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Fahey + Spector = No Good; Elliott needed.
Topic Started: Nov 19 2011, 06:17 PM (1,500 Views)
.Jake
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Fahey made some space, got a cross in, only for Zigic to head it wide today. Great bit of play from Fahey, terrible header from Zigic. Never got why Zigic gets so much praise all the time (he has missed at least 5 easy-to-score headers this season) yet Fahey has average games, not great but not making major mistakes just some little ones and he gets moaned at constantly. I'm not one for boo'ing players or sarcastic chants but I was glad in a way that we started singing f**king useless towards him today. I have never really heard of much negativity towards him and he has been poor all through since he has come back.
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Mr. Blue
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Fahey has been getting better and we should encourage this improvement instead of potential hindering it.
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bluenoseboris
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Ive been slagging Fahey off for months - becuase he has played rubbish.
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For sure the last 2 games for him have been much better. I didnt see the Blackpool game but from the sounds of it he did OK and he was much improved against Burnley.
Well done Keith - now keep it up!
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Blacksmith
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And there is a world of difference between criticising players on this forum and slagging them off on the pitch. That is no help to us whatsoever and, if anything, is more help to the opposition.

Whilst they are wearing that Blues shirt let's get behind each and every one of them when they are on the pitch.

Let's leave it to opposition supporters to be the ones making the negative noises.
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harken
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At Blackpool yesterday the bloke in front of me gave Fahey dog's abuse for not playing the ball forward. In front of Fahey at the time there was only King, marked by 2 defenders! So he played it to a Blues player to keep possession instead of hoofing it. I know he's no world beater but much of the criticism is ridiculous.
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harken
Nov 27 2011, 12:59 PM
At Blackpool yesterday the bloke in front of me gave Fahey dog's abuse for not playing the ball forward. In front of Fahey at the time there was only King, marked by 2 defenders! So he played it to a Blues player to keep possession instead of hoofing it. I know he's no world beater but much of the criticism is ridiculous.

On the video posted by a Bluenose you can hear a guy whining 'why doesn't the **** pass it forward!' This was about a second before Fahey rolled a perfectly decent pass - forwards- for Burke.I didn't hear these sort of comment when the master of the square and back pass Barry Ferguson was boring us to death last season. Let's get off Fahey's back, eh fellas? He had a perfectly reasonable game on Tuesday and supplied a great cross yesterday which Ziggy should have buried yet he he just seem to get it in the neck all the time.

Here's a stat: BF scored zero goals and achieved zero assists in the entirety of last season. Zilch, zip, zero, diddly squat; already this season the maligned Fahey has a goal and several assists to put on his CV.
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lordnewtown
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curlyminogue
Nov 27 2011, 01:13 PM
harken
Nov 27 2011, 12:59 PM
At Blackpool yesterday the bloke in front of me gave Fahey dog's abuse for not playing the ball forward. In front of Fahey at the time there was only King, marked by 2 defenders! So he played it to a Blues player to keep possession instead of hoofing it. I know he's no world beater but much of the criticism is ridiculous.

On the video posted by a Bluenose you can hear a guy whining 'why doesn't the **** pass it forward!' This was about a second before Fahey rolled a perfectly decent pass - forwards- for Burke.I didn't hear these sort of comment when the master of the square and back pass Barry Ferguson was boring us to death last season. Let's get off Fahey's back, eh fellas? He had a perfectly reasonable game on Tuesday and supplied a great cross yesterday which Ziggy should have buried yet he he just seem to get it in the neck all the time.

Here's a stat: BF scored zero goals and achieved zero assists in the entirety of last season. Zilch, zip, zero, diddly squat; already this season the maligned Fahey has a goal and several assists to put on his CV.

I'm hoping this isn't me being referred to ha ha!

I did say something yesterday (might be on the video) about Fahey never seeing the killer ball.

Love him or hate him, he very much plays the game with his head down (think the run where he just ended up running into defenders instead of knocking it to Beausejour out left).

There were a number of times where particularly Marlon King was on the last man and making a great run that would be undetected.

But Fahey, despite being a central midfielder, never looked up and saw it, or did but just chose to play the simple ball, which yes, kept possession (possession mostly lost anyway) but also lost a key pportunity for a clear cut chance.
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curlyminogue
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So how many times did BF open up our defence with killer passes?
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willvbcfc
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Nov 27 2011, 04:56 PM
So how many times did BF open up our defence with killer passes?

Didn't particularly rate him last season either.
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lordnewtown
Nov 27 2011, 05:52 PM
curlyminogue
Nov 27 2011, 01:13 PM
harken
Nov 27 2011, 12:59 PM
At Blackpool yesterday the bloke in front of me gave Fahey dog's abuse for not playing the ball forward. In front of Fahey at the time there was only King, marked by 2 defenders! So he played it to a Blues player to keep possession instead of hoofing it. I know he's no world beater but much of the criticism is ridiculous.

On the video posted by a Bluenose you can hear a guy whining 'why doesn't the **** pass it forward!' This was about a second before Fahey rolled a perfectly decent pass - forwards- for Burke.I didn't hear these sort of comment when the master of the square and back pass Barry Ferguson was boring us to death last season. Let's get off Fahey's back, eh fellas? He had a perfectly reasonable game on Tuesday and supplied a great cross yesterday which Ziggy should have buried yet he he just seem to get it in the neck all the time.

Here's a stat: BF scored zero goals and achieved zero assists in the entirety of last season. Zilch, zip, zero, diddly squat; already this season the maligned Fahey has a goal and several assists to put on his CV.

I'm hoping this isn't me being referred to ha ha!

I did say something yesterday (might be on the video) about Fahey never seeing the killer ball.

Love him or hate him, he very much plays the game with his head down (think the run where he just ended up running into defenders instead of knocking it to Beausejour out left).

There were a number of times where particularly Marlon King was on the last man and making a great run that would be undetected.

But Fahey, despite being a central midfielder, never looked up and saw it, or did but just chose to play the simple ball, which yes, kept possession (possession mostly lost anyway) but also lost a key pportunity for a clear cut chance.

You're so right LN. There are those critics now who are so inflexible that they'll find fault with Fahey and Spector however well they play. And where I sit (block 23) many fans have reacted positively to thier performances recently.
How few games have we lost in the last 20, we're in 8th place with 2 games in hand, there is a fair chance we'll qualify for the next round of the europa cup - our central mid must be awful??
Why don't the critics write to CH and tell him he's wrong? Or perhaps they were in the running for Colin Calderwood's job? I'd love to see Fahey's critics explain how their exprerience and knowledge exceeds that of our management team, which appears to be doing rather well. Much better than anyone expected way back in July.
Unfortunateyl, even if we were where Southampton are, you'd still have people complaining.
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willvbcfc
Nov 27 2011, 05:06 PM
curlyminogue
Nov 27 2011, 04:56 PM
So how many times did BF open up our defence with killer passes?

Didn't particularly rate him last season either.

Agreed, he failed to impact the vast, vast majority of games last season. And he was one of the key reasons why we A) didn't score enough goals and B) got relegated. He was the epitome of McLeish's ineffective football. So I was very glad to see him get booed yesterday.
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lordnewtown
Nov 27 2011, 04:52 PM
curlyminogue
Nov 27 2011, 01:13 PM
harken
Nov 27 2011, 12:59 PM
At Blackpool yesterday the bloke in front of me gave Fahey dog's abuse for not playing the ball forward. In front of Fahey at the time there was only King, marked by 2 defenders! So he played it to a Blues player to keep possession instead of hoofing it. I know he's no world beater but much of the criticism is ridiculous.

On the video posted by a Bluenose you can hear a guy whining 'why doesn't the **** pass it forward!' This was about a second before Fahey rolled a perfectly decent pass - forwards- for Burke.I didn't hear these sort of comment when the master of the square and back pass Barry Ferguson was boring us to death last season. Let's get off Fahey's back, eh fellas? He had a perfectly reasonable game on Tuesday and supplied a great cross yesterday which Ziggy should have buried yet he he just seem to get it in the neck all the time.

Here's a stat: BF scored zero goals and achieved zero assists in the entirety of last season. Zilch, zip, zero, diddly squat; already this season the maligned Fahey has a goal and several assists to put on his CV.

I'm hoping this isn't me being referred to ha ha!

I did say something yesterday (might be on the video) about Fahey never seeing the killer ball.

Evidence.
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bluenoseboris
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When players play well they get all of the adulation from the fans and they can bask in the glory of hero worship and everything that goes with it. I have yet to see any player moan when receiving standing ovations and the Tilton End singing his name. Some are made legends and all have the chance to become one.

Conversley when they play poorly, or when fans perceive they are playing poorly, then they should expect some stick and there is nothing wrong at all, I suggest, with fans moaning about poor performances.

I accept the comments made that its better to moan about our players here, or indeed anywhere apart from in the ground during a match, but theres the rub. The adulation fans give the players during matches are balanced by the moans and to lose one, or the other, would take the atmosphere right out of it. The emotiveness of fans of both good and bad play and the immediate and natural reactions to an amazing goal or a glaring miss is what makes it the greatest game on earth. Lose that and we can all stay at home and watch Sky (with the volume turned off).

Id also make the point that some players seem to actually respond well to getting some stick. I mean look at Ziggy. He has been rubbished by quite a few fans during recent matches and then at Blackpool after having a nightmare miss, and getting loudly barracked, he finds something within himself and gets us the draw.......

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bluenoseboris
Nov 28 2011, 08:36 AM
When players play well they get all of the adulation from the fans and they can bask in the glory of hero worship and everything that goes with it. I have yet to see any player moan when receiving standing ovations and the Tilton End singing his name. Some are made legends and all have the chance to become one.

Conversley when they play poorly, or when fans perceive they are playing poorly, then they should expect some stick and there is nothing wrong at all, I suggest, with fans moaning about poor performances.

I accept the comments made that its better to moan about our players here, or indeed anywhere apart from in the ground during a match, but theres the rub. The adulation fans give the players during matches are balanced by the moans and to lose one, or the other, would take the atmosphere right out of it. The emotiveness of fans of both good and bad play and the immediate and natural reactions to an amazing goal or a glaring miss is what makes it the greatest game on earth. Lose that and we can all stay at home and watch Sky (with the volume turned off).

Id also make the point that some players seem to actually respond well to getting some stick. I mean look at Ziggy. He has been rubbished by quite a few fans during recent matches and then at Blackpool after having a nightmare miss, and getting loudly barracked, he finds something within himself and gets us the draw.......

I absolutely agree with you that's it every fans right to express his/her opinion both at the game and on forums such as this, Boris, but for me Fahey isn't playing badly enough to endure such abuse. I have to confess to being a tad disappointed with him but only on the grounds that I was expecting so much more from him this season where he has been given Ferguson's old role in cenre midfield. For me he seems to have inherited BF's style of play (he even runs like Fergie) and unfortunately he seems to err on the side of caution.

I wish he'd relax a little and attempt to play the sort of killer pass he has managed in the past because frankly I couldn't care less if I am the the only one on this forum who thinks so but I earnestly believe Keith Fahey is a more talented footballer than the crab. No doubt Mrs F will dispatch a hit squad from Galgow to offer some gentle advice to me on the Fahey v Fergie issue but I can't help believing what I believe.
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