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A Relegation Battle On Our Hands; Squad too small for the Championship
Topic Started: Aug 21 2011, 06:01 PM (1,149 Views)
Mirkwood55
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Clearly the Norwich board over-reacted!! :LOL:
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Kyle-KRO
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With Mutch, Gomis, Cam, Ziga, King, and Ridgey out, it certainly makes what's already a paper thin squad that much more obvious...

We desperately need to add to the number, and I'm confused as to why LuaLua and Carts haven't been signed... Both Bosmans (which is likely all we can afford) in an ever declining market of serviceable Bosmans. Sign both, work savagely to bring in a couple more talented loanees, and sell Dann because it disgusts me to see the best centre half in the league sitting on the bench. If we can use those funds to bring in another player or two, do it.

Full strength we've one of the better teams in the league, but depleted as we are, our reserves aren't strong enough. Sign players and lets make a good fist of it.

I've no doubt we'll avoid relegation this season, and the doom and gloom merchants who're equally as certain that we'll be battling for survival all season remind me of chicken little; completely dramatic and frustrating.
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We need to add, add, add to our squad.

If we could bring in 3 or 4 good quality loanees, and a few more bosmans, and hopefully keep Jerome, then we can fight for midtable plus.

Any less and it'll be midtable downwards.
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arashi
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And who are these good players that clubs are eager to loan out????

How well did loaned players work out last season?
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kroblues
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There's a difference between loaning in young players who are desperately trying to prove themselves in order to get into their club's first team, like we did with Bendtner, Muamba and Larsson, and loaning in players who aren't good enough for their parent club's first team such as Hleb and Bentley.

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arashi
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Yes I know, I'm just pointing out it isn't as easy as saying "sign 4 good player on loan".

So my original question remains, who are these players available on loan who could have the desired impact?
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When Sunderland went up with Keane, they were bottom at this point!
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Roger Jones
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It's been obvious since the end of last season that things are seriously wrong in the Club. I'm disappointed that anyone who comes on here and states the obvious is put down and told to shut up.

Well, I believe it's time we faced the fact that championship survival will be an achievement, and I'm not sure we will make it. Our squad is now one of the weakest in the division and there are no signs of anything happening that will improve matters.

It happened to Leeds, Southampton and Charlton. Why should we be any different? It could get a lot worse.

Maybe we need to somehow demand that CY puts the Club up for sale? however, I'm not sure of how we'll ever find a buyer.


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DEdblue
Aug 21 2011, 07:22 PM
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Aug 21 2011, 06:36 PM
DEdblue
Aug 21 2011, 02:07 PM
I can tell you today we looked like a team destined for the drop..
first half.....ok
second half....poor,poor,poor.
Not a decent player amongst them.
I'm so very disillusioned about Blues this season... seen all 3 league games. < <

Do you live in the North ??

How could you be back from Teeside so soon if you live in the West Mids ??

You claim you saw the game :silence:

I saw the Coventry game and we were always on top

i was back in York for 6.0pm **thumbup
Wait a minute, I 've just read,, You claim you saw the game. < <

Just ignore that silliness.

Although I have to disagree with you. Thought we were the better side against both Derby and Coventry.

We're a midtable side. We'll win some, we'll lose some, and we'll even lose some by 2 or more goals.
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Kyle-KRO
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arashi
Aug 21 2011, 11:20 PM
So my original question remains, who are these players available on loan who could have the desired impact?

Here are a few players that may go out on loan, and would strengthen the squad...

Arsenal:
Benik Afobe
Henri Lansbury
Sanchez Watt

Chelski:
Gael Kakuta
Patrick van Aanholt
Josh McEachran (wishful thinking)

Everton:
James Wallace
Adam Forshaw

Fulham:
Lauri Dalla Valle
Rafik Halliche

Liverpool:
Danny Wilson
Daniel Pacheco
Jonjo Shelvey (wishful thinking)
Jack Robinson
Conor Coady

Manchester Citeh:
John Guidetti
Greg Cunningham
Vladiir Weiss (wishful thinking)
Dedryck Boyata

ManU:
Mame Biram Diouf
Ravel Morrison
Paul Pogba

Spurs:
Jake Livermore
Harry Kane
John Bostock
Danny Rose (wishful thinking)
Giovani dos Santos (extremely wishful thinking)
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kroblues
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arashi
Aug 21 2011, 11:20 PM
Yes I know, I'm just pointing out it isn't as easy as saying "sign 4 good player on loan".

So my original question remains, who are these players available on loan who could have the desired impact?

Off the top of my head, should Arsenal get a central midfielder in then I reckon we could go for Lansbury. Sanchez Watt would also probably be good as cover, played well for Leeds last year from what I gather.

From Utd I think there are a load of players in their reserves that would probably improve us, the best being Pogba.

If we could get Van Aanholt from Chelsea he'd be a good player for us too, and would certainly be handy to have should Dann leave, as it would allow Ridgewell to move into the centre. A great signing would be Josh McEachran, but I doubt Chelsea would loan him out to a Championship club, probably to a lower Premier League team if he were available.

That's just from 3 teams, the players are out there but tbh I have no real idea about the young players from other teams, the ones I've picked out are either obvious (McEachran) or I've heard a bit about, like Watt.
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PA_nomore!
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Not enough goals being scored, too many being conceded

Our situation will be significantly improved by the return of King - he's a top striker in this league. Add Jerome to that and we're away.

Look at the bigger picture. There's 40 odd games to go and we'll be in a much better position when the transfer window closes and injuries ease up.

I'm sorry to say - Caldwell for me isn't good enough. I would play Ridgewell there in a heartbeat and get Murphy in at left back.

We will be fine, but we're not going up without any investment. If everyone remained fit and we had Carr, Davies, Dann, Ridgewell, Burke, Redmond, Beausejour, Mutch, King and Jerome playing every week we would walk the league. Early showings with a myriad of injuries clearly demonstrates that's very unlikely.

We need a new permanent goal scorer with loans to bolster the squad in midfield and defence. Easier said than done... but let's wait and see what happens. Hughton and Pannu are doing their best, as such we should continue to give them our support whilst constructively voicing our concerns.
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Aug 21 2011, 08:12 PM
 
Here are a few players that may go out on loan, and would strengthen the squad...

Liverpool:
Danny Wilson
Daniel Pacheco
Jonjo Shelvey (wishful thinking)
Jack Robinson
Conor Coady


I read somewhere there was talk of the Scott Dann deal with Liverpool involving Danny Wilson and Jonjo Shelvey coming the other way in a player plus cash deal

But I also heard Liverpooll would prefer to let the youngsters go out on loan rather than let them go to another club permanently

We could still do the loan option if the board put their heads together




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Aug 22 2011, 03:13 AM
Kyle-KRO
Aug 21 2011, 08:12 PM
 
Here are a few players that may go out on loan, and would strengthen the squad...

Liverpool:
Danny Wilson
Daniel Pacheco
Jonjo Shelvey (wishful thinking)
Jack Robinson
Conor Coady


I read somewhere there was talk of the Scott Dann deal with Liverpool involving Danny Wilson and Jonjo Shelvey coming the other way in a player plus cash deal

But I also heard Liverpooll would prefer to let the youngsters go out on loan rather than let them go to another club permanently

We could still do the loan option if the board put their heads together




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Danny Wilson AND Jonjo Shelvey? :dancer:

Even if were just on loan, those two would be a massive lift to the squad.

I'm very interested to see how Hughton uses (or is allowed to use) these final days leading to the close of the window.
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arashi
Aug 21 2011, 11:03 PM
And who are these good players that clubs are eager to loan out????

How well did loaned players work out last season?

What do you suggest. Stay as we are? At the current rate of injuries we will have 3 kids on the bench at Watford and that will be another 3 points lost.
We all know what it's like being trapped in the bottom 3 , it takes months to recover or worse still you don't recover.
It's good to be pesimistic but sometimes in life you have to face reality and that's what Pannu and his colleagues need to do. We need to strengthen the squad in the next few days or we will be RELEGATED!!!!
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I love you blues :wub:
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Remember those catchphrases from Dads army We`re doomed and Dont panic.
So are we doomed with all our best players out it may look that way at the moment But Jerome is on his way back as is Marlon King with Zigic to follow so assuming we keep them and its still a possibillity we keep Scot Dann

Dont panic YET


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It seems to me there are a lot of people are missing the whole point of this thread, `chuldt` has quite clearly made a very valid point the squad desperately needs strenghtening, yet some people are not backing up their `dont panic` statements with constructive reasons not to be concerned or alarmed by the state of the squad we have !

Its no good people relying on the likes of Ridgewell, Jerome, Dann and Zigic, because its fairly obvious these players will either be 1) sold before the end of the transfer window by Pannu or 2) are not interested in playing for us because they have bigger fish to fry.

So my question to you `dont panic` guys is this, when would it be best to be concerned ? Now, or when its too late in january ?

KRO
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Aug 22 2011, 11:02 PM
It seems to me there are a lot of people are missing the whole point of this thread, `chuldt` has quite clearly made a very valid point the squad desperately needs strenghtening, yet some people are not backing up their `dont panic` statements with constructive reasons not to be concerned or alarmed by the state of the squad we have !

Its no good people relying on the likes of Ridgewell, Jerome, Dann and Zigic, because its fairly obvious these players will either be 1) sold before the end of the transfer window by Pannu or 2) are not interested in playing for us because they have bigger fish to fry.

So my question to you `dont panic` guys is this, when would it be best to be concerned ? Now, or when its too late in january ?

KRO

but either way what can you or I do whether we panic or not panic????
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Aug 22 2011, 10:02 PM
It seems to me there are a lot of people are missing the whole point of this thread, `chuldt` has quite clearly made a very valid point the squad desperately needs strenghtening, yet some people are not backing up their `dont panic` statements with constructive reasons not to be concerned or alarmed by the state of the squad we have !

Its no good people relying on the likes of Ridgewell, Jerome, Dann and Zigic, because its fairly obvious these players will either be 1) sold before the end of the transfer window by Pannu or 2) are not interested in playing for us because they have bigger fish to fry.

So my question to you `dont panic` guys is this, when would it be best to be concerned ? Now, or when its too late in january ?

KRO

Honestly, I believe a better time than now to decide whether to panic or not will be 1 September.

It's obvious to all that once you go beyond the main core of players, Blues desperately lack in quality cover and competition. I'm holding out hope some beneficial additions will be made, and we'll be battling on the right side of the table.

If this is not addressed by 1 September I will likely join those who are already panicking, but 3 matches into league play and over a week remaining to sort it out, I'm not joining in with the doom and gloomers or the panicked supporters just yet.
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Aug 22 2011, 10:11 PM
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Aug 22 2011, 10:02 PM
It seems to me there are a lot of people are missing the whole point of this thread, `chuldt` has quite clearly made a very valid point the squad desperately needs strenghtening, yet some people are not backing up their `dont panic` statements with constructive reasons not to be concerned or alarmed by the state of the squad we have !

Its no good people relying on the likes of Ridgewell, Jerome, Dann and Zigic, because its fairly obvious these players will either be 1) sold before the end of the transfer window by Pannu or 2) are not interested in playing for us because they have bigger fish to fry.

So my question to you `dont panic` guys is this, when would it be best to be concerned ? Now, or when its too late in january ?

KRO

Honestly, I believe a better time than now to decide whether to panic or not will be 1 September.

It's obvious to all that once you go beyond the main core of players, Blues desperately lack in quality cover and competition. I'm holding out hope some beneficial additions will be made, and we'll be battling on the right side of the table.

If this is not addressed by 1 September I will likely join those who are already panicking, but 3 matches into league play and over a week remaining to sort it out, I'm not joining in with the doom and gloomers or the panicked supporters just yet.

Yes. I may wait till Sept 1st like you then pannick lol. KRO!!!!

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bluesfanCA
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tbf to all the doom and gloom sayers judging the table this early in the year.. our 2 league losses came to the 2nd and 3rd teams in the table.

things will start looking up

KRO
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Aug 22 2011, 10:17 PM
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Aug 22 2011, 10:02 PM
It seems to me there are a lot of people are missing the whole point of this thread, `chuldt` has quite clearly made a very valid point the squad desperately needs strenghtening, yet some people are not backing up their `dont panic` statements with constructive reasons not to be concerned or alarmed by the state of the squad we have !

Its no good people relying on the likes of Ridgewell, Jerome, Dann and Zigic, because its fairly obvious these players will either be 1) sold before the end of the transfer window by Pannu or 2) are not interested in playing for us because they have bigger fish to fry.

So my question to you `dont panic` guys is this, when would it be best to be concerned ? Now, or when its too late in january ?

KRO

Honestly, I believe a better time than now to decide whether to panic or not will be 1 September.

It's obvious to all that once you go beyond the main core of players, Blues desperately lack in quality cover and competition. I'm holding out hope some beneficial additions will be made, and we'll be battling on the right side of the table.

If this is not addressed by 1 September I will likely join those who are already panicking, but 3 matches into league play and over a week remaining to sort it out, I'm not joining in with the doom and gloomers or the panicked supporters just yet.

Yes. I may wait till Sept 1st like you then pannick lol. KRO!!!!

:LOL:

Now I'm not suggesting that if Blues don't add by then that we should all begin the panic process 1 September, of course, I'm just saying that if you're going to panic it would be much more understandable to do it then than it does now when there's still time to address it. **thumbup
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Aug 22 2011, 10:30 PM
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Aug 22 2011, 10:17 PM
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Aug 22 2011, 10:11 PM
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Aug 22 2011, 10:02 PM
It seems to me there are a lot of people are missing the whole point of this thread, `chuldt` has quite clearly made a very valid point the squad desperately needs strenghtening, yet some people are not backing up their `dont panic` statements with constructive reasons not to be concerned or alarmed by the state of the squad we have !

Its no good people relying on the likes of Ridgewell, Jerome, Dann and Zigic, because its fairly obvious these players will either be 1) sold before the end of the transfer window by Pannu or 2) are not interested in playing for us because they have bigger fish to fry.

So my question to you `dont panic` guys is this, when would it be best to be concerned ? Now, or when its too late in january ?

KRO

Honestly, I believe a better time than now to decide whether to panic or not will be 1 September.

It's obvious to all that once you go beyond the main core of players, Blues desperately lack in quality cover and competition. I'm holding out hope some beneficial additions will be made, and we'll be battling on the right side of the table.

If this is not addressed by 1 September I will likely join those who are already panicking, but 3 matches into league play and over a week remaining to sort it out, I'm not joining in with the doom and gloomers or the panicked supporters just yet.

Yes. I may wait till Sept 1st like you then pannick lol. KRO!!!!

:LOL:

Now I'm not suggesting that if Blues don't add by then that we should all begin the panic process 1 September, of course, I'm just saying that if you're going to panic it would be much more understandable to do it then than it does now when there's still time to address it. **thumbup

Oi dont ruin it. Pannicking is part of the fun with being a Bluenose lmao. KRO!!!!
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Aug 22 2011, 10:41 PM
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Aug 22 2011, 10:30 PM
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Aug 22 2011, 10:17 PM
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Aug 22 2011, 10:11 PM
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Aug 22 2011, 10:02 PM
It seems to me there are a lot of people are missing the whole point of this thread, `chuldt` has quite clearly made a very valid point the squad desperately needs strenghtening, yet some people are not backing up their `dont panic` statements with constructive reasons not to be concerned or alarmed by the state of the squad we have !

Its no good people relying on the likes of Ridgewell, Jerome, Dann and Zigic, because its fairly obvious these players will either be 1) sold before the end of the transfer window by Pannu or 2) are not interested in playing for us because they have bigger fish to fry.

So my question to you `dont panic` guys is this, when would it be best to be concerned ? Now, or when its too late in january ?

KRO

Honestly, I believe a better time than now to decide whether to panic or not will be 1 September.

It's obvious to all that once you go beyond the main core of players, Blues desperately lack in quality cover and competition. I'm holding out hope some beneficial additions will be made, and we'll be battling on the right side of the table.

If this is not addressed by 1 September I will likely join those who are already panicking, but 3 matches into league play and over a week remaining to sort it out, I'm not joining in with the doom and gloomers or the panicked supporters just yet.

Yes. I may wait till Sept 1st like you then pannick lol. KRO!!!!

:LOL:

Now I'm not suggesting that if Blues don't add by then that we should all begin the panic process 1 September, of course, I'm just saying that if you're going to panic it would be much more understandable to do it then than it does now when there's still time to address it. **thumbup

Oi dont ruin it. Pannicking is part of the fun with being a Bluenose lmao. KRO!!!!

Well in that case...

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Feel free to push the button. **thumbup
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