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| shadow | Jul 7 2011, 06:46 PM Post #1 |
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In the instance that you decided you wanted a house built from scratch or your existing one expanding. Perhaps you want to set up a business and need a new building? I would like to know whether or not you would be willing with the economy the way it is to pay a student architect technician or student architect to produce the plans/ drawings and designs etc. As it would be a student producing these of course it would mean that you would get a hefty discount. feed.back Thank you to anyone who has time to reply |
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| blueblood | Jul 7 2011, 06:52 PM Post #2 |
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I would say that if you are contemplating building a house from scratch you aren't really looking to do it on the cheap. |
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| SimonBCFC | Jul 7 2011, 06:59 PM Post #3 |
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| Kaje | Jul 7 2011, 07:08 PM Post #4 |
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If I had the money, then of course. All architects were students once and everybody has to start somewhere! I'd have no issues with a student architect drawing up plans for a property - if anything, you could be sure that it'd conform to the latest standards and it'd be at the cutting edge of modern design. Hell, that student could then go on to be one of the greatest architects in the world - imagine how much the value of that building they designed whilst at college/university would sky rocket? |
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| blueblood | Jul 7 2011, 07:15 PM Post #5 |
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What a jolly nice fellow you are. Have you considered motivational speaking? I'm not even an architect but after reading that feel like I could design a sky scraper. |
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| shadow | Jul 7 2011, 08:28 PM Post #6 |
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That is quite a wonderful reply Kaje lol The reason I ask is i'm contemplating a business idea for when I leave uni, student architects. The plan is for myself to become qualified and earn some experience after finishing my course and oversee the work. However with this idea it would allow lower prices for anyone hiring said business, along with providing young students the chance to earn experience for later in life which everyone knows is incredibly important. So in my opinion with the economy being poor it would help to boost the construction industry as it would allow more people the opportunity to hire such companies. |
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| Kaje | Jul 7 2011, 09:00 PM Post #7 |
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The sky's the limit, Blueblood! **thumbup Shadow, I think it's a great idea, dude. I can see you earning a lot of money from that if you market it in the right way! It's got great potential and you could even seek start-up funding and publicity from the Government for promoting young, British architects and providing a much needed source of experience for future growth. Also, having a qualified and experienced architect (yourself, in this case) overseeing them, you'd reassure businesses who might be a little apprehensive about letting students (or freshly qualified architects) loose on their projects. Superb idea dude, genuinely love it and I'm not even an architect! |
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| Woodbine | Jul 8 2011, 05:33 AM Post #8 |
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Great idea but it's not that simple. It would take you several years practice to be qualified to the point where you could be licenced for such work. You would oversee the students, but who would oversee you? Building regulations are very stringent and there's enough cowboys around as it is. :) The standard entry route into the architectural profession takes a minimum of seven years: * Part I qualified Architect: You must complete: a first degree in architecture, known as RIBA part I - typically taking three or four years, 12 months of supervised and recorded practical experience, referred to as stage one professional experience - this is commonly taken in architects' practices, but may be in any sector of the building industry, including construction and design. You can apply for part I qualified architect jobs with this. * Part II qualified Architect: Two years of further study for a diploma or a secondary degree in architecture, known as RIBA part II, twelve months' supervised and recorded work experience known as stage two professional experience - this must be in an architect's office under the supervision of a qualified architect. You can apply for part II qualified architect jobs with this. * Part III / Fully qualified Architect: The RIBA part III examination in professional practice and management is the final criteria before you can register as an architect with the ARB and apply to become a chartered member of RIBA. Management / Senior level architect jobs are available with this. |
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| shadow | Jul 8 2011, 03:01 PM Post #9 |
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Funnily enough I know the period of time it will take... To begin with I would only be working as an architect technician, the guy that makes buildings work and not the one that makes it look pretty (the architect) :) |
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| Woodbine | Jul 8 2011, 08:10 PM Post #10 |
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Shadow, I'm sure you know exactly what is involved and that's why I'm a little confused by your proposal. I ain't got a clue what an architect technician is (maybe an architect's technical assistant?), so maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick here ......
So you would want me to pay you to get a student architect to design and draw-up plans for my house - but I would still also have to pay a fully indentured architect in order to comply with the law? If so, why would I need to use your service and how would that save me money? Maybe you could explain a little more? |
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| shadow | Jul 8 2011, 10:05 PM Post #11 |
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Ok quick summary of an architect technician. Draws up plans according to building regs etc, tends to be a more inexpensive option to an architect. Has understanding of how a building works but not only from the design stage but all the way on until how the services are installed in a house. It is basically the guy people don't see but you need in order for the job to be done. Think of him as a p.a. to a businessman/woman that can work for himself if he so chooses. Everytime an Architect is employed he will either contract a technician or have his own team that will work for him as these guys are constantly keeping up to date with everything. You would be paying a lesser amount due to a student with a lack of experience would be coming up with any drawings, potential ideas etc and the business will earn this as a whole the student themselves will pick up a salary, or paid as an intern. This of course means that they are paid dramatically less than a qualified architect/technician hence this is why the price you would pay is less. I (provided I am qualified) will oversee it to make sure that it is all compliant with building reg's etc. In this sense it would give the person paying for the services peace of mind that there is a qualified person at the helm and someone who of course would be accepting the blame if there were any liability. Any better :D |
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| Woodbine | Jul 8 2011, 11:22 PM Post #12 |
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Yep, thanks for that, Shadow. But you do say 'provided I am qualified', yet you propose to start this venture on leaving uni, at which point you won't be qualified. Perhaps this old brain of mine has addled more than I thought. :) |
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| Blue Raphealite | Jul 9 2011, 02:09 AM Post #13 |
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It isn't mate. :D And Shad's is not going to be the first to have thought of this idea. People investing in new build will want sureties, insurance cover and liabilities written in. They cost money. They will also want references, a CV of sorts such as a portfolio of completed work. Cutting corners and expecting a windfall is 'dellboy' thinking imo. Sorry Shads, but you've got to prove to a customer that you have the ability to deliver, the resources to cover mistakes etc and most of all the experience. No one with a brain, who could afford your scheme, would go near it. It's their money and they will want some security. Bottom line, can you afford to give them that ? Experience first - smart schemes later :D |
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