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Dann And Jerome To Stoke; Merged
Topic Started: Jun 24 2011, 03:47 PM (7,871 Views)
Blacksmith
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And for most of those matches he was asked to play in a role he was unsuited to. With a better manager he will go back to the goalscoring ways that saw us sign him in the first place.

He has had his confidence shattered, and nothing is worse for a forward.
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Jun 29 2011, 04:36 AM
 
But must disagree on one thing O'Neill was not the Villa manager when we got Davies from them...................was he?

Apologies you are right

We signed Davis back in January so Houllier was in charge

Although I do believe Davis had fallen out of favour with O'Neill anyway while he was there.....MON had criticised him pretty heavily after a Carling Cup tie one time

I think that dispute led to him being sold and Houllier didn't bother to giving him another chance

Personally I think CD is better than both Dunne and Collins but only time will tell

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Jun 28 2011, 07:28 PM
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Jun 26 2011, 09:30 PM
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Jun 25 2011, 08:21 PM
jassyblue80
Jun 24 2011, 03:47 PM
12 million quid bid for the pair according to Oliver holte on mirror twitter!!

So thats £11,999.999 for Dann and a quid for Jerome ?.

Why did you you rob Oby's joke?!

Never read Obys post, but great minds think alike.

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Jun 29 2011, 08:46 AM
Other than Forsell, who is Blues's top Premiership scorer?

Oooooh, look at that, its Jerome, with 21 goals in 99 games.

And still people claim that he isn't a Premiership striker. Still, I suppose you can prove anything with facts, can't you?

How do your figures stack up when you factor in the fact that Forss was out injured for an entire season and was here for half the time we've had Jerome?

I think the Forss - Morrison partnership scored more goals for us than any other.
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Jun 29 2011, 05:30 AM
thehod
Jun 29 2011, 08:46 AM
Other than Forsell, who is Blues's top Premiership scorer?

Oooooh, look at that, its Jerome, with 21 goals in 99 games.

And still people claim that he isn't a Premiership striker. Still, I suppose you can prove anything with facts, can't you?

How do your figures stack up when you factor in the fact that Forss was out injured for an entire season and was here for half the time we've had Jerome?

I think the Forss - Morrison partnership scored more goals for us than any other.

Morrison.......only 14 goals in 87 Premier League games

He's right but feel free to dispute it


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Jun 29 2011, 09:30 AM
thehod
Jun 29 2011, 08:46 AM
Other than Forsell, who is Blues's top Premiership scorer?

Oooooh, look at that, its Jerome, with 21 goals in 99 games.

And still people claim that he isn't a Premiership striker. Still, I suppose you can prove anything with facts, can't you?

How do your figures stack up when you factor in the fact that Forss was out injured for an entire season and was here for half the time we've had Jerome?

I think the Forss - Morrison partnership scored more goals for us than any other.

Forse scored 29 goals in three seasons for Blues
17 in 32 in 3/4
3 in 27 in 5/6
9 in 30 in 7/8

We'll ignore his 4/5 season as he hardly played.

So Forse was here for just as long as Cam, and scored 9 goals more.

Yes, Forse had his injuries, but then Jerome was being asked to be a loan striker for too many games.

He's a Prem striker
His stats prove he's a Prem striker
Other prem clubs being willing to pay 5m+ prove that he's a Prem striker.

The only people trying to claim different is Blues fans. Go figure.
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thehod
Jun 29 2011, 05:51 AM
BruceysFatWallet
Jun 29 2011, 09:30 AM
thehod
Jun 29 2011, 08:46 AM
Other than Forsell, who is Blues's top Premiership scorer?

Oooooh, look at that, its Jerome, with 21 goals in 99 games.

And still people claim that he isn't a Premiership striker. Still, I suppose you can prove anything with facts, can't you?

How do your figures stack up when you factor in the fact that Forss was out injured for an entire season and was here for half the time we've had Jerome?

I think the Forss - Morrison partnership scored more goals for us than any other.

Forse scored 29 goals in three seasons for Blues
17 in 32 in 3/4
3 in 27 in 5/6
9 in 30 in 7/8

We'll ignore his 4/5 season as he hardly played.

So Forse was here for just as long as Cam, and scored 9 goals more.

Yes, Forse had his injuries, but then Jerome was being asked to be a loan striker for too many games.

He's a Prem striker
His stats prove he's a Prem striker
Other prem clubs being willing to pay 5m+ prove that he's a Prem striker.

The only people trying to claim different is Blues fans. Go figure.

Good post, Hod

I'm sure it will fly over a few heads on here though.....I mean we're only talking about trivial facts and stats here


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Jun 24 2011, 04:25 PM
Coventry are due 10% of any profit Blues make over the 3.5 million they paid.

Sometimes a joint sale can help towards a lower valuation of a highly priced player  ;)

and at the moment every penny counts...

Wayne Clark and Stuart Storer that went to Everton?

WIKI

Clarke joined Everton in March 1987 together with inexperienced reserve striker Stuart Storer, the pair jointly valued at £300,000. Former club Wolves complained to the Football League because they believed Birmingham were deliberately inflating the valuation placed on Storer in order to reduce the amount they would owe Wolves under the sell-on clause for Clarke. Birmingham's actions may have been an attempt to recoup money lost on the 1981 sale of Joe Gallagher to Wolves, when the club was declared bankrupt the following year still owing most of the £350,000 fee.
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Jun 29 2011, 10:07 AM
thehod
Jun 29 2011, 05:51 AM
BruceysFatWallet
Jun 29 2011, 09:30 AM
thehod
Jun 29 2011, 08:46 AM
Other than Forsell, who is Blues's top Premiership scorer?

Oooooh, look at that, its Jerome, with 21 goals in 99 games.

And still people claim that he isn't a Premiership striker. Still, I suppose you can prove anything with facts, can't you?

How do your figures stack up when you factor in the fact that Forss was out injured for an entire season and was here for half the time we've had Jerome?

I think the Forss - Morrison partnership scored more goals for us than any other.

Forse scored 29 goals in three seasons for Blues
17 in 32 in 3/4
3 in 27 in 5/6
9 in 30 in 7/8

We'll ignore his 4/5 season as he hardly played.

So Forse was here for just as long as Cam, and scored 9 goals more.

Yes, Forse had his injuries, but then Jerome was being asked to be a loan striker for too many games.

He's a Prem striker
His stats prove he's a Prem striker
Other prem clubs being willing to pay 5m+ prove that he's a Prem striker.

The only people trying to claim different is Blues fans. Go figure.

Good post, Hod

I'm sure it will fly over a few heads on here though.....I mean we're only talking about trivial facts and stats here


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he day Cameron Jerome nets 17 times in 30 starts, I will paint my ar$e blue and run naked around the centre circle.

I am not anti-CJ but he's been here for years and never shown the form he had at Cardiff. Forss on the other hand started really well but was then clobbered by recurrent injury problems (whereas CJ has enjoyed fine health for several years).

You can't seriously tell me that you'd stack up Forss in his prime against Jeromes best season in the Prem with Blues?
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Jun 29 2011, 11:07 AM
PartisanBCFC
Jun 29 2011, 10:07 AM
thehod
Jun 29 2011, 05:51 AM
BruceysFatWallet
Jun 29 2011, 09:30 AM
thehod
Jun 29 2011, 08:46 AM
Other than Forsell, who is Blues's top Premiership scorer?

Oooooh, look at that, its Jerome, with 21 goals in 99 games.

And still people claim that he isn't a Premiership striker. Still, I suppose you can prove anything with facts, can't you?

How do your figures stack up when you factor in the fact that Forss was out injured for an entire season and was here for half the time we've had Jerome?

I think the Forss - Morrison partnership scored more goals for us than any other.

Forse scored 29 goals in three seasons for Blues
17 in 32 in 3/4
3 in 27 in 5/6
9 in 30 in 7/8

We'll ignore his 4/5 season as he hardly played.

So Forse was here for just as long as Cam, and scored 9 goals more.

Yes, Forse had his injuries, but then Jerome was being asked to be a loan striker for too many games.

He's a Prem striker
His stats prove he's a Prem striker
Other prem clubs being willing to pay 5m+ prove that he's a Prem striker.

The only people trying to claim different is Blues fans. Go figure.

Good post, Hod

I'm sure it will fly over a few heads on here though.....I mean we're only talking about trivial facts and stats here


:applause:

he day Cameron Jerome nets 17 times in 30 starts, I will paint my ar$e blue and run naked around the centre circle.

I am not anti-CJ but he's been here for years and never shown the form he had at Cardiff. Forss on the other hand started really well but was then clobbered by recurrent injury problems (whereas CJ has enjoyed fine health for several years).

You can't seriously tell me that you'd stack up Forss in his prime against Jeromes best season in the Prem with Blues?

I don't believe I said anything of the sort.

What I am saying is that those who claim that Jerome isn't a Premiership striker are wrong.

Emphatically, imperically wrong.

They could claim that they weren't, but they don't have the statistics or the evidence to back up anything they said. I do.

I'm right.
They're wrong.
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'I'm right.'
'They're wrong.' Do you wear out the mirrors in your house through overuse, cupcake?
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Jun 29 2011, 01:10 PM
'I'm right.'
'They're wrong.' Do you wear out the mirrors in your house through overuse, cupcake?

This is not me being arrogant. This is me being factually correct.

Jerome has scored 21 goals in the Premier

How is he not a Premier striker?

You can debate whether he is a good striker or a bad striker until the cows come home, but the fact that no-one, other than Forsell, has netted more goals in the Premiership whilst being a Blues player and the fact that Premiership clubs have been looking to sign him for 18 months now means that he is, by definition, a Premiership striker.
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Jun 29 2011, 02:55 AM
Well funny how you should say that because a striker like Chucho, who let's be honest, was found wanting in the Prem only scored three goals in the PL yet Jerome gets crucified for the same amount this term ?


Chucho was unpredictable, he created so many chances for us. Also its a bit harsh to slate him for lack of goals when he has come from a different continent. You dont know how many he might of scored given a second season. He made things happen out of nothing, something which we havent seen alot of in the past few seasons.

I slate Jerome as being poor after seeing him try and play for the past 5 years or whatever. You slate Benitez after one season, even though we finished 9th with him in the team.

Benitez leaves and then we become virtually the lowest scorers in England and get relegated. He was a big player for us in many ways.
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Jun 29 2011, 01:22 PM
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Jun 29 2011, 02:55 AM
Well funny how you should say that because a striker like Chucho, who let's be honest, was found wanting in the Prem only scored three goals in the PL yet Jerome gets crucified for the same amount this term ?


Chucho was unpredictable, he created so many chances for us. Also its a bit harsh to slate him for lack of goals when he has come from a different continent. You dont know how many he might of scored given a second season. He made things happen out of nothing, something which we havent seen alot of in the past few seasons.

I slate Jerome as being poor after seeing him try and play for the past 5 years or whatever. You slate Benitez after one season, even though we finished 9th with him in the team.

Benitez leaves and then we become virtually the lowest scorers in England and get relegated. He was a big player for us in many ways.

We only scored one more goal in 09/10 with Chucho than we did in 10/11 without him.

Having said that, I happen to agree with you. Sort of.

The benefit that Chucho had was pace and trickery. With him and Jerome up front, the oppositios defence and midfield had to back off and we were able to press higher up the pitch.

With just Jerome up front, it was our midfield and defence that backed off, we were put under more pressure, and conceeded more.

It wasn't Chucho specifically that we needed. It was a pacy partner for Jerome.
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Jun 29 2011, 01:29 PM
It wasn't Chucho specifically that we needed. It was a pacy partner for Jerome.

Yep and we bought Zigic.
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Spot on. McLies not realising attacking can really help your defense.
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Says that Blues want 20 for them and fuller and they have backed off....

Also if Stoke also have Huth and Shawcross

Plus they will have a decent forward line if they get Jerome and Cole ..... be Jones Jerome Cole and Walters
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Dann deserves better than Stoke
Jerome should be delighted...he can look forward to a bad neck watching the ball drop out the sky
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I agree DANN can do better

Fuller is injured isnt he ?

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Jun 29 2011, 03:12 PM
I agree DANN can do better

Fuller is injured isnt he ?

did he break sweat
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IMO i will miss Dann i think hes a great player :applause: but Jerome could go for free as he is dire! we are gunna miss absolutely nothing from this freeloader good riddance to him i say **thumbup
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Jun 30 2011, 01:45 PM
but Jerome could go for free as he is dire! we are gunna miss absolutely nothing from this freeloader good riddance to him i say **thumbup

Couldn't disagree more

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How do we explain the 3 prem goals this season then? All down to McRats tactics or Jerome's incompetence infront of goal. I'm sure he's a nice guy. He tries. But its time he moved on. I'm sick of the blue tinted shade brigade telling me he causes trouble for defenders, and his work rate is immense. He scored three goals in the league this season. You cant argue with three.
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How do we explain the 3 prem goals this season then? All down to McRats tactics or Jerome's incompetence infront of goal. I'm sure he's a nice guy. He tries. But its time he moved on. I'm sick of the blue tinted shade brigade telling me he causes trouble for defenders, and his work rate is immense. He scored three goals in the league this season. You cant argue with three.

You Jerome Bashers just rely on his poor tally this season when he got naff all in the way of decent service from our crab like midfield

Jerome was our top scorer in 2009/10 with 11

And as The Hod pointed out he is also our second highest all time Prem scorer only after Mikael Forssell

I have no clue if he will be sold or not.....Seems he may end up at either Bolton or Stoke

If he does stay though he might flourish under Chris Hughton

He doesn't deserve the disgraceful abuse he gets on here, he maybe deserves another chance under a more attack minded manager


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Joeybluenose
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How do we explain the 3 prem goals this season then? All down to McRats tactics or Jerome's incompetence infront of goal. I'm sure he's a nice guy. He tries. But its time he moved on. I'm sick of the blue tinted shade brigade telling me he causes trouble for defenders, and his work rate is immense. He scored three goals in the league this season. You cant argue with three.

You Jerome Bashers just rely on his poor tally this season when he got naff all in the way of decent service from our crab like midfield

Jerome was our top scorer in 2009/10 with 11

And as The Hod pointed out he is also our second highest all time Prem scorer only after Mikael Forssell

I have no clue if he will be sold or not.....Seems he may end up at either Bolton or Stoke

If he does stay though he might flourish under Chris Hughton

He doesn't deserve the disgraceful abuse he gets on here, he maybe deserves another chance under a more attack minded manager

He missed Chucho last season tbf to him. KRO!!!!
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