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One Thing From Yesterday; Hughton v McLeish
Topic Started: Aug 7 2011, 08:36 AM (1,042 Views)
Paul Kimber
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Hughton went out there to win yesterday whilst McLeish would of gone out not to lose **thumbup

Great to see attacking football in a Blues side again :kro:
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bluenoseboris
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It was not 4-4-2 was it. I appreciate the lack of strikers but that did not mean that we could not have played with 2 up front. Where was Redmond for example? I welcomed all the many comments pre-season about how our new manager would be much more attack minded but first game, first chance, only 1 up front.

Then we leak 2 goals in, have to score ourselves, and it was then only late into the game we started to go for it. (Just like most of last season)

Our lengthy sick list of our strikers goes someway to forgiving not playing 2 up front - not away to Man Utd, Not away to Chelsea, but against Derby.....Poor!

I was also disspointed by our managers reply after the game to the question; why leave Dann on the bench? Id have hoped for the truth which was that although fit (had to be or would not have been on the bench) he was not being risked as we need to sell him to get the money in. He was only sitting their as a sign to new buyers that he was fit. He may as well had a great big for sale sign hanging around his neck. Instead we were told that he didnt start as he had not played a lot of football lately. If he wasnt fit what was he doing on the bench?

Then if we were so much more attack minded, and given that certain players were fading fast towards the end of the game, why did we only make one sub? Lets face it - our new manager froze and when the game was calling out for Redmond (anyone) he did nothing. McLies was late in making subs, our new man didnt even make them.

So I wish Chris luck and ill welcome him next weekend but on the basis of this first match - sorry not good from the manager. Our defence leaked goals and he left Dann on the bench (is he not meant to be our best defender) and when behind and needing to score where was Redmond and why did we not use 2 other subs?

I think Chris will come good, and im sure we will see better next Sat against Cov where it must be 4-4-2. I think we have the best manager of the lot we looked at so im not anti him. Im just dissapointed. Sorry if most disagree with me. KRO.
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Trevor Francis
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I agree. When we lost with Mcleish there was nothing on this earth more frustrating!... But when we lost yesterday it wasnt even half as bad purely because we showed real attacking intent and imo we were unlucky to lose.

So bring on cov next week and we'll show the championship what were made of!

Im feeling a 3-1 **thumbup
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clapton bluenose
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Early days but to keep things in perspective swansea lost their first match so I won't start worrying yet.

The manager made a change and went 442 when he brought on wood's so no complaints there from me. We can't knock him for going with 4411 to start with as we only had one fit striker that had trained with the squad.

Perhaps he could have brought on redmond but if beausejour and burke were having good games and by all accounts they were who would he have taken off?

If yesterday is anything to go by then we are going in the right direction by actually trying to win as oppose to hoping to win from dead ball situations.

Chris Hughton is the man to lead blues back even if it takes several years.

Kro
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bluenose1875
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There is a massive difference between mcleish 451 and hughton 451. We now dont just launch the ball up to the 1.

I enjoyed the football we played yesterday which cant be said of many games under mcleish so lets give Hughton a chance as he's not getting much help from the board.
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bluenoseboris
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bluenose1875
Aug 7 2011, 09:25 AM
There is a massive difference between mcleish 451 and hughton 451. We now dont just launch the ball up to the 1.

I enjoyed the football we played yesterday which cant be said of many games under mcleish so lets give Hughton a chance as he's not getting much help from the board.

I would agree - however lets now see what we play against Cov. Will any of our other strikers be fit for next week though?????KRO
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My thoughts after yesterday's game.

Disappointed in Hughton's lack of substitutions ( a major criticism of mine regarding McLeish)
Disappointed that Fahey was played wide, out of position.
A major, major diasappointment with the two goals conceded and especially the goalkeeper.
-------------well that's got that off my chest--------------------


I was more than surprised how well we played and how we were on top, considering the side we have now.
Some of the football was sweet, nice multiple 1-2s, positive forward running and proper piercing passes.
Well impressed with Rooney - his attitude, his running, his determination and looks as though he is a goalscorer. He and Marlon King could do well up front.
Stephen Carr - say no more.
Liam Ridgewell - great attitude considering all the circumstances.
Absolutely great support. Great support.
All the fans seemed to be enjoying it again - no moans. Some sighs of disappointent, yes, but no moans. Overall enjoyment.
................and finally, no ginger **** on the touchline to wind me up.


Oh and by the way, I walked round to my newsagents this morning to pick up my Sunday Mercury and reading it whilst slowly walking back (as you do) and there is a comment in there from Jassyblue80.............you media tart!!!!!!!!!
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DavoHRE
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bluenoseboris
Aug 7 2011, 09:01 AM
It was not 4-4-2 was it. I appreciate the lack of strikers but that did not mean that we could not have played with 2 up front.

Did you watch the game?

It was more like a 4-3-2-1 with Burke and Beau probing. Night and day w/ McLeish's 4-5-1.

Also how about CH bringing on a striker for Fahey with a whole 30 mins left? McLeish would never have done this!

I too wanted to see Redmond but will trust in CH's judgement as it seems he A) knows what he's doing, B) wants to win, and C) is not a stubborn **** and is actually prepared to make changes when his lineup isn't working.
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BigJohn_SOTV
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To put things into perspective .. our 3 first choice strikers we're all out, it was Hughtons first leauge game in charge , we were away, and according to both managers we were unlucky to lose.

We will be more than fine **thumbup
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BigJohn_SOTV
Aug 7 2011, 11:04 AM
To put things into perspective .. our 3 first choice strikers we're all out, it was Hughtons first leauge game in charge , we were away, and according to both managers we were unlucky to lose.

We will be more than fine **thumbup

Yep. If we have that much attacking possession and create that many chances, we will win a lot of games in this division. We didn't deserve to lose yesterday based on the balance of play but that's football.
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The Concerned Potato Head
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bluenoseboris
Aug 7 2011, 09:01 AM
It was not 4-4-2 was it. I appreciate the lack of strikers but that did not mean that we could not have played with 2 up front. Where was Redmond for example? I welcomed all the many comments pre-season about how our new manager would be much more attack minded but first game, first chance, only 1 up front.

Then we leak 2 goals in, have to score ourselves, and it was then only late into the game we started to go for it. (Just like most of last season)

Our lengthy sick list of our strikers goes someway to forgiving not playing 2 up front - not away to Man Utd, Not away to Chelsea, but against Derby.....Poor!

I was also disspointed by our managers reply after the game to the question; why leave Dann on the bench? Id have hoped for the truth which was that although fit (had to be or would not have been on the bench) he was not being risked as we need to sell him to get the money in. He was only sitting their as a sign to new buyers that he was fit. He may as well had a great big for sale sign hanging around his neck. Instead we were told that he didnt start as he had not played a lot of football lately. If he wasnt fit what was he doing on the bench?

Then if we were so much more attack minded, and given that certain players were fading fast towards the end of the game, why did we only make one sub? Lets face it - our new manager froze and when the game was calling out for Redmond (anyone) he did nothing. McLies was late in making subs, our new man didnt even make them.

So I wish Chris luck and ill welcome him next weekend but on the basis of this first match - sorry not good from the manager. Our defence leaked goals and he left Dann on the bench (is he not meant to be our best defender) and when behind and needing to score where was Redmond and why did we not use 2 other subs?

I think Chris will come good, and im sure we will see better next Sat against Cov where it must be 4-4-2. I think we have the best manager of the lot we looked at so im not anti him. Im just dissapointed. Sorry if most disagree with me. KRO.

under McLeish we rarely created chances


we've been creating bagfuls of chances since Hughton's arrived but just not taken them

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Lowds you know me, got a lot to say lol

Was lifted off twitter ;-)
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It's such a relief to read all these reports commending our chaps for their attacking intent. Sure, it would have been nice to have got something out of the game but I'll settle for this after the abject boredom inflicted on us by McLeish.
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Aug 7 2011, 11:40 AM
It's such a relief to read all these reports commending our chaps for their attacking intent. Sure, it would have been nice to have got something out of the game but I'll settle for this after the abject boredom inflicted on us by McLeish.

I agree, its a good feeling that we seem to have a team that intends to attack and try and win games. The football served up under Mcdross was dire at best and before that fairly poor under Bruce. Once this side has time to gel and the transfer window shuts CH will get this side pushing for a premier league return imo. Lets just hope we dont lose too many more players before end of the month.

KRO
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leechy
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It does continue our run of not winning when using a lone front man to something like 20 league games, impressive.
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Was disappointed when Gomez and Beausejour were flagging towards the end he didn't introduce the pace of Redmond. He showed what he could do last week against far superior opposition.
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Aug 7 2011, 12:41 PM
Was disappointed when Gomez and Beausejour were flagging towards the end he didn't introduce the pace of Redmond. He showed what he could do last week against far superior opposition.

WHO? :LOL:
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Kops Loudmouth
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We went out to win, and lost...

hopefully with the same mindset and one or two players back from injury then we can make it reality
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Paul Kimber
Aug 7 2011, 08:36 AM
Hughton went out there to win yesterday whilst McLeish would of gone out not to lose **thumbup

Great to see attacking football in a Blues side again :kro:

Completely agree, its going to be an entertaining season and well happy we have got such a positive manager. Well done to the board for getting us CH.

On another note Im just watching West Ham and I can only think thank god we didnt end up with big Sam. I appreciate he gets results but from what Ive seen so far the football is not good. I regard West Ham as a decent footballing side who try to play but it seems they are happy to go more route one. Id be devastated if we had another blinkered, out dated manager playing the sort of stuff Judas and Bruce served up.....Hooooofffffff.

KRO
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I think we will need another striker to go with king, rooney and this....... wood :silence:

Because Jerome and Zigic will be off by the end of August.
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this year going to be a long hard difficult year :(
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I was also very surprised CH didn't make further substitutions against Everton last week, if only to avoid risk of injury to first team players. Again this week when a few players looked tired. This bothers me somewhat, but lets see what happens over the next few games.
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442,442, blah blah blah.

NO TOP TEAMS PLAY 442!!!!!!!!

442 leaves us overpowered in midfield, 442 is not the future . We do not need 442.

However 433 is an answer and I didn't understand why CH changed from the week before when we played so well?

433 with Beau and Burke pushing up around King would be excellent in this league , you could see Beau on Saturday he was all over the pitch wanting the ball, 433 is far more fluid, it also gives you a stronger midfield, once we went to 442 on saturday a massive gap between the midfield and forwards opened up and we became less of a force.

The only other thing is I would liked to have Redmond come on for the last 15 with the game opening up he COULD have changed things for us.

On the keeper , what did he do wrong???? I did blame him for the 2nd , but when you see the deflection, what could he have done??? foster or Hart would not have saved either attempt. Plus his distribution looked excellent!!!
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nothing wrong with 4-5-1 its all about the players you have to play it. Last week vs everton we had 2 good wingers who run at defenders and cross whereas under mcleish our wingers didnt really get at the full backs.if we had all our strikers then i dont doubt CH would go 442 i wouldnt have played redmond from the start i think he needs to be nurtured into a little more but id definatley give him some game time next week
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Aug 8 2011, 01:18 PM
442,442, blah blah blah.

NO TOP TEAMS PLAY 442!!!!!!!!

442 leaves us overpowered in midfield, 442 is not the future . We do not need 442.

However 433 is an answer and I didn't understand why CH changed from the week before when we played so well?

433 with Beau and Burke pushing up around King would be excellent in this league , you could see Beau on Saturday he was all over the pitch wanting the ball, 433 is far more fluid, it also gives you a stronger midfield, once we went to 442 on saturday a massive gap between the midfield and forwards opened up and we became less of a force.

The only other thing is I would liked to have Redmond come on for the last 15 with the game opening up he COULD have changed things for us.

On the keeper , what did he do wrong???? I did blame him for the 2nd , but when you see the deflection, what could he have done??? foster or Hart would not have saved either attempt. Plus his distribution looked excellent!!!

fantastic post man utd and chelsea both play 451 but when they attack its 4-3-3 which i think is a very good formation if you have the players
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