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This "love In" With Bruges Fans
Topic Started: Nov 8 2011, 01:41 AM (2,780 Views)
bluego
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This will undoubtedly cause me some cyber grief but I left it till after the game because I do not see Bruges fans in the same light as most on here. After the game at their ground there were a couple of incidents in which one Blues fan was kicked into hospital and another in which a father was attacked whilst with his 2 sons. The first incident was recorded on FB on the Blues Europa travel page and read as follows:- My bro got jumped in brugges 4 broken ribs punctured lung, broken eye socket, 10 impact wounds to his head w---ers.
Then we have what happened before the game when they tried to attack probably the most non "laddish" pub that Blues fans use the Adam and Eve last week, a pub frequented by more liberal, politically correct love and peace to all men type of Blues fan. Bottles were thrown at the pub from within a police escort.
Finally something that has angered me the most, more so because no action was taken and that was the jumping up and down and monkey noises being directed at some of our black fans in the ground. Now I have never heard of any villa fans making monkey noises at our black fans yet you most of you sing songs about defacating on the villa and coming back up, winning the cup and kicking ---- out of them? I am quite sure that if I were to make monkey noises and monkey type gesticulations at a black away fan I would now be in prison and banned for life from St Andrews.
The attacks in Bruges were carried out by cowards when the Blues fans were alone and the bottling of the Adam and the monkey noises were done when protected by the police.
As said I didn't write about the attacks in Bruges as it could have been seen as an attempt to stir things up but I think it is relevant now.
Hopefully on my trip to Braga I will meet some lovely Portuguese people and we can chew the cud over a nice glass of sagres and a bowl of fish stew before I get too drunk and start singing about defacating on B6.
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lordnewtown
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bluego
Nov 8 2011, 01:41 AM
This will undoubtedly cause me some cyber grief but I left it till after the game because I do not see Bruges fans in the same light as most on here. After the game at their ground there were a couple of incidents in which one Blues fan was kicked into hospital and another in which a father was attacked whilst with his 2 sons. The first incident was recorded on FB on the Blues Europa travel page and read as follows:- My bro got jumped in brugges 4 broken ribs punctured lung, broken eye socket, 10 impact wounds to his head w---ers.
Then we have what happened before the game when they tried to attack probably the most non "laddish" pub that Blues fans use the Adam and Eve last week, a pub frequented by more liberal, politically correct love and peace to all men type of Blues fan. Bottles were thrown at the pub from within a police escort.
Finally something that has angered me the most, more so because no action was taken and that was the jumping up and down and monkey noises being directed at some of our black fans in the ground. Now I have never heard of any villa fans making monkey noises at our black fans yet you most of you sing songs about defacating on the villa and coming back up, winning the cup and kicking ---- out of them? I am quite sure that if I were to make monkey noises and monkey type gesticulations at a black away fan I would now be in prison and banned for life from St Andrews.
The attacks in Bruges were carried out by cowards when the Blues fans were alone and the bottling of the Adam and the monkey noises were done when protected by the police.
As said I didn't write about the attacks in Bruges as it could have been seen as an attempt to stir things up but I think it is relevant now.
Hopefully on my trip to Braga I will meet some lovely Portuguese people and we can chew the cud over a nice glass of sagres and a bowl of fish stew before I get too drunk and start singing about defacating on B6.

APPLAUSE!

Don't mention the racism as I did in another thread or you'll be accused of lying!

Yeah, to me the Bruges fans were no different to many sets of fans I've seen. I just think that because so many Blues fans went there, the fact we won, the fact they brought a lot here and we got a good draw, and the fact that there are one or two very decent Bruges fans on this messageboard, has somehow tainted a lot of our fans view into thinking that they're somehow our best friends.

We actually have very good relations with a few teams/fans: Albion and Norwich spring to mind. Bruges are perhaps just another one like that.

But yeah, agree with you.
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sebbonny
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Racists between our fans? Probably, you have racists everywhere! That doesn't mean all our fans are like that. The incidents you state, seem rather small to me.

I heard a bar/pub was attacked, and I disagree with the people who did that. That's for sure.

Oh and by the way, two blues-fans were arrested the night before the game in Brugge as well, because they were misbehaving. You'll always have (minor) incidents, but I think you can agree the two games were very friendly in general.
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sebbonny
Nov 8 2011, 08:28 AM
Racists between our fans? Probably, you have racists everywhere! That doesn't mean all our fans are like that. The incidents you state, seem rather small to me.

I heard a bar/pub was attacked, and I disagree with the people who did that. That's for sure.

Oh and by the way, two blues-fans were arrested the night before the game in Brugge as well, because they were misbehaving. You'll always have (minor) incidents, but I think you can agree the two games were very friendly in general.

Sebonny its good to look back and reflect because some of us know just how bad it could all have been,yes there was minor incidents we have all heard about but overall across the two games it was definitely the positives of both clubs that made the headlines.
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Trigger
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Sorry Bluego I couldn’t disagree with you more here.

Things happen they always do, but Bruges and its fans has been nothing but positive for me and a great experience.

Focus on the negatives if you wish but I have enjoyed every moment meeting them over there and in the Arcadian here.

All the best to the Bruges lads, I’m back over in the summer with Mrs Trigger and Junior Trigger for a family break.

…….I’m expecting a slightly different few days this time with less :lager:
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the_garbage
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bluego, there were loads of positives to take from our 2 games against Brugges. Blues fans have a TERRIBLE reputation and away fans are regularly attacked at St Andrews by our so called 'fans'.

Did you see that video of Blues fans in Maribor throwing bottles at innocent people? Were you vocal then as you are now?

There are idiots that follow every team in the world and this meeting with Brugges has helped us mend a bit of the damage that we have caused in the past.

With 5,500 Blues fans in Brugges and 3,500 Brugges fans in Brum, the number of incidents were so tiny. I was pleasantly surprised there was no big stories for the British tabloids to crucify us with.

KRO.

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porky
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The whole experience was superb for me. You can go to any town centre most nights and find trouble. I don't see what the point is in hilighting a couple of minor problems during an occasion watched by over 25000 people. To me the only negative was the lack of media coverave for the 23rd minute applause, didn't see one mention of it in the press. I wonder what would have been said if there was a pitch invasion or fight in the stands? I bet the press would have told everyone then!
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Bluego, are you seriously suggesting that Brugge have more than their share of raving loonies- at least more than we ourselves? It would be naive in the extreme to suppose that virtually every club in Europe does not have a coterie of mindless idiots and Brugge would be no exception. Unfortunately football attracts such riff raff but for all it's problems I can honestly say that that night in Brugge was one of the best I've spent in over fifty years as a Blues fan with the highlight being the observance of the minutes applause by Blues fans.

It seems pretty obvious from the tone of some of your earlier posts that you have adopted an 'adverserial' position (to say the the least) and both before and after the match you consciously sought to accentuate the negative. May I suggest you take a good look at yourselves before blaming others? The people of Brugge are certainly no angels but you are mostly on your own if you wish to devalue the positive experience I along with thousands of other Blues fans had on that memorable night.
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If we had played these games 15 years ago, the only reports you would have seen in the papers would have been about the violence! So to harp on about the MINOR incidents that went on during the two matches is just stupid. In Bruge I actually saw some of our lads, (lads who are known to be mindless idiots) behaving themselves, enjoying the party atmosphere with everyone else, which surprised me! They were the last people I would have wanted to meet at a very boozy afternoon before a football match. So all in all, I think that the way 99.9% of the supporters behaved at both matches deserves all the congratulations they are getting. I think the officials of both clubs had a sigh of relief when it was all over after our past history & reputation.
Don't get me wrong though, racial chants & "monkey" mimicking has no place in football or anywhere else, & those who do it deserve everything they get...........!
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bluego
Nov 8 2011, 01:41 AM
This will undoubtedly cause me some cyber grief but I left it till after the game because I do not see Bruges fans in the same light as most on here. After the game at their ground there were a couple of incidents in which one Blues fan was kicked into hospital and another in which a father was attacked whilst with his 2 sons. The first incident was recorded on FB on the Blues Europa travel page and read as follows:- My bro got jumped in brugges 4 broken ribs punctured lung, broken eye socket, 10 impact wounds to his head w---ers.
Then we have what happened before the game when they tried to attack probably the most non "laddish" pub that Blues fans use the Adam and Eve last week, a pub frequented by more liberal, politically correct love and peace to all men type of Blues fan. Bottles were thrown at the pub from within a police escort.
Finally something that has angered me the most, more so because no action was taken and that was the jumping up and down and monkey noises being directed at some of our black fans in the ground. Now I have never heard of any villa fans making monkey noises at our black fans yet you most of you sing songs about defacating on the villa and coming back up, winning the cup and kicking ---- out of them? I am quite sure that if I were to make monkey noises and monkey type gesticulations at a black away fan I would now be in prison and banned for life from St Andrews.
The attacks in Bruges were carried out by cowards when the Blues fans were alone and the bottling of the Adam and the monkey noises were done when protected by the police.
As said I didn't write about the attacks in Bruges as it could have been seen as an attempt to stir things up but I think it is relevant now.
Hopefully on my trip to Braga I will meet some lovely Portuguese people and we can chew the cud over a nice glass of sagres and a bowl of fish stew before I get too drunk and start singing about defacating on B6.

Bluego,

Am I right in sayin that I have seen some of your previous posts that say you wasnt in Bruges for the game ?

The friendship between the clubs was born in Bruges, only people that were there can understand how that night went. TV covergae doesnt really tell the story And other posters opinions on here can tell you a story but when somebody says "you had to be there to appreciate it" this is certainly true in this case.

I can agree with what you're saying to a certain extent but EVERY club has a minority. 1% of Blues fans were probably up for something naughty and I'm sure 1% of Bruges fans were up for the same. This is the same for any club all across Europe but I am not going to tarnish the relationship between the clubs because of this minority because the other 99% of fans from both sets of clubs would prefer the 1% to stay at home.

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greenwayarms
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I'm not sure where you want to go with this?

The attack on the Blues fan was bad, the bottles thing handbags and the racism is disputed. I can't comment on the allegation but they seem to have a number of black players that they adore

But regardless what is the alternative a 'hate in'??

The whole experience seems to have been a massive positive for both clubs. Having so many away supporters at Stans with the only 'fighting' being the battle of wills and voices was great. That is what we want to take forward.

It seems that some Bristol 'fans' rocked up at Wet Spam recently running down Green St attacking families and scarfers. No doubt they thought it would increase their profile at a club with a well known reputation. All it does in my eyes is prove what cowardly **** they are. Now the Wet Spam 'boys' are muttering dark threats of revenge for the return fixture or ambushing Bristol at a neutral ground.

Is that what you want for the Blues? For some of our lot to teach Johnny Foreigner a lesson whilst their's test themselves aginst the famous Zulu's?

The whole Bruges thing was fantastic and we should build on this showing the world that we have a partizan, vociferous and massive support prepared to 'battle' with the opposition fans during the game but have a pint and a laff with them before and after.
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RyansDad
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greenwayarms
Nov 8 2011, 11:45 AM
I'm not sure where you want to go with this?

The attack on the Blues fan was bad, the bottles thing handbags and the racism is disputed. I can't comment on the allegation but they seem to have a number of black players that they adore

But regardless what is the alternative a 'hate in'??

The whole experience seems to have been a massive positive for both clubs. Having so many away supporters at Stans with the only 'fighting' being the battle of wills and voices was great. That is what we want to take forward.

It seems that some Bristol 'fans' rocked up at Wet Spam recently running down Green St attacking families and scarfers. No doubt they thought it would increase their profile at a club with a well known reputation. All it does in my eyes is prove what cowardly **** they are. Now the Wet Spam 'boys' are muttering dark threats of revenge for the return fixture or ambushing Bristol at a neutral ground.

Is that what you want for the Blues? For some of our lot to teach Johnny Foreigner a lesson whilst their's test themselves aginst the famous Zulu's?

The whole Bruges thing was fantastic and we should build on this showing the world that we have a partizan, vociferous and massive support prepared to 'battle' with the opposition fans during the game but have a pint and a laff with them before and after.

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bloonose123
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I was drinking outside the Adam and Eve with some mates as the Bruges fans were escorted up Bradford st. The police made a line on Bradford st where the Adam and Eve is - When the Bruges fans arrived we were met with a load of Beer cans thrown from them, in response we sang "were Birmingham were Birmingham were Birmingham City" - the Bruges fans response was to try and break through the police line to get at us - the police with dogs were gone ballistic and Bruges fans evebtually broke through the police line - the police were going nuts and forced us back into the pub - the Land lady was bricking herself - Was surpirised that the police escorted the Bruges fans up Bradford st instead of through Digbeth tbh.

Yea they certainly had more than a few Hoolies with them.

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lordnewtown
Nov 8 2011, 06:31 AM
bluego
Nov 8 2011, 01:41 AM
This will undoubtedly cause me some cyber grief but I left it till after the game because I do not see Bruges fans in the same light as most on here. After the game at their ground there were a couple of incidents in which one Blues fan was kicked into hospital and another in which a father was attacked whilst with his 2 sons.  The first incident was recorded on FB on the Blues Europa travel page and read as follows:- My bro got jumped in brugges 4 broken ribs punctured lung, broken eye socket, 10 impact wounds to his head w---ers.
Then we have what happened before the game when they tried to attack probably the most non "laddish" pub that Blues fans use the Adam and Eve last week, a pub frequented by more liberal, politically correct love and peace to all men type of Blues fan. Bottles were thrown at the pub from within a police escort.
Finally something that has angered me the most, more so because no action was taken and that was the jumping up and down and monkey noises being directed at some of our black fans in the ground. Now I have never heard of any villa fans making monkey noises at our black fans yet you most of you sing songs about defacating on the villa and coming back up, winning the cup and kicking ---- out of them?  I am quite sure that if I were to make monkey noises and monkey type gesticulations at a black away fan I would now be in prison and banned for life from St Andrews.
The attacks in Bruges were carried out by cowards when the Blues fans were alone and the bottling of the Adam and the monkey noises were done when protected by the police.
As said I didn't write about the attacks in Bruges as it could have been seen as an attempt to stir things up but I think it is relevant now.
Hopefully on my trip to Braga I will meet some lovely Portuguese people and we can chew the cud over a nice glass of sagres and a bowl of fish stew before I get too drunk and start singing about defacating on B6.

APPLAUSE!

Don't mention the racism as I did in another thread or you'll be accused of lying!

Yeah, to me the Bruges fans were no different to many sets of fans I've seen. I just think that because so many Blues fans went there, the fact we won, the fact they brought a lot here and we got a good draw, and the fact that there are one or two very decent Bruges fans on this messageboard, has somehow tainted a lot of our fans view into thinking that they're somehow our best friends.

We actually have very good relations with a few teams/fans: Albion and Norwich spring to mind. Bruges are perhaps just another one like that.

But yeah, agree with you.

Obviously I wasn't there but mates of mine said the Leeds fans were far more passionate a week earler.
My main hang up was this clapping at minute 23 in memory of an idiot who was driving his car at 125 mph and who could have killed many innocent people. I can think of far better cases to pay respects, in fact I cannot think of many worse.
The Blues fans were silent for the first 23 minutes of the game waiting for the clapping which led to Bruges getting the upper hand in the first half and going 2 nil up.
Anyway it's done and dusted now so each to his own.
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cmacatini
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Whole experience was brilliant for me

Very friendly fans - very special European nights the both of them
Great noise, great songs, great atmosphere, great adventure

Get a few idiots everywhere, but please don't let that shaddow reputation for vast majority of supporters on both sides who created two of the best times I've had as a Bham supporter in over 40 years

Glad we supported the 23rd min applause for up and coming star who sadly died whatever the cicumstances. He obviously meant alot to the Bruges fans, and we respected that

Hopefully we'll play Bruges in the final


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bluego
Nov 8 2011, 06:17 PM
The Blues fans were silent for the first 23 minutes of the game waiting for the clapping which led to Bruges getting the upper hand in the first half and going 2 nil up.

Oh, that's why we were 0-2 down, I did wonder.
Nothing to do with giving the ball away and not marking your man?
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the_garbage
Nov 8 2011, 06:09 PM
bluego
Nov 8 2011, 06:17 PM
The Blues fans were silent for the first 23 minutes of the game waiting for the clapping which led to Bruges getting the upper hand in the first half and going 2 nil up.

Oh, that's why we were 0-2 down, I did wonder.
Nothing to do with giving the ball away and not marking your man?

Bluego's moral is clear: never, ever behave decently otherwise your team is doomed.
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RyansDad
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I think Bluego would think differently if he'd attended the games.

Theres trouble out there, for all that want to look for it, they will find it.

How many blues fans clapped the Brugges fans at the end of the games? And Vice versa.

The minority will always be there no matter what, up and down ther country and across europe.

so I guess the minority from both clubs never got to meet, wasnt that a good thing for our club, at least we wasnt on the back pages for something else.









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bluego
Nov 8 2011, 05:17 PM
lordnewtown
Nov 8 2011, 06:31 AM
bluego
Nov 8 2011, 01:41 AM
This will undoubtedly cause me some cyber grief but I left it till after the game because I do not see Bruges fans in the same light as most on here. After the game at their ground there were a couple of incidents in which one Blues fan was kicked into hospital and another in which a father was attacked whilst with his 2 sons.  The first incident was recorded on FB on the Blues Europa travel page and read as follows:- My bro got jumped in brugges 4 broken ribs punctured lung, broken eye socket, 10 impact wounds to his head w---ers.
Then we have what happened before the game when they tried to attack probably the most non "laddish" pub that Blues fans use the Adam and Eve last week, a pub frequented by more liberal, politically correct love and peace to all men type of Blues fan. Bottles were thrown at the pub from within a police escort.
Finally something that has angered me the most, more so because no action was taken and that was the jumping up and down and monkey noises being directed at some of our black fans in the ground. Now I have never heard of any villa fans making monkey noises at our black fans yet you most of you sing songs about defacating on the villa and coming back up, winning the cup and kicking ---- out of them?  I am quite sure that if I were to make monkey noises and monkey type gesticulations at a black away fan I would now be in prison and banned for life from St Andrews.
The attacks in Bruges were carried out by cowards when the Blues fans were alone and the bottling of the Adam and the monkey noises were done when protected by the police.
As said I didn't write about the attacks in Bruges as it could have been seen as an attempt to stir things up but I think it is relevant now.
Hopefully on my trip to Braga I will meet some lovely Portuguese people and we can chew the cud over a nice glass of sagres and a bowl of fish stew before I get too drunk and start singing about defacating on B6.

APPLAUSE!

Don't mention the racism as I did in another thread or you'll be accused of lying!

Yeah, to me the Bruges fans were no different to many sets of fans I've seen. I just think that because so many Blues fans went there, the fact we won, the fact they brought a lot here and we got a good draw, and the fact that there are one or two very decent Bruges fans on this messageboard, has somehow tainted a lot of our fans view into thinking that they're somehow our best friends.

We actually have very good relations with a few teams/fans: Albion and Norwich spring to mind. Bruges are perhaps just another one like that.

But yeah, agree with you.

Obviously I wasn't there but mates of mine said the Leeds fans were far more passionate a week earler.
My main hang up was this clapping at minute 23 in memory of an idiot who was driving his car at 125 mph and who could have killed many innocent people. I can think of far better cases to pay respects, in fact I cannot think of many worse.
The Blues fans were silent for the first 23 minutes of the game waiting for the clapping which led to Bruges getting the upper hand in the first half and going 2 nil up.
Anyway it's done and dusted now so each to his own.

:applause: :applause: yeah well done bluego you're going to Brago from somewhere and are spending more cash doing so than most... you're comments from what I have read have been 'antagonistic' at best for someone who has not experienced any of the Europa games yet.

wish it, want it and you'll likely find it.

There are probably incidents from some of the 'LuLu's' that are deserved and some that are not, but your hearsay post is just sad.

Enjoy Braga, if you can.
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bluego
Nov 8 2011, 05:17 PM
lordnewtown
Nov 8 2011, 06:31 AM
bluego
Nov 8 2011, 01:41 AM
This will undoubtedly cause me some cyber grief but I left it till after the game because I do not see Bruges fans in the same light as most on here. After the game at their ground there were a couple of incidents in which one Blues fan was kicked into hospital and another in which a father was attacked whilst with his 2 sons.  The first incident was recorded on FB on the Blues Europa travel page and read as follows:- My bro got jumped in brugges 4 broken ribs punctured lung, broken eye socket, 10 impact wounds to his head w---ers.
Then we have what happened before the game when they tried to attack probably the most non "laddish" pub that Blues fans use the Adam and Eve last week, a pub frequented by more liberal, politically correct love and peace to all men type of Blues fan. Bottles were thrown at the pub from within a police escort.
Finally something that has angered me the most, more so because no action was taken and that was the jumping up and down and monkey noises being directed at some of our black fans in the ground. Now I have never heard of any villa fans making monkey noises at our black fans yet you most of you sing songs about defacating on the villa and coming back up, winning the cup and kicking ---- out of them?  I am quite sure that if I were to make monkey noises and monkey type gesticulations at a black away fan I would now be in prison and banned for life from St Andrews.
The attacks in Bruges were carried out by cowards when the Blues fans were alone and the bottling of the Adam and the monkey noises were done when protected by the police.
As said I didn't write about the attacks in Bruges as it could have been seen as an attempt to stir things up but I think it is relevant now.
Hopefully on my trip to Braga I will meet some lovely Portuguese people and we can chew the cud over a nice glass of sagres and a bowl of fish stew before I get too drunk and start singing about defacating on B6.

APPLAUSE!

Don't mention the racism as I did in another thread or you'll be accused of lying!

Yeah, to me the Bruges fans were no different to many sets of fans I've seen. I just think that because so many Blues fans went there, the fact we won, the fact they brought a lot here and we got a good draw, and the fact that there are one or two very decent Bruges fans on this messageboard, has somehow tainted a lot of our fans view into thinking that they're somehow our best friends.

We actually have very good relations with a few teams/fans: Albion and Norwich spring to mind. Bruges are perhaps just another one like that.

But yeah, agree with you.

Obviously I wasn't there but mates of mine said the Leeds fans were far more passionate a week earler.
My main hang up was this clapping at minute 23 in memory of an idiot who was driving his car at 125 mph and who could have killed many innocent people. I can think of far better cases to pay respects, in fact I cannot think of many worse.
The Blues fans were silent for the first 23 minutes of the game waiting for the clapping which led to Bruges getting the upper hand in the first half and going 2 nil up.
Anyway it's done and dusted now so each to his own.

Tell you what mate. if you're that unhappy about this game, the atmosphere, the support, the opposing supporters then please, please don't go to Blues Millwall, or Blues Cardiff, or Blues, etc, etc. Because we will never here the last of it.
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who nose
Nov 8 2011, 09:12 PM
bluego
Nov 8 2011, 05:17 PM
lordnewtown
Nov 8 2011, 06:31 AM
bluego
Nov 8 2011, 01:41 AM
This will undoubtedly cause me some cyber grief but I left it till after the game because I do not see Bruges fans in the same light as most on here. After the game at their ground there were a couple of incidents in which one Blues fan was kicked into hospital and another in which a father was attacked whilst with his 2 sons.  The first incident was recorded on FB on the Blues Europa travel page and read as follows:- My bro got jumped in brugges 4 broken ribs punctured lung, broken eye socket, 10 impact wounds to his head w---ers.
Then we have what happened before the game when they tried to attack probably the most non "laddish" pub that Blues fans use the Adam and Eve last week, a pub frequented by more liberal, politically correct love and peace to all men type of Blues fan. Bottles were thrown at the pub from within a police escort.
Finally something that has angered me the most, more so because no action was taken and that was the jumping up and down and monkey noises being directed at some of our black fans in the ground. Now I have never heard of any villa fans making monkey noises at our black fans yet you most of you sing songs about defacating on the villa and coming back up, winning the cup and kicking ---- out of them?  I am quite sure that if I were to make monkey noises and monkey type gesticulations at a black away fan I would now be in prison and banned for life from St Andrews.
The attacks in Bruges were carried out by cowards when the Blues fans were alone and the bottling of the Adam and the monkey noises were done when protected by the police.
As said I didn't write about the attacks in Bruges as it could have been seen as an attempt to stir things up but I think it is relevant now.
Hopefully on my trip to Braga I will meet some lovely Portuguese people and we can chew the cud over a nice glass of sagres and a bowl of fish stew before I get too drunk and start singing about defacating on B6.

APPLAUSE!

Don't mention the racism as I did in another thread or you'll be accused of lying!

Yeah, to me the Bruges fans were no different to many sets of fans I've seen. I just think that because so many Blues fans went there, the fact we won, the fact they brought a lot here and we got a good draw, and the fact that there are one or two very decent Bruges fans on this messageboard, has somehow tainted a lot of our fans view into thinking that they're somehow our best friends.

We actually have very good relations with a few teams/fans: Albion and Norwich spring to mind. Bruges are perhaps just another one like that.

But yeah, agree with you.

Obviously I wasn't there but mates of mine said the Leeds fans were far more passionate a week earler.
My main hang up was this clapping at minute 23 in memory of an idiot who was driving his car at 125 mph and who could have killed many innocent people. I can think of far better cases to pay respects, in fact I cannot think of many worse.
The Blues fans were silent for the first 23 minutes of the game waiting for the clapping which led to Bruges getting the upper hand in the first half and going 2 nil up.
Anyway it's done and dusted now so each to his own.

Tell you what mate. if you're that unhappy about this game, the atmosphere, the support, the opposing supporters then please, please don't go to Blues Millwall, or Blues Cardiff, or Blues, etc, etc. Because we will never here the last of it.

Those are the type of games I love, the Old Den on a night match, not for the faint hearted.
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Nov 8 2011, 09:11 PM
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Nov 8 2011, 05:17 PM
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Nov 8 2011, 06:31 AM
bluego
Nov 8 2011, 01:41 AM
This will undoubtedly cause me some cyber grief but I left it till after the game because I do not see Bruges fans in the same light as most on here. After the game at their ground there were a couple of incidents in which one Blues fan was kicked into hospital and another in which a father was attacked whilst with his 2 sons.  The first incident was recorded on FB on the Blues Europa travel page and read as follows:- My bro got jumped in brugges 4 broken ribs punctured lung, broken eye socket, 10 impact wounds to his head w---ers.
Then we have what happened before the game when they tried to attack probably the most non "laddish" pub that Blues fans use the Adam and Eve last week, a pub frequented by more liberal, politically correct love and peace to all men type of Blues fan. Bottles were thrown at the pub from within a police escort.
Finally something that has angered me the most, more so because no action was taken and that was the jumping up and down and monkey noises being directed at some of our black fans in the ground. Now I have never heard of any villa fans making monkey noises at our black fans yet you most of you sing songs about defacating on the villa and coming back up, winning the cup and kicking ---- out of them?  I am quite sure that if I were to make monkey noises and monkey type gesticulations at a black away fan I would now be in prison and banned for life from St Andrews.
The attacks in Bruges were carried out by cowards when the Blues fans were alone and the bottling of the Adam and the monkey noises were done when protected by the police.
As said I didn't write about the attacks in Bruges as it could have been seen as an attempt to stir things up but I think it is relevant now.
Hopefully on my trip to Braga I will meet some lovely Portuguese people and we can chew the cud over a nice glass of sagres and a bowl of fish stew before I get too drunk and start singing about defacating on B6.

APPLAUSE!

Don't mention the racism as I did in another thread or you'll be accused of lying!

Yeah, to me the Bruges fans were no different to many sets of fans I've seen. I just think that because so many Blues fans went there, the fact we won, the fact they brought a lot here and we got a good draw, and the fact that there are one or two very decent Bruges fans on this messageboard, has somehow tainted a lot of our fans view into thinking that they're somehow our best friends.

We actually have very good relations with a few teams/fans: Albion and Norwich spring to mind. Bruges are perhaps just another one like that.

But yeah, agree with you.

Obviously I wasn't there but mates of mine said the Leeds fans were far more passionate a week earler.
My main hang up was this clapping at minute 23 in memory of an idiot who was driving his car at 125 mph and who could have killed many innocent people. I can think of far better cases to pay respects, in fact I cannot think of many worse.
The Blues fans were silent for the first 23 minutes of the game waiting for the clapping which led to Bruges getting the upper hand in the first half and going 2 nil up.
Anyway it's done and dusted now so each to his own.

:applause: :applause: yeah well done bluego you're going to Brago from somewhere and are spending more cash doing so than most... you're comments from what I have read have been 'antagonistic' at best for someone who has not experienced any of the Europa games yet.

wish it, want it and you'll likely find it.

There are probably incidents from some of the 'LuLu's' that are deserved and some that are not, but your hearsay post is just sad.

Enjoy Braga, if you can.

Oh I will enjoy Braga just as I did against Beveren, Royal Liege, Wilhelm 2 Tilburg, Zaragoza, Sporting Gijon, Jonkopping, Norkopping, De Grafschap of Doetichem, Carrera and a few others I have forgotten due to my oncoming senility. All places where the locals made us welcome and we had a fantastic time and loads of memories. However this cringefest on here over clapping a bloke who was driving at 125mph at 3AM (anyone believe he wasn't paraletic) is rather pathetic. I'll bet 90% of those clapping didn't know the circumstances of how the fellow died.
Personally I'd rather clap a true sporting hero like Joe Frazier a man of enormous dignity who died in poverty...how America treats its heros eh?

Oh and my Bruges mate of 5 years Flanders reckons Brummie birds are top notch so that in itself proves all Bruges fans are not the full shilling.
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Nov 8 2011, 11:04 PM
  Personally I'd rather clap a true sporting hero like Joe Frazier a man of enormous dignity who died in poverty...how America treats its heros eh?


What has America got to do with it ?? That is a very bizarre statement to make

Many celebrities in both sports and entertainment often squander their wealth through a combination of bad investments , alcohol or drug abuse, gambling or legal battles and other issues.....Joe was no different

Joe was ripped off by rogue property and real estate develepors or simply given bad advice, a battle he spent millions on in legal disputes.....he also admitted himself he was naive with his money at the time

Which brings me to Muhammed Ali, George Foreman and Larry Holmes, three other great fighters of that era .....They are all still millionaires

Should America have spared Mike Tyson the jail time because he was an awesome fighter ?? And just forget all about the brutal sexual assault of a female he was found guilty of because he is Iron Mike ??

By the way, If Britian treated it's elders a bit more carefully and maybe with a bit more empathy, many of our old footballers who were legends in the game would not have to sell their Cup winning medals and other memoribillia just to make it through life......Same applies to our veterans of war who are forced to sell their hard earned medals out of financial necessity

But it seems your theory would be to honour someone like Paul Merson and hand him back the millions he blew on cocaine and horse racing courtesy of the taxpayer I guess because he was a gifted footballer

Some people are smart with money.....some are reckless , some just don't get the breaks .....It makes no difference what country you live in.....it's purely a part of life

Get a grip !
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Nov 8 2011, 11:04 PM
  Personally I'd rather clap a true sporting hero like Joe Frazier a man of enormous dignity who died in poverty...how America treats its heros eh?


What has America got to do with it ?? That is a very bizarre statement to make

Many celebrities in both sports and entertainment often squander their wealth through a combination of bad investments , alcohol or drug abuse, gambling or legal battles and other issues.....Joe was no different

Joe was ripped off by rogue property and real estate develepors or simply given bad advice, a battle he spent millions on in legal disputes.....he also admitted himself he was naive with his money at the time

Which brings me to Muhammed Ali, George Foreman and Larry Holmes, three other great fighters of that era .....They are all still millionaires

Should America have spared Mike Tyson the jail time because he was an awesome fighter ?? And just forget all about the brutal sexual assault of a female he was found guilty of because he is Iron Mike ??

By the way, If Britian treated it's elders a bit more carefully and maybe with a bit more empathy, many of our old footballers who were legends in the game would not have to sell their Cup winning medals and other memoribillia just to make it through life......Same applies to our veterans of war who are forced to sell their hard earned medals out of financial necessity

But it seems your theory would be to honour someone like Paul Merson and hand him back the millions he blew on cocaine and horse racing courtesy of the taxpayer I guess because he was a gifted footballer

Some people are smart with money.....some are reckless , some just don't get the breaks .....It makes no difference what country you live in.....it's purely a part of life

Get a grip !

Excellent post Parti, well said! :applause:
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I was told by the steward in my block 324 at Jan Breydel that the Belgian police feared for the game in Bruges that hools from other teams in Belgium (Antwerp) and even Holland (Feyenoord) would come over to look for fighting against Brummies in order to give Bruges fans a bad name ! And there are every week problems in e.g. Ostend with stupid, drunk people.
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