Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to bcfcforum.co.uk. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Alex Mcleish; Board may want him to leave !
Topic Started: May 25 2011, 07:06 PM (880 Views)
Bobby Blue 50
Martin Grainger
[ *  *  * ]
I believe if we had stayed up McLeish would have been sacked and as a Premier club we could have attracted another manager. I feel the sacking of Paul Montgomery is stage one of The Board trying to get McLeish to leave without having to pay compensation for a five year contract.
Reason Montgomery stayed loyal to McLeish in January when Chelsea were after him & now they are testing McLeish's "loyalty"
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
blue casual
Member Avatar
Frank Worthington
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
This is not the way to run a football club. If they wanted him out that badly they should of just bit the bullet and paid him off.

These forthcoming summer months are set to be one of the busiest periods of transfer activity in the clubs history, sacking the chief scout now is madness.

If your suspicions are true then the board must not only be skint but out of rational ideas in how to sustain the club's best interests, and worrying times lay ahead.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
thehod
Mikael Forssell
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Bobby Blue 50
May 25 2011, 07:06 PM
I believe if we had stayed up McLeish would have been sacked and as a Premier club we could have attracted another manager. I feel the sacking of Paul Montgomery is stage one of The Board trying to get McLeish to leave without having to pay compensation for a five year contract.
Reason Montgomery stayed loyal to McLeish in January when Chelsea were after him & now they are testing McLeish's "loyalty"

Jesus, silly season has well and truely started, hasn't it.

I know I'm going to get calluses typing this out every five minutes, but do you have any evidence whatsoever that anything remotely approaching what you're suggesting is going on at board level, or it it just some ideal speculation that you pulled out of thin air?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
blueblood
Johnny Vincent
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I think they're soon to find out they've picked on the wrong man if thait s their tactic.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
bluenoseghag
Member Avatar
Geoff Horsfield
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Given how the season turned out the board need a scapegoat. Montgomery is the easy target, when Nzogbia backtracked on deadline day Montgomery said no and he's paid the price.

Don't agree with it, but the board have to cover themselves and this is how they've chosen to do it. There's gonna be lots of speculation, rumours and ideas flying around till the season starts or Mcleish goes.

I hope you're wrong, because if true it would make the gullivans look like model owners
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Federico
Paul Devlin
[ *  * ]
Firing Alex Mcleish right hand man Paul Montgomery is a way for the board to cut the wings of Alex and undermine him. Ultimately its there way of making him leave without having to pay him!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
PartisanBCFC
Member Avatar
Jack Wiseman
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas; you've just crossed over into.... Another thread about Big Eck "no" :banghead:





Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
.Jake
Member Avatar
Nikola Zigic
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
PartisanBCFC
May 25 2011, 07:32 PM
You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas; you've just crossed over into.... Another thread about Big Eck "no" :banghead:





Posted Image

:LMAO: Not much else to moan about though is there?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Willie
Member Avatar
Willie
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Federico
May 25 2011, 08:26 PM
Firing Alex Mcleish right hand man Paul Montgomery is a way for the board to cut the wings of Alex and undermine him. Ultimately its there way of making him leave without having to pay him!

I think if they wanted to fire him they would do so in a far more grown up way than you suggest.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kyle-KRO
Member Avatar
Ian Handysides
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
It's as if the board felt they must take some sort of countermeasure following relegation where someone had to be made a patsy, and since they've already given clemency to AMc, they've decided to hold the chief scout responsible as a signal to supporters that they've discovered the source of the problem and have now dealt with it... To me it's simply an action taken for the sake of taking an action, and a awful error in judgement at that. We'll not do any better than Montgomery for some time. :angry:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
stanwood
Peter Enckelman
[ *  *  * ]
PartisanBCFC
May 25 2011, 07:32 PM
You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas; you've just crossed over into.... Another thread about Big Eck "no" :banghead:





Posted Image

Silly sausage
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
.Jake
Member Avatar
Nikola Zigic
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
stanwood
May 25 2011, 07:35 PM
PartisanBCFC
May 25 2011, 07:32 PM
You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas; you've just crossed over into.... Another thread about Big Eck   "no"  :banghead:





Posted Image

Silly sausage

Don't do it! You'll get banned! :o :LOL:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
PartisanBCFC
Member Avatar
Jack Wiseman
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Jakeee
May 25 2011, 03:36 PM
stanwood
May 25 2011, 07:35 PM
PartisanBCFC
May 25 2011, 07:32 PM
You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas; you've just crossed over into.... Another thread about Big Eck   "no"  :banghead:





Posted Image

Silly sausage

Don't do it! You'll get banned! :o :LOL:

Well that could be a positive :D



----------------------
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
PartisanBCFC
Member Avatar
Jack Wiseman
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Jakeee
May 25 2011, 03:33 PM
  Not much else to moan about though is there?


Look on the brighter side


Ian Holloway, Mick McCarthy, Roberto Martinez, Steve Kean or Avram Grant will definitely not become the new Blues manager



**thumbup
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
blue casual
Member Avatar
Frank Worthington
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Kyle-KRO
May 25 2011, 07:35 PM
It's as if the board felt they must take some sort of countermeasure following relegation where someone had to be made a patsy, and since they've already given clemency to AMc, they've decided to hold the chief scout responsible as a signal to supporters that they've discovered the source of the problem and have now dealt with it... To me it's simply an action taken for the sake of taking an action, and a awful error in judgement at that. We'll not do any better than Montgomery for some time.  :angry:

Exactly, how he can be made culpable for the relegation is beyond me considering what he had to work with...

Quote:
 
Birmingham City are updating their European scouting network - described as 'prehistoric' by chief scout Paul Montgomery.

Montgomery has been flying all over the continent to check out potential January signings for manager Alex McLeish, who has also accompanied him when he gets the chance.

But Blues are now ready to take the next step towards competing with the established Euro shoppers like Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Everton by getting their own men in place.

"I have had a meeting with the new chief executive, Michael Dunford, and he has been positive," said Montgomery.

"I'm hoping to add two or three guys in Europe to be scouting there for us, as opposed to having to do it all myself.

"I have had people in myself in the past, for Newcastle and West Ham, but it hasn't happened here.

"At Birmingham it has been a bit prehistoric, the scouting. However, now we need to look forward and we need to, as the manager says, create a new infrastructure. Rome wasn't built in a day and we will take each step as it comes.

"We are looking to have two or three guys based in Europe because there has only been myself who has had to do everything, apart from the four guys I have in different areas of the UK. When it comes to Europe it has been myself and the back-up of the manager and coaches."
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The Yeung Pretenders
Member Avatar
Geoff Horsfield
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
The Board are trying to address the off the field problems and they think a sacking will send a strong message to the rest of the staff that they do not accept failure. Not sure that they are threatening McLeish but reminding him that he has to achieve success.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kyle-KRO
Member Avatar
Ian Handysides
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
The Yeung Pretenders
May 25 2011, 07:43 PM
The Board are trying to address the off the field problems and they think a sacking will send a strong message to the rest of the staff that they do not accept failure. Not sure that they are threatening McLeish but reminding him that he has to achieve success.

And now he'll have to achieve that success without the aid of one of his greatest assets... The person charged with finding talent. :blink:

It's cutting off the nose to spite the face.



Blue casual,

I'm in complete agreement with you... It's a farce of a decision.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Deleted User
Deleted User

Kyle-KRO
May 25 2011, 07:47 PM
The Yeung Pretenders
May 25 2011, 07:43 PM
The Board are trying to address the off the field problems and they think a sacking will send a strong message to the rest of the staff that they do not accept failure. Not sure that they are threatening McLeish but reminding him that he  has to achieve success.

And now he'll have to achieve that success without the aid of one of his greatest assets... The person charged with finding talent. :blink:

It's cutting off the nose to spite the face.



Blue casual,

I'm in complete agreement with you... It's a farce of a decision.

Carlos Costly, Kem Austien, O'Shea, Shroot how many more do you want?
Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kyle-KRO
Member Avatar
Ian Handysides
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
stansolo
May 25 2011, 08:01 PM
Kyle-KRO
May 25 2011, 07:47 PM
The Yeung Pretenders
May 25 2011, 07:43 PM
The Board are trying to address the off the field problems and they think a sacking will send a strong message to the rest of the staff that they do not accept failure. Not sure that they are threatening McLeish but reminding him that he  has to achieve success.

And now he'll have to achieve that success without the aid of one of his greatest assets... The person charged with finding talent. :blink:

It's cutting off the nose to spite the face.



Blue casual,

I'm in complete agreement with you... It's a farce of a decision.

Carlos Costly, Kem Austien, O'Shea, Shroot how many more do you want?

What do you have there, two loans with low expectation and two nominal fee low risk players? < <

Dann, Roger, Hart, Foster, Carr, Ferguson, Beausejour, Chucho, Davies, Jiranek, Ziga, Gardner; now how many more do you want? ;)

*EDIT* Also set up moves for the likes of Pavyluchenko, Miccoli, Camoranesi, N'Zogbia, Dembele, Babel, etc.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
poppa999
Member Avatar
Mikael Forssell
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Bobby Blue 50
May 25 2011, 08:06 PM
I believe if we had stayed up McLeish would have been sacked and as a Premier club

Tosh! :angry:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
robdogs
Member Avatar
Jose Dominguez
[ *  *  * ]
Yep, the guy charged with finding talent has gone. Could it be because he didn't find enough talent last season? I don't think this is a conspiracy at all, it's the result of a guy doing a rubbish job. His idea of a good Premier League forward was Matt Derbyshire. We haven't signed a decent young player in two seasons (the last was Dann); the board have already said that they want to sign promising young players rather than the lags and cast-offs that Montgomery presumably watched and reported on, and they want someone who can find those players. The last transfer window was a shining example of Montgomery's failure: we looked at Miller, Keane, and Martins. A bloke in a pub could have come up with those names.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kyle-KRO
Member Avatar
Ian Handysides
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
robdogs
May 25 2011, 08:12 PM
Yep, the guy charged with finding talent has gone. Could it be because he didn't find enough talent last season? I don't think this is a conspiracy at all, it's the result of a guy doing a rubbish job. His idea of a good Premier League forward was Matt Derbyshire. We haven't signed a decent young player in two seasons (the last was Dann); the board have already said that they want to sign promising young players rather than the lags and cast-offs that Montgomery presumably watched and reported on, and they want someone who can find those players. The last transfer window was a shining example of Montgomery's failure: we looked at Miller, Keane, and Martins. A bloke in a pub could have come up with those names.

Well that's not true, is it? His idea of a Premier League forward line was some combination of Pavyluchenko, Babel, Dembele, Miccoli, N'Zogbia, Odemwingie, Zigic, etc.. For various reasons only one of those came though, and he was forced to resort to searching for bargains.


Once again...

Good enough for Chelsea in December, but not good enough for Blues in May. :LMAO:


BLUES’ star spotter Paul Montgomery has admitted to being ‘flattered’ by a Chelsea job link.

But the club’s chief scout said he had no intention of deserting Alex McLeish at St Andrew’s.


“It’s flattering that a club like Chelsea seems to have noticed my work,” said the 57-year-old Geordie.

“However, I came to do a job at Birmingham with a manager I respect and like as a person – and I would like to finish what I have only just started.

“We are looking to build up a recruitment network here that will improve things for Birmingham.

“A lot of hard work has already gone in, and there is plenty still to be done.”

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-s...97319-27846084/
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
poppa999
Member Avatar
Mikael Forssell
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
robdogs
May 25 2011, 09:12 PM
Yep, the guy charged with finding talent has gone. Could it be because he didn't find enough talent last season? I don't think this is a conspiracy at all, it's the result of a guy doing a rubbish job. His idea of a good Premier League forward was Matt Derbyshire. We haven't signed a decent young player in two seasons (the last was Dann); the board have already said that they want to sign promising young players rather than the lags and cast-offs that Montgomery presumably watched and reported on, and they want someone who can find those players. The last transfer window was a shining example of Montgomery's failure: we looked at Miller, Keane, and Martins. A bloke in a pub could have come up with those names.

Well said Robdogs. For all we know AM might have moved him on.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
blue casual
Member Avatar
Frank Worthington
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Young and promising you say? Dembele was one of the most successful signings of the season, you can't deny him that one.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
thehawk
Geoff Horsfield
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
blue casual
May 25 2011, 08:21 PM
Young and promising you say? Dembele was one of the most successful signings of the season, you can't deny him that one.

and Montgomery is apparently to blame for not getting him to sign for us.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Blues Chat · Next Topic »
Add Reply

Forum Design by Hirsty.