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Promotion Next Season; No Chance
Topic Started: Jul 4 2011, 10:53 AM (1,511 Views)
bcfcno1fan
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Alex Govan
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chudlt
Jul 4 2011, 11:53 AM
The only reason we gained promotion back to the Premier last time was because Sullivan and Gold refused to allow a fire sale of our players and kept them in the Championship on Premiership wages.
The current board are intent on decreasing wages and selling of the clubs major assets the players.
We are about to return to the dark days. It could takes us another 20 years to return to the upper league, unless the directors change strategy or the owner sells the club.

Your wife is going to leave you, your house is going to be broken into, all your valuables will be stolen and a close friend will be seriously injured in a terrible car crash.

Why are people so bleeding negative. No reason to be at all, we still have all our star players, a better manager, and our chairman has invested in a laundrettes!
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Jul 4 2011, 03:22 PM
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Jul 4 2011, 01:44 PM
Chris Hughton has a massive job on his hands..all we can do is support him,the players he selects and above all Birmingham City Football Club


Agree a HUGE job ,lets hope he is given the tools to do it

That was the point of th thread. AM was given the tools to achieve promotion. Not sure that CH will be with the current board and the cash problems of the current owner.

Hughton is confident he can build a team to achieve promtion..despiet knowing everything he and the club have to do.

He backs himslef to do it,the least we can do is do the same

70% of managers think they can get promotion with their sides, he is just one of many.

Managers who think their team can get promoted divided by total number of managers equals 70%?

Or did you just pluck that number out of thin air.

Talking nonsense as usual. :blink:

What the hell are you on about :blink: to make it simpler for you 75% **thumbup

Just confirming your talking nonsese with made up stats. **thumbup
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Jul 4 2011, 04:17 PM
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Jul 4 2011, 03:22 PM
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Jul 4 2011, 01:44 PM
Chris Hughton has a massive job on his hands..all we can do is support him,the players he selects and above all Birmingham City Football Club


Agree a HUGE job ,lets hope he is given the tools to do it

That was the point of th thread. AM was given the tools to achieve promotion. Not sure that CH will be with the current board and the cash problems of the current owner.

Hughton is confident he can build a team to achieve promtion..despiet knowing everything he and the club have to do.

He backs himslef to do it,the least we can do is do the same

70% of managers think they can get promotion with their sides, he is just one of many.

Managers who think their team can get promoted divided by total number of managers equals 70%?

Or did you just pluck that number out of thin air.

Talking nonsense as usual. :blink:

What the hell are you on about :blink: to make it simpler for you 75% **thumbup

Just confirming your talking nonsese with made up stats. **thumbup

60% of the timeeee, it worksss every timee.
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Jul 4 2011, 03:22 PM
BARNETTSrun
Jul 4 2011, 01:44 PM
Chris Hughton has a massive job on his hands..all we can do is support him,the players he selects and above all Birmingham City Football Club


Agree a HUGE job ,lets hope he is given the tools to do it

That was the point of th thread. AM was given the tools to achieve promotion. Not sure that CH will be with the current board and the cash problems of the current owner.

Hughton is confident he can build a team to achieve promtion..despiet knowing everything he and the club have to do.

He backs himslef to do it,the least we can do is do the same

70% of managers think they can get promotion with their sides, he is just one of many.

Managers who think their team can get promoted divided by total number of managers equals 70%?

Or did you just pluck that number out of thin air.

Talking nonsense as usual. :blink:

What the hell are you on about :blink: to make it simpler for you 75% **thumbup

Just confirming your talking nonsese with made up stats. **thumbup

It is called opinion sunshine, IMO about 75% or 18 of the 24 teams in the Championship think they can get promotion.
Hope this helps :kiss:
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Jul 4 2011, 03:22 PM
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Jul 4 2011, 01:44 PM
Chris Hughton has a massive job on his hands..all we can do is support him,the players he selects and above all Birmingham City Football Club


Agree a HUGE job ,lets hope he is given the tools to do it

That was the point of th thread. AM was given the tools to achieve promotion. Not sure that CH will be with the current board and the cash problems of the current owner.

Hughton is confident he can build a team to achieve promtion..despiet knowing everything he and the club have to do.

He backs himslef to do it,the least we can do is do the same

70% of managers think they can get promotion with their sides, he is just one of many.

Managers who think their team can get promoted divided by total number of managers equals 70%?

Or did you just pluck that number out of thin air.

Talking nonsense as usual. :blink:

What the hell are you on about :blink: to make it simpler for you 75% **thumbup

Just confirming your talking nonsese with made up stats. **thumbup

It is called opinion sunshine, IMO about 75% or 18 of the 24 teams in the Championship think they can get promotion.
Hope this helps :kiss:

However, we are in the 6 clubs or so, top 25%, that think they can achieve the ultimate goal of winning the league.
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Jul 4 2011, 11:48 AM
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Jul 4 2011, 11:05 AM
How stupid is this... When all these mercanaries leave why have we no chance of promotion? I bet my house that we get promoted this season no problem.

I will have a bet with you mate **thumbup how do you think we can possibly even have a sniff of promotion if the bulk of our best players go :blink: you honestly think a team can get back up by signing freebies that other clubs don't want any more....if we do not spend the money we get from this simmers transfers we have a snowballs in hell chance of finishing top half never mind promotion.

You do realise that going on a Bosman doesn't mean that your team doesn't want you.
I will point you to Sebastian Larson, did we not want him? In the most case a Bosman player has turned down a contract offer from his current employer.

Use that thing between your ears will you.

Burke wanted more at Cardiff and they told him to shove it, the sex offender is not half the player of Jerome who will be off, any decent player on a Bosman will be off to a prem side.

Use that thing between your ears will you, freebies will not get a side promoted.

:LMAO:

So Burke was wanted by his club but he didn't agree to the contract they offered? Isn't that what I said.

And King scores goals, he will therefore be more valuable to our promotion campaign than Cam although I don't see what your comparison has to do with your Bosmans are rubbish argument. Player of the season at Cov and fans/ manager wanted him to stay again contrary to what you think of Bosmans.

This is the case for many Bosmans. So in short, you are wrong. Good day to you

:break:

:LMAO: OK, lets get freebies in because they cost nothing and start playing exiting free flowing football with a far poorer squad than last season and get promoted with bucket basement signings, ermmmm, try using that thing between your lug-holes mate.

There is nothing wrong with the players we have brought in. Burke and King are proven quality at this level and the other two have done great in Scotland. Rooney scoring goals at a newly promoted club. For me Burke will do better than Larsson in his time at Blues but only time will tell. KRO!!!!
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Jul 4 2011, 01:44 PM
Chris Hughton has a massive job on his hands..all we can do is support him,the players he selects and above all Birmingham City Football Club


Agree a HUGE job ,lets hope he is given the tools to do it

That was the point of th thread. AM was given the tools to achieve promotion. Not sure that CH will be with the current board and the cash problems of the current owner.

Hughton is confident he can build a team to achieve promtion..despiet knowing everything he and the club have to do.

He backs himslef to do it,the least we can do is do the same

70% of managers think they can get promotion with their sides, he is just one of many.

Managers who think their team can get promoted divided by total number of managers equals 70%?

Or did you just pluck that number out of thin air.

Talking nonsense as usual. :blink:

What the hell are you on about :blink: to make it simpler for you 75% **thumbup

Just confirming your talking nonsese with made up stats.

It is called opinion sunshine, IMO about 75% or 18 of the 24 teams in the Championship think they can get promotion.
Hope this helps

You didn't say it was an opinion. Your use of a percentage pointed toward you thinking you were stating a fact.

But even still I don't agree, unsurprisingly. Maybe that many think they have a chance of making the play offs. But not gain promotion, certainly not automatic. This is my opinion without made up figures to try and make it appear more credible.

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I am looking forward to the new season. Anyone of the teams in the Championship could get promoted, unlike the Prem we almost know who the top 6 are going to be, in the Championship that is hard to predict.

Looking forward to some decent football, the youngsters getting some field time and CH putting his magic into the team.

:blues: K.R.O
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Far too soon to say. Look at the team for the Everton game and watch how they perform, then decide.
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Jul 4 2011, 12:30 PM
I agree with you Des about the Prem being the place to be however I cant see us getting back there anytime soon.

The championship is a very hard place to get out of.  Remember we spent from 1984 through to 2002 out of the premier division in the football league.  For the later part of that time we had owners who were very keen on getting us promoted and put money into the club.  Failing to get promotion on many occasions.

Just because since we came up via the play offs we have been a yoyo club doesn't mean we will continue to do so, especially at the moment when we have owners who are having to sell players to pay debts.

I have a nasty feeling that we are in for a very nasty time.

i have a good feeling we are in for a good time

:applause: **thumbup :blues:
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Jul 4 2011, 01:44 PM
Chris Hughton has a massive job on his hands..all we can do is support him,the players he selects and above all Birmingham City Football Club


Agree a HUGE job ,lets hope he is given the tools to do it

That was the point of th thread. AM was given the tools to achieve promotion. Not sure that CH will be with the current board and the cash problems of the current owner.

Hughton is confident he can build a team to achieve promtion..despiet knowing everything he and the club have to do.

He backs himslef to do it,the least we can do is do the same

70% of managers think they can get promotion with their sides, he is just one of many.

Managers who think their team can get promoted divided by total number of managers equals 70%?

Or did you just pluck that number out of thin air.

Talking nonsense as usual. :blink:

What the hell are you on about :blink: to make it simpler for you 75% **thumbup

Just confirming your talking nonsese with made up stats. **thumbup

It is called opinion sunshine, IMO about 75% or 18 of the 24 teams in the Championship think they can get promotion.
Hope this helps :kiss:

I hope you are right and 18 out of 24 teams think they are in with a shout of promotion. It will almost be like the old days, when leagues were competitive, and football was worth watching. Not like the Premier, where only the 2 or 3 teams who can pay their players £150k per second are able to win it ; and the rest are just there to make up the numbers.
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I think we all know most of the "Big6" will leave but we do not know who CH will bring in. Look at Paul Lambert and Neil Warnock - who did they bring in and who were in their squads? any big-time Charlies? No.

Personally, I don't think we will get promotion this season BUT I will be more than happy watching CH impose his brand of football and watching the team/squad build and develop.

But who knows? we might get promoted but in any way I will sit back and enjoy - starting at Pride Park.

Good man
Wise words.
Will be great to see the changes, some positivity.
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amazing that a few years ago the players we have signed would of been classed as SHREWD business by Blues But know some think we have done it on the cheap :rolleyes:
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I think we all know most of the "Big6" will leave but we do not know who CH will bring in. Look at Paul Lambert and Neil Warnock - who did they bring in and who were in their squads? any big-time Charlies? No.

Personally, I don't think we will get promotion this season BUT I will be more than happy watching CH impose his brand of football and watching the team/squad build and develop.

But who knows? we might get promoted but in any way I will sit back and enjoy -  starting at Pride Park.

Good man
Wise words.
Will be great to see the changes, some positivity.

Or we could all just sit around and cry because we don't know for certain whether we will be promoted into the Budwieser Barclays Commercial League.

Wish people would just get a massive slap around the face, and start supporting the club, not the bloody division we're in!

We are in the minority here boys!
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Jul 4 2011, 11:53 AM
The only reason we gained promotion back to the Premier last time was because Sullivan and Gold refused to allow a fire sale of our players and kept them in the Championship on Premiership wages.
The current board are intent on decreasing wages and selling of the clubs major assets the players.
We are about to return to the dark days. It could takes us another 20 years to return to the upper league, unless the directors change strategy or the owner sells the club.

Who cares?

Are you a Birmingham City fan or a Barclays Premier League fan?

Id rather spend 5 years in the Championship building a squad and a decent fanbase back than have this same conversation year after year.

Infact, i think the best thing to do would be to stay here for 10 years or so, therefore we can get rid of the PL fans we have here, may aswell where a white shirt with the PL badge on when you come to St. Andys.
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Jul 4 2011, 10:53 AM
The only reason we gained promotion back to the Premier last time was because Sullivan and Gold refused to allow a fire sale of our players and kept them in the Championship on Premiership wages.
The current board are intent on decreasing wages and selling of the clubs major assets the players.
We are about to return to the dark days. It could takes us another 20 years to return to the upper league, unless the directors change strategy or the owner sells the club.

You seem to be forgetting the 2006/7 season where we sold Heskey, Pennant, Upson, Dunn and let a whole host of players go, before signing cheap, young, hungry players, and bringing some players in on loan, including Bendtner, Muamba and Seb.

That transfer window we spent £10m, £4 of which was on one player, Sheff.

Granted, we've not spent a bean yet. Yet. We need to generate income before we can spend this season, and Carson's current strife isn't helping that.

I'd imagine that Hughton will get between £5-7m to spend this summer, and if he can pick up two or three useful players with that, as well as some more Bosman's and some loan deals, that is a good window taking into account the financial situation we're in.


Some of you seem to think that boards should be able to pull millions out of their rear ends at a moments notice.
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Stop moaning. It's going to be ace, so have some fun and get behind the team.
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Stop moaning. It's going to be ace, so have some fun and get behind the team.

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Stop moaning. It's going to be ace, so have some fun and get behind the team.

Or it could be a nightmare...time will tell.
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look no one nows how rooney will do but the 1 thing i will say is in his behalf if he scored all them goals in a rangers team we would all be saying well we could all score for team like rangers ...yes...but rooney had done it at a small team in scotland which is much harder to do so lets give him a chance .50 odd goals in 2 seasons for a small team like inverness is no mean feat,against teams like celtic/and rangers /hearts and hibs..when teams like inverness wouldnt make many chances per game so give the lad a break
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Stop moaning.  It's going to be ace, so have some fun and get behind the team.

Or it could be a nightmare...time will tell.

That is far too realistic a post for this forum !!

:LMAO:

We dont know do we

Just have to get behind the boys in light royal blue !!

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Jul 4 2011, 11:53 AM
The only reason we gained promotion back to the Premier last time was because Sullivan and Gold refused to allow a fire sale of our players and kept them in the Championship on Premiership wages.
The current board are intent on decreasing wages and selling of the clubs major assets the players.
We are about to return to the dark days. It could takes us another 20 years to return to the upper league, unless the directors change strategy or the owner sells the club.

Who cares?

Are you a Birmingham City fan or a Barclays Premier League fan?

Id rather spend 5 years in the Championship building a squad and a decent fanbase back than have this same conversation year after year.

Infact, i think the best thing to do would be to stay here for 10 years or so, therefore we can get rid of the PL fans we have here, may aswell where a white shirt with the PL badge on when you come to St. Andys.

I have spent 39 years supporting the team and I will you tell you something. It's far better watching us playing Man Utd at St.Andrews in the Premier League, than standing in the Cemetery end at Bury on a freezing cold afternoon with a 6000 attendance and losing 1-0 in the 3rd division.. And that my friend is the truth!!!
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chudlt
Jul 4 2011, 11:53 AM
The only reason we gained promotion back to the Premier last time was because Sullivan and Gold refused to allow a fire sale of our players and kept them in the Championship on Premiership wages.
The current board are intent on decreasing wages and selling of the clubs major assets the players.
We are about to return to the dark days. It could takes us another 20 years to return to the upper league, unless the directors change strategy or the owner sells the club.

Who cares?

Are you a Birmingham City fan or a Barclays Premier League fan?

Id rather spend 5 years in the Championship building a squad and a decent fanbase back than have this same conversation year after year.

Infact, i think the best thing to do would be to stay here for 10 years or so, therefore we can get rid of the PL fans we have here, may aswell where a white shirt with the PL badge on when you come to St. Andys.

I have spent 39 years supporting the team and I will you tell you something. It's far better watching us playing Man Utd at St.Andrews in the Premier League, than standing in the Cemetery end at Bury on a freezing cold afternoon with a 6000 attendance and losing 1-0 in the 3rd division.. And that my friend is the truth!!!

That is the truth

Or standing in an open end at Elm park and being 2 down at half time or a tuesday night at Swindon getting peed on !! LOL

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Jul 5 2011, 09:10 AM
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Jul 5 2011, 09:08 AM
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Jul 4 2011, 09:53 PM
chudlt
Jul 4 2011, 11:53 AM
The only reason we gained promotion back to the Premier last time was because Sullivan and Gold refused to allow a fire sale of our players and kept them in the Championship on Premiership wages.
The current board are intent on decreasing wages and selling of the clubs major assets the players.
We are about to return to the dark days. It could takes us another 20 years to return to the upper league, unless the directors change strategy or the owner sells the club.

Who cares?

Are you a Birmingham City fan or a Barclays Premier League fan?

Id rather spend 5 years in the Championship building a squad and a decent fanbase back than have this same conversation year after year.

Infact, i think the best thing to do would be to stay here for 10 years or so, therefore we can get rid of the PL fans we have here, may aswell where a white shirt with the PL badge on when you come to St. Andys.

I have spent 39 years supporting the team and I will you tell you something. It's far better watching us playing Man Utd at St.Andrews in the Premier League, than standing in the Cemetery end at Bury on a freezing cold afternoon with a 6000 attendance and losing 1-0 in the 3rd division.. And that my friend is the truth!!!

That is the truth

Or standing in an open end at Elm park and being 2 down at half time or a tuesday night at Swindon getting peed on !! LOL

Those were the good old days all the youngsters go on about!! :LMAO:
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Jul 5 2011, 09:08 AM
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Jul 4 2011, 09:53 PM
chudlt
Jul 4 2011, 11:53 AM
The only reason we gained promotion back to the Premier last time was because Sullivan and Gold refused to allow a fire sale of our players and kept them in the Championship on Premiership wages.
The current board are intent on decreasing wages and selling of the clubs major assets the players.
We are about to return to the dark days. It could takes us another 20 years to return to the upper league, unless the directors change strategy or the owner sells the club.

Who cares?

Are you a Birmingham City fan or a Barclays Premier League fan?

Id rather spend 5 years in the Championship building a squad and a decent fanbase back than have this same conversation year after year.

Infact, i think the best thing to do would be to stay here for 10 years or so, therefore we can get rid of the PL fans we have here, may aswell where a white shirt with the PL badge on when you come to St. Andys.

I have spent 39 years supporting the team and I will you tell you something. It's far better watching us playing Man Utd at St.Andrews in the Premier League, than standing in the Cemetery end at Bury on a freezing cold afternoon with a 6000 attendance and losing 1-0 in the 3rd division.. And that my friend is the truth!!!

That is the truth

Or standing in an open end at Elm park and being 2 down at half time or a tuesday night at Swindon getting peed on !! LOL

Those were the good old days all the youngsters go on about!! :LMAO:

:LMAO:

Leaving work early to go to Notts county for a pre season freindly to see the debuts of Peter Ndlovu and Tony Hey !!

AHHHH HAPPY DAYS
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