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Eck And West Ham
Topic Started: May 25 2011, 06:26 AM (780 Views)
Mallam
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No way would the fans of West Ham allow Eck to become their manager, I have been looking at their forum"knees up mother brown" and the mention of Mcleish going there has them spitting nails in disgust at the mention, have a look it is quite funny.
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PartisanBCFC
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It's not up to the fans to decide

Forum Power and Anti McLeish campaigns might be flavour of the month here right now but are you deluded enough to think the 'powers that be' look at any input from here ??


:LMAO:
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Lucky
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I believe that if any club came in for Alex the board would see it as a way of getting rid,if the club coughed up the right compensation then they would be happy,
Not sure what WHU would make of Alex and his tactics though.
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Mallam
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May 25 2011, 06:31 AM
It's not up to the fans to decide

Forum Power and Anti McLeish campaigns might be flavour of the month here right now but are you deluded enough to think the 'powers that be' look at any input from here ??


:LMAO:

Of course the club takes notice of the fans...."Bowyer" :dancer:
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Mallam
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Lucky
May 25 2011, 06:40 AM
I believe that if any club came in for Alex the board would see it as a way of getting rid,if the club coughed up the right compensation then they would be happy,
Not sure what WHU would make of Alex and his tactics though.

The fans would riot and make an already unpopular board even more hated....no chance of him going which is a pity. :(
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Lucky
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Mallam
May 25 2011, 06:44 AM
Lucky
May 25 2011, 06:40 AM
I believe that if any club came in for Alex the board would see it as a way of getting rid,if the club coughed up the right compensation then they would be happy,
Not sure what WHU would make of Alex and his tactics though.

The fans would riot and make an already unpopular board even more hated....no chance of him going which is a pity. :(

So diddy Dave is unpopular,
Never.
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tony123
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May 25 2011, 06:40 AM
I believe that if any club came in for Alex the board would see it as a way of getting rid,if the club coughed up the right compensation then they would be happy,
Not sure what WHU would make of Alex and his tactics though.


How do you know Alex McLeish didnt tender his resignation?

It wouldnt surprise me if he said:
"I would like to stay but I will go if you wish it".

Maybe the board didnt accept his resignation because it wasnt in the bests interests of Birmingham City did you ever think that.

In case you didnt know Sam Allardyce played long ball with Bolton to Kevin Davies for years before they got established in the premier league not the most exciting stuff. Stoke's football hasnt particularly been brazilianesque. However the ends have justified the means and as they have begun to establish themselves the quality of personnel and football has begun to improve.

:blues:



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Mallam
May 25 2011, 02:42 AM
PartisanBCFC
May 25 2011, 06:31 AM
It's not up to the fans to decide

Forum Power and Anti McLeish campaigns might be flavour of the month here right now but are you deluded enough to think the 'powers that be' look at any input from here ?? 


:LMAO:

Of course the club takes notice of the fans...."Bowyer" :dancer:

That was through a presented petition tough

Not an internet chat site


:silence:

And guess what.....sometime later Bowyer signed for us.....no problems at all
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Tony, what planet are you on, feller? If McLeish had so much as hinted that he was prepared to resign the board would have had him out the office before the ink had dried on the agreement. McLeish is a loser who has retained his position because he has shafted the club so thoroughly that they can't even afford to sack him.
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.Jake
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curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 07:04 AM
Tony, what planet are you on, feller? If McLeish had so much as hinted that he was prepared to resign the board would have had him out the office before the ink had dried on the agreement. McLeish is a loser who has retained his position because he has shafted the club so thoroughly that they can't even afford to sack him.

Or maybe they thought he was slightly unlucky?
We have had a minimum of 11 injuries this year and with the amount of games we played with both cup runs, it hasn't been easy, also a lot of the time, it has been the team that has not done the job, not McLeish's tactics, a lot of silly mistakes in sending off's and goals, and stupid early goals, McLeish can't account for all this aswell. As a team we have underperformed too often.
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curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 03:04 AM
Tony, what planet are you on, feller? If McLeish had so much as hinted that he was prepared to resign the board would have had him out the office before the ink had dried on the agreement.

And your astute wisdom and inside knowledge of how the St Andrews hierarchy act and think tells you this, eh ?? :LMAO:




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McLeish is a loser who has retained his position because he has shafted the club so thoroughly that they can't even afford to sack him. 


Sounds more of a winner to me then :o

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tony123
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May 25 2011, 07:04 AM
Tony, what planet are you on, feller? If McLeish had so much as hinted that he was prepared to resign the board would have had him out the office before the ink had dried on the agreement. McLeish is a loser who has retained his position because he has shafted the club so thoroughly that they can't even afford to sack him.


Oh Come on your argument isnt even logical and you have contradicted yourself and changed tune over and over.

Firstly you called for the board to sack him because we were relegated.

Now the board have not decided to go with this recommendation you have jumped on the supposition that it is because they cant afford to. You have no actual basis of fact to back this claim up have you.

How much would McLeish's contract be to pay off 6-8m maybe tops probably less more like 4-5m, maybe less.

Well if you have an organisation which you invested 50m+ in and you find out you have a useless manager and you must get rid of him. Yeung could get the readies required by selling players. If he sold Foster for 8-10m he could pay off McLeish get another keeper and another manager probably. Selling Zigic as well would more than provide what is required.

His club would be secure because he has removed the so called useless manager. It hasnt cost him anything. Yes he has lost an England class goalkeeper and maybe another player but that doesnt really compare with stopping the so called peril this club is in at the hands of McLeish.

Your point of view doesnt stack up does it? It isnt remotely sensible really is it?
It contains no actual credibility at all.

I hope McLeish can surprise you and play more expansive, attacking football while maintaining the solidity in defence his side has. You have taken the view this is all he can do. I believe we were work in progress and he is capable of bringing more to Birmingham City than you have seen so far.

The board have chosen to continue to work with McLeish. Providng they work with him and he gets the players he thinks he needs I believe he will do a good job. McLeish understands the business side of football. He will make his recommendations to the board and will be able to venture quite accurately what he can achieve with the side he has in August. But for a lack of fitness with too many key players this year we would have stayed in the premier league.

We will see who was right between your judgement and mine in the season to come.

:blues:
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curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 07:04 AM
Tony, what planet are you on, feller? If McLeish had so much as hinted that he was prepared to resign the board would have had him out the office before the ink had dried on the agreement. McLeish is a loser who has retained his position because he has shafted the club so thoroughly that they can't even afford to sack him.

correct. That after match interview where he was so smug saying he ain't going anywhere as he has a contract was a kick in the teeth.

I am undecided, is he:
another Gordon Brown - stubborn and Scottish and refusing to go?
or
another Fabio Capello - a manager who shafts a weak board for a contract extension before a catastrophic failure?



(although Capello has only failed once, the twice-failed one has failed three times - if you include his 3rd place for Rangers in 2005)
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Tony, as far predictions go I think I'm in a 10-0 lead going into half time. In Eck YOU trust.
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tony123
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May 25 2011, 08:18 AM
curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 07:04 AM
Tony, what planet are you on, feller? If McLeish had so much as hinted that he was prepared to resign the board would have had him out the office before the ink had dried on the agreement. McLeish is a loser who has retained his position because he has shafted the club so thoroughly that they can't even afford to sack him.

correct. That after match interview where he was so smug saying he ain't going anywhere as he has a contract was a kick in the teeth.

I am undecided, is he:
another Gordon Brown - stubborn and Scottish and refusing to go?
or
another Fabio Capello - a manager who shafts a weak board for a contract extension before a catastrophic failure?



(although Capello has only failed once, the twice-failed one has failed three times - if you include his 3rd place for Rangers in 2005)


He has every reason to be smug he has a better record at Birmingham City than any other Blues manager in 50 years.

You may not like this FACT but it is true nonetheless.

**thumbup
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curlyminogue
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It is not a FACT- it is an OPINION. (Learn to spot the difference FGS!)
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curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 08:33 AM
It is not a FACT- it is an OPINION. (Learn to spot the difference FGS!)


Look at the records mate of what the club has done with McLeish in charge.

Promoted from championship first time.
Longest unbeaten run in top division.
Unbeaten at home in 12 months.
Highest premier league finish.
Carling cup winners 2011 first major wembley trophy in 136 years.

...This isnt opinion this is FACT.
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tony123
May 25 2011, 08:31 AM
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May 25 2011, 08:18 AM
curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 07:04 AM
Tony, what planet are you on, feller? If McLeish had so much as hinted that he was prepared to resign the board would have had him out the office before the ink had dried on the agreement. McLeish is a loser who has retained his position because he has shafted the club so thoroughly that they can't even afford to sack him.

correct. That after match interview where he was so smug saying he ain't going anywhere as he has a contract was a kick in the teeth.

I am undecided, is he:
another Gordon Brown - stubborn and Scottish and refusing to go?
or
another Fabio Capello - a manager who shafts a weak board for a contract extension before a catastrophic failure?



(although Capello has only failed once, the twice-failed one has failed three times - if you include his 3rd place for Rangers in 2005)


He has every reason to be smug he has a better record at Birmingham City than any other Blues manager in 50 years.

You may not like this FACT but it is true nonetheless.

**thumbup

FACT - 2 relegations in 3 years
FACT[subjective, I know] - the most negative and boring football I have witnessed from Blues since 1962.

Just what planet are you on tony123?

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tony123
May 25 2011, 08:53 AM
curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 08:33 AM
It is not a FACT- it is an OPINION. (Learn to spot the difference FGS!)


Look at the records mate of what the club has won with McLeish in charge.

Promoted from championship first time.
Longest unbeaten run in top division.
Unbeaten at home in 12 months.
Highest premier league finish.
Carling cup winners 2011 first major wembley trophy in 136 years.

...This isnt opinion this is FACT.

Relegated from Premiership first time out.
Blues biggest spender by far.
2nd relegation in 3.5 years. (The only manager in Blues history to have managed that if memory serves)
2nd manager to win League Cup. (Not the first as you erroneously claim)
12 months unbeaten home run. (mostly draws)
13 match unbeaten run in P. (mostly draws)
lowest goalscorers in Prem 2010-11.
9 wins in 49 premiership games.
the unanimous winner of the Curlyminogue bore of the century award.
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curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 09:04 AM
tony123
May 25 2011, 08:53 AM
curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 08:33 AM
It is not a FACT- it is an OPINION. (Learn to spot the difference FGS!)


Look at the records mate of what the club has won with McLeish in charge.

Promoted from championship first time.
Longest unbeaten run in top division.
Unbeaten at home in 12 months.
Highest premier league finish.
Carling cup winners 2011 first major wembley trophy in 136 years.

...This isnt opinion this is FACT.

Relegated from Premiership first time out.
Blues biggest spender by far.
2nd relegation in 3.5 years. (The only manager in Blues history to have managed that if memory serves)
2nd manager to win League Cup. (Not the first as you erroneously claim)
12 months unbeaten home run. (mostly draws)
13 match unbeaten run in P. (mostly draws)
lowest goalscorers in Prem 2010-11.
9 wins in 49 premiership games.
the unanimous winner of the Curlyminogue bore of the century award.

Great FACTS curlyminogue.

Do you think fans will be in tony123's corner ie 20k ST sales and 28,000 for the first home game, or do you think the fans are not deluded and there will be less than 10k ST holders and barely 16k at the next home game? Surely if tony is right with all his facts we will be selling out and be in an out of town new stadium within three years.



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Its the 'Glass full or half empty' situation ^.
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Apologies, Tony! I see you decided to add a little gloss to the mighter conqueror-of-Brentford-on-pens' portfolio by correctly pointing out that it was our first WEMBLEY triumph in 136 years. (No matter that the first final didn't take place until 1923- still every little bit helps, as they say)
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May 25 2011, 09:03 AM
tony123
May 25 2011, 08:31 AM
SHA007
May 25 2011, 08:18 AM
curlyminogue
May 25 2011, 07:04 AM
Tony, what planet are you on, feller? If McLeish had so much as hinted that he was prepared to resign the board would have had him out the office before the ink had dried on the agreement. McLeish is a loser who has retained his position because he has shafted the club so thoroughly that they can't even afford to sack him.

correct. That after match interview where he was so smug saying he ain't going anywhere as he has a contract was a kick in the teeth.

I am undecided, is he:
another Gordon Brown - stubborn and Scottish and refusing to go?
or
another Fabio Capello - a manager who shafts a weak board for a contract extension before a catastrophic failure?



(although Capello has only failed once, the twice-failed one has failed three times - if you include his 3rd place for Rangers in 2005)


He has every reason to be smug he has a better record at Birmingham City than any other Blues manager in 50 years.

You may not like this FACT but it is true nonetheless.

**thumbup

FACT - 2 relegations in 3 years
FACT[subjective, I know] - the most negative and boring football I have witnessed from Blues since 1962.

Just what planet are you on tony123?


Im on earth mate.

Yes he did preside over 2 relegations in 3 years. The first he shared responsibility for along with Bruce and it was not his squad.

The second he was the manager in charge.

As we all know both relegations occurred on the smallest of margins. This year McLeish was particularly unlucky with lack of fitness from key forwards and crucially during the run in as well as having 10 players on the pitch for 3 of the last 4 games.

Standard of football:

Again missing key fowards from a side forces a manager to play less expansive football in the hope they can continue to compete while they get key players back fit.

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R Kid
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Pannu should call the Gullivans and see if they are interested, no compo, just take him FFS!
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May 25 2011, 07:03 AM
Mallam
May 25 2011, 02:42 AM
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May 25 2011, 06:31 AM
It's not up to the fans to decide

Forum Power and Anti McLeish campaigns might be flavour of the month here right now but are you deluded enough to think the 'powers that be' look at any input from here ?? 


:LMAO:

Of course the club takes notice of the fans...."Bowyer" :dancer:

That was through a presented petition tough

Not an internet chat site


:silence:

And guess what.....sometime later Bowyer signed for us.....no problems at all

And what Mallam is ignoring is the fact that it was Bowyer that changed his mind about signing following that debacle, not the club!
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