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Yellowbelly Government Decision Cause 1400 Jobs; to be cut in Derby
Topic Started: Jul 5 2011, 05:25 PM (217 Views)
BluesBot
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Paul Tait
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A cowardly decision in my opinion to appease the faceless eurocrats, what prospects for these workers in this climate ?????


http://news.aol.co.uk/main-news/story/bomb...in-jobs/1872013

The UK's last train-making company Bombardier has announced more than 1,400 job losses.

The Derby-based firm had hoped to win a multimillion-pound order for 1,200 new train carriages as part of the £6 billion Thameslink main line rail project.

But the Government decided last month to make German company Siemens the Thameslink preferred bidder, prompting a job-loss announcement affecting 446 permanent staff at Derby and 983 temporary staff.

Bombardier said it was "very disappointed" about the redundancies and said it was "a sad time" for Derby where rail work dates back to 1840 and where 3,000 people work.

One Bombardier worker at Derby said he felt "let down and betrayed", while transport unions said the decision in favour of Siemens was "a scandal" and "misguided".

Labour said it was not too late for the Government to review the Thameslink contract, which will see the new carriages built in Germany rather than at Derby.

But Transport Secretary Philip Hammond said altering the Siemens decision was "not an option" and that Bombardier had informed the Department for Transport in May that it would have to make more than 1,000 redundancies regardless of winning the Thameslink contract.

Mr Hammond added that under European procurement law the Government had had no choice but to announce Siemens as the preferred bidder. He said he and Business Secretary Vince Cable had written to the Prime Minister "on the issue of whether the UK is making the best use of the application of EU procurement rules".

Bombardier had been counting on getting the Thameslink order, having recently lost out to Hitachi of Japan for a big inter-city express train contract.

Workers at Derby are now completing orders for London Underground carriages and for diesel trains for the London Midland main line train company. Most of this work will be completed by the end of September this year.
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Stinking_Bishop
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Sad, very sad.

I notice the ConDems are blaming Labour by trying to insist that the deal was already done before they came to power. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.

Who are we to know?

All I do know is that crazy people keep voting for one inept government after another.
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tim
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It is sad and unfortunate for the people who will lose jobs and it'll hit the one's nearer retirement more. I just hope the pensions these guys have no doubt been investing for years are well protected.

Siemens will apparently create c.2000 jobs in the UK as a consequence.

But, another nail in the coffin for the British Manufacturing.

Let me give it you from a different angle though, having worked in the motor for many years.

It probably only has itself to blame.

The reason it lost out was the German bid was more competive and after seeing it 1st hand I know how the gravy train of British manufacturing works, all fueled by the great unions that demand so much, give so little.

Don't get me wrong, I know people that have lost jobs at MG and LDV. I got out while 'another' set of owners tried to stick as many fingers of one hand over the holes as the water leaked out, while sticking the fingers of the other hand in the pie the rest of the workforce were taking advantage of.

Don't get me wrong, fair play to them, but it could never last and time and time again it didn't... how many owners did LDV have before the Chinese (or was it Russians) asset stripped. The Paint shop has been stripped and shipped abroad now where it will probably start producing the 80,000 vehicle a year capacity its capable of.

The only reason new overseas car build has returned here, is because the workers have to comply to the 'new' working conditions and pay terms... they take it because work is work and guess what the unions have less say. Amazing really, they work together!

British Manufacturing has to become more competitive or learn the hard way.

This is the hard way.
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lowdham bluenose
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Jul 5 2011, 08:14 PM
Sad, very sad.

I notice the ConDems are blaming Labour by trying to insist that the deal was already done before they came to power. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.

Who are we to know?

All I do know is that crazy people keep voting for one inept government after another.

you'll find that the deal was not done by blundering labour - but it is Euro legislation that blundering labour has tied us into that is the problem.

You'll also find that the tories are not inept and the Coalition are not inept----it's the absolute crrap and stitch-ups the last labour government has left that is the problem.

It's always been the same, give a labour govt a sniff of power and they screw it up.
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ManicBlue36
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Jul 5 2011, 07:14 PM
Sad, very sad.

I notice the ConDems are blaming Labour by trying to insist that the deal was already done before they came to power. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.

Who are we to know?

All I do know is that crazy people keep voting for one inept government after another.

That's because of the self-serving system we've got that masquerades as a democracy.

If we had a true democracy, then surely we would be able to relate and put our trust in some party or another. As it stands now, it's the old boys club and s-crew everyone else.

Wonder how this will affect Derby's attendances this coming season, because for years now, they have been impressive, considering they have to watch that cr_p week after week.
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Jul 5 2011, 07:14 PM
ConDems

Doms*
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midland red
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lowdham bluenose
Jul 5 2011, 10:06 PM
you'll find that the deal was not done by blundering labour - but it is Euro legislation that blundering labour has tied us into that is the problem.

You'll also find that the tories are not inept and the Coalition are not inept----it's the absolute crrap and stitch-ups the last labour government has left that is the problem.

It's always been the same, give a labour govt a sniff of power and they screw it up.

:LMAO:

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Single European Act (1986)

Maastricht Treaty (1993)



The Conservative government gave us those core, crucial and devastting blows to UK autonomy, lowdham. Memory failing yet again?

:LMAO:

Under Labour we had

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Treaty of Amsterdam (1999)
Purpose: To reform the EU institutions in preparation for the arrival of future member countries.

Treaty of Nice (2003)
Purpose: to reform the institutions so that the EU could function efficiently after reaching 25 member countries.


Really gut-wrenching stuff eh?

Who kept the UK OUT OF THE EURO ?

Not Blair.
Not Ken Clarke
Not Heseltine
Not even your other fave rave...Nickie Clegg.
Not Major either.

Poor old Gordon Brown, faught and won to keep the UK out of entering the Euro.

Keep airbrushing the past with your bent comments my friend.

You have a reputation to maintain.

:kiss:

PS

Sorry for using the word 'bent'

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Aussiebrum
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This wonderful quote really sums up the Blair/Brwn era so perfectly " tens of billions had been squandered, while Labour's stealth taxes, such as the pension fund smashand-grab, drained ever more cash from private purses. But nothing much had got better. Blair and Brown sidestepped the hard choices".

Now you (and your kids) will pay and pay and pay for their idiocy.
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turunc
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Apparently:

100% of French trains are manufactured in France?

90% of German trains are manufactured in Germany?

and according to the discussion on Radio 2 Bombardier have not lost in a competitive bid against Siemens for years any where in the world?

Only in the UK could this happen, they reckon the fall out from this will cost this country 40,000 jobs, when suppliers and associated job losses are taken into account.

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