker who scores goals...FACT.

He is a grafter.

He craps himself when it's time to shoot.

...but I have a soft spot for him and will always cheer him on so as long as he tries he will always have my support.
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Apr 6 2011, 11:46 PM
Over the past few seasons he has scored thus:

Cardiff 7 goals in 22 appearances, 20 in 47;
Blues 9 in 26, 7 in 21, 10 in 26, 10 in 36

- an average of not far off 1 goal every 3 matches.

This season 5 in 28.

Is he having an off season - or is he being used incorrectly ?

Jerome's record for Birmingham in the LEAGUE is 37 goals in 173 games. Thats 1 in 5.

This season in the league, he has 3 goals in 27(4 as sub) games. 1 in 9.

Last season was the best we will see from him, which was 10 goals in 32 games. 1 in 3.

Zigic has 5 in 25, but 12 of those have been as a sub.

Jerome can't finish. Every one on one he gets he fluffs. Please no-one tell me it wasn't a sitter, because it was, and to be honest, it was a terrible finish. I wish I recorded all of his poor efforts down.

Yeah, Torres hasn't scored in 9 games, but he is in a team where he can do that. However, when he does score, don't write him off scoring 10 in 10 or a hat-trick and changing a game.

The sad fact is, Jerome will never be a Premier League striker, without a massive amount of coaching he might be. Stick him on the wing where he might actually be useful.

If I am a Premier League manager, i don't pay my strikers £20K a week for running. We may aswell sign Marlon Devonish, he'd probably be better in front of goal aswell.
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thehod
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Apr 7 2011, 08:20 PM
Please no-one tell me it wasn't a sitter, because it was, and to be honest, it was a terrible finish.

It wasn't a sitter. Not even close.

Martins was a sitter. Jerome's was a chance, and a half a one at best.

And can we please stop saying that Jerome isn't a Premier League striker, because he's scored 20 goals in 92 Premiership appearances, which makes him our highest Premiership scorer outside of the Forse.

So yes, by definition, he is a Premiership striker, so can we knock it off saying that he isn't now?
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Apr 7 2011, 07:39 AM
pooley
Apr 7 2011, 05:57 AM
Fernando torres has not scored in 9 games. All strikers have baron patches as fans it is partly out responsibility to help him keep his confidence through our support, partly the managers responsibility to help him keep his head up and also partly his own responsibility to show mental strength and push on to regain his form.

i would not swop him for Torres.

I flaming well would what a daft statement to make, Cj is a Blues player so gets my support but he aint in the same league as Torres
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Torres looks like a broken footballer at the moment.
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curlyminogue
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Apr 9 2011, 09:40 AM
Torres looks like a broken footballer at the moment.

Unless he scores Torres can often look like a broken footballer. Back on subject jerome has a good record against Blackburn so let's hopes he maitains it today.
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curlyminogue
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Moderaters, isn't this getting a bit silly? If I were some Viler waiting for an opportunity to print some juvenile drivel about Blues surely I wouldn't know about Ashley Sammons goal against Liverpol Youth or Jerome's relatively good scoring record against Blackburn. I appreciate you have to take precautions but I think you're overegging the omelette a tad.
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Bobby
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Apr 9 2011, 09:40 AM
Torres looks like a broken footballer at the moment.

He looks like a pub player in a good side to be honest.....big mistake.
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Apr 7 2011, 10:14 PM
bcfcno1fan
Apr 7 2011, 08:20 PM
Please no-one tell me it wasn't a sitter, because it was, and to be honest, it was a terrible finish.

It wasn't a sitter. Not even close.

Martins was a sitter. Jerome's was a chance, and a half a one at best.

And can we please stop saying that Jerome isn't a Premier League striker, because he's scored 20 goals in 92 Premiership appearances, which makes him our highest Premiership scorer outside of the Forse.

So yes, by definition, he is a Premiership striker, so can we knock it off saying that he isn't now?

Ok, not an absolute sitter, but most Premier League strikers would've ate if for breakfast.

He doesnt even look confident when presented with an opportunity, he looks nervous, and either scuffs it, or poorly finishes. He missed a similar one against Villa in the cup.

Yes, and last season is the best we will see from him, 11 goals, i highly doubt he will ever score that many again for us.

Im sure he is a really nice chap, but one goal every 9 games this season is appauling.


Lets do some statistics this season.

Jerome 3 in 27 ------ 48 shots
Zigic 5 in 25 ------- 30 shots

Look, im not saying he didnt play his part last year, but I think Zigic will improve next year even more, and we need someone to play along side him. Jerome is not the man.

Maybe turn him into a winger, he would be alot more use there I think.
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slav
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He tries hard everybody loves a tryer but,he is on big money to score goals thats his job,everybody has sympathy for him but he has missed so many one on ones and chances its unbelievable,it could cost us,at times its embarrasing,we need to move on from him next season unless we are in the championship.
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Apr 9 2011, 06:45 PM
He tries hard everybody loves a tryer but,he is on big money to score goals thats his job,everybody has sympathy for him but he has missed so many one on ones and chances its unbelievable,it could cost us,at times its embarrasing,we need to move on from him next season unless we are in the championship.

Agree
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Well said. There is no doubt he runs his legs off for the cause.

However, we do need to move on next year. He can be a 20 minute man, or a winger.
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sorry, but after today................still not up to prem standard.................useless in fact!!
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thehod
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Apr 10 2011, 01:08 AM
sorry, but after today................still not up to prem standard.................useless in fact!!

Considering Kevin Phillips said Jerome had a great game yesterday, and he's played the game for about fifty years, we can safetly consider your opinion to be devoid of any validity whatsoever.
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