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Chris Hughton; and his tactics
Topic Started: Dec 8 2011, 12:03 PM (686 Views)
grumpyoldman100
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Although I think Chris Hughton is doing a good job I have one grumble.

After nearly every match he says that the other team had more possession because of the way they play and he expected it. He said it again after the Hull match.

Surely if he knows this it's up to him to set up the team to prevent the opposition controlling possession.

Is he saying this to protect the team because we do not have the quality of midfieders who are comfortable on the ball and who can retain possession?

I'm sure he's doing the best he can with the player's he's got but we do lack a Barry Ferguson type player who can hold the ball. Hopefully Mutch will improve us in this area when he's fit.
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grumpyoldman100
Dec 8 2011, 12:03 PM
Although I think Chris Hughton is doing a good job I have one grumble.

After nearly every match he says that the other team had more possession because of the way they play and he expected it. He said it again after the Hull match.

Surely if he knows this it's up to him to set up the team to prevent the opposition controlling possession.

Is he saying this to protect the team because we do not have the quality of midfieders who are comfortable on the ball and who can retain possession?

I'm sure he's doing the best he can with the player's he's got but we do lack a Barry Ferguson type player who can hold the ball. Hopefully Mutch will improve us in this area when he's fit.

We had eight shots on taget, grumpy, which is an extremely high ratio for an away match. That said I simply can't understand why Spector seems to have nailed down a first team place because I'm a little baffled by what it is he brings to the team.
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tamworth_blue
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grumpyoldman100
Dec 8 2011, 12:03 PM
Surely if he knows this it's up to him to set up the team to prevent the opposition controlling possession.

Thats what Alex Mcleish said and did every game and look what happened there. He was more bothered about what other teams did and forgot about what his own team did
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tamworth_blue
Dec 8 2011, 12:16 PM
grumpyoldman100
Dec 8 2011, 12:03 PM
Surely if he knows this it's up to him to set up the team to prevent the opposition controlling possession.

Thats what Alex Mcleish said and did every game and look what happened there. He was more bothered about what other teams did and forgot about what his own team did

Under McLeish I doubt whether we had eight shots in a season let alone in one away match. Sure it would be nice if we could achieve promotion but I think its much more important we have a change of ownership ASAP. Yeung out!
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stevio11
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I am just starting to get fed up now of the excuses2 we deserved something from the game again". Sorry but if we dont put enough effort in and let sloppy goals in then we deserve nothing. Its time the team upped its game considering the players we have compared to most teams in this league.
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grumpyoldman100
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tamworth_blue
Dec 8 2011, 12:16 PM
grumpyoldman100
Dec 8 2011, 12:03 PM
Surely if he knows this it's up to him to set up the team to prevent the opposition controlling possession.

Thats what Alex Mcleish said and did every game and look what happened there. He was more bothered about what other teams did and forgot about what his own team did

I agree that Hughton does it his way and is very much more attack minded.

But apart from the first half of the Peterborough game I haven't seen us control possession. The opposition seem better able to do it and that means we tend to play on the breakaway or counter attack.
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BARNETTSrun
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We need a ball winner in the middle of the park

Takes us too long to get it back when we lose it
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tony123
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Completely agree with you on this one. Against Braga in the first 20 minutes we passed the ball really well and created chances. Then Braga got into the game and we lost out bottle started hit-and-run and "passes" that resulted in losing posession far too easily.
I dont understand why we panic when the opposition have some success. All this does is makes things worse.

We need to accept the fact that the opposition will get some possession at times, chances even score. Ths cannot be allowed to bully us out of playing football. We need to give get the ball on the ground and pass it. We still have to risk playing football even if it does mean losing possession.

If the player on the ball doesnt have someone to pass to then the other 10m players need their backsides kicked IMO.

Fine the team £10k everytime they play hoof ball and give it to a Birmingham charity.

Come on Blues
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archiesbluedad
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We created the better chances yet still lose again. We are becoming sloppy defensively and conceding too many soft goals. I think after half time it would have been wise to may be sacrificed a striker or tucked one of the two into a wide position for the first 20 minutes of the second half to protect our lead. We had the lead so to concede after 2 minutes of the second half is not acceptable in my opinion :angry:
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bedfordblues
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we seem to lose or draw games we are either in control of or ahead in, this is where we miss a "lee bowyer" type of player, somebody who gets in your face, i believe players like fahey are a luxury in this league, why not play gomis or ndaw for a number of games and strengthen our midfield,
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grumpyoldman100
Dec 8 2011, 12:03 PM
Although I think Chris Hughton is doing a good job I have one grumble.

After nearly every match he says that the other team had more possession because of the way they play and he expected it. He said it again after the Hull match.

Surely if he knows this it's up to him to set up the team to prevent the opposition controlling possession.

Is he saying this to protect the team because we do not have the quality of midfieders who are comfortable on the ball and who can retain possession?

I'm sure he's doing the best he can with the player's he's got but we do lack a Barry Ferguson type player who can hold the ball. Hopefully Mutch will improve us in this area when he's fit.

Grumpy I really do think our problem is the lack of goalscorers.

Despite how we play and the opposition having more possession, the way we play also means we create chances............and a huge percentage of them are not being converted.

Wood can score but we cannot expect him to do so every game. King has the potential and I am a little disappointed but there again he was at Cov for a while before he exploded. As for Zigic.......................
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bluenoseboris
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There are numerous reasons why we must be lenient when it comes to criticising CH but on the other hand there is nothing wrong in demanding the best and at long last starting to get angry and frustrated when we lose any game; no matter what the mitigating circumstances are.

I think for far too long we have suffered with Blues to the extent that many of us never expected them to win anything; we always hoped, always supported, but never ever really expected.

However times have changed! We saw Wembley, and Braga, and Maribor and Brugge and we liked it. We want more of that and if we can do that once we can and should do that again; and not in another 50 years either! I wont be here then as will many others.

So, at least for me, I accept that this season is (was always) going to be tough and so its transpiring to be that way.

But next year I expect nothing less than promotion (assuming we dont by some miracle get promoted this year) and then after that from CH or from any other BCFC manager I expect European football and Cup finals to be delivered not every year as that would be very unrealistic but certainly something every 5 years.

We have every right to expect BCFC to not go to places like Hull and get beat; this years very special circumstances make that just pallatable but not in the future.

We are Blues and we are now (we have seen) better than this!

So I dont want to hear about Carson, AML, Relegation, Tactics, no money, etc. I just want to win. CH is getting paid a lot of money to deliver that. I think that in time, and if given reasonable support by our owners, whoever they may be, he will. The clocks ticking though. The fans have seen the light and we dont want another decade or more of nothingness.

KRO to all and heres looking forward to Doncaster and Maribor at home! I expect to win both games and then we will all be feeling much better.
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clapton bluenose
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Team lacks pace all over none at the back none in midfield and none in attack.

I am disappointed ch has not addressed this when he had the opportunity to. He said he was happy with what we got so we have a right to expect better.
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norblue
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CH is the best manager I have seen down the blues for a long, long time. Give him time and I am absolutely certain he will deliver the goods.

Don`t forget he has been working with extremely limited resources and the guy had next to nothing to spend in the summer.

Keep the faith.

KRO
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Coorslite
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We just have to remember what he has to work with also. I think he is doing a great job
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thetoot
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Dec 8 2011, 05:10 PM
We just have to remember what he has to work with also. I think he is doing a great job

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clapton bluenose
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Dec 8 2011, 04:38 PM
CH is the best manager I have seen down the blues for a long, long time. Give him time and I am absolutely certain he will deliver the goods.

Don`t forget he has been working with extremely limited resources and the guy had next to nothing to spend in the summer.

Keep the faith.

KRO

I love ch but the loan market was an option especially with teams like man city that have huge playing staff and are in the position to loan us players with no cost to us.

Afterall they have players that need and would benefit from 1st team competitive football.

Whilst it maybe true he has had to work with poor players and a lack of resources I am still waiting for the likeable ch to tap into this.

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DEdblue
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Dec 8 2011, 04:32 PM
Team lacks pace all over none at the back none in midfield and none in attack.

I am disappointed ch has not addressed this when he had the opportunity to. He said he was happy with what we got so we have a right to expect better.

And it's that lack of pace that is staring to propell us to the next division down........to say we was poor last night would be an understatement, From what I saw yesterday I would say we have nothing left.
Sat is a massive game, the sooner we get to 63 (-10) points the better. :angry:
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Joeybluenose
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Can't believe people are having a pop at CH already. What better could he have done with absolutely nothing to work with?
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BARNETTSrun
Dec 8 2011, 12:51 PM
We need a ball winner in the middle of the park

Takes us too long to get it back when we lose it

this!

think he's waiting for carter come back, personally I think ndaw could do a job!
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Prawnman
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Dec 8 2011, 06:16 PM
Can't believe people are having a pop at CH already. What better could he have done with absolutely nothing to work with?

Bang on. 22 players out of the club in the summer, complete squad re-build, zero money to spend, no assistant manger until recently, fixture pile up, squad flying across Europe every few weeks and he has only been in charge what three months? We have some amazing team performances under him so far, the best I've every seen us play in terms of football, it has set a bench mark they some expect week in, week out.

Its not going to happen. As much as I would love, and I mean love for us to progress in Europe (and I said this from the off), the squad can't cope with the amount of games, in quality, strength and depth.

I still think we have a half decent chance to shoot up the league if we get knocked out next week. But both. No chance.
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my worry is he is one dimensional
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Dec 8 2011, 06:55 PM
my worry is he is one dimensional

If CH is one dimensional, I dread to think what Eck is! A plank? :LMAO:
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Hang on, you say he's doing well considering what he has to play with well he has, Zigic, plays for country, Fahey, plays for country, Wood, plays for country, Beausejour, plays for country, Burke who has played for his country, Gomis who has played for his country etc etc etc

We have a good team but for some reason they can't hold a lead and panic when faced with a period of strong play from the opposition.

Now I am not saying CH has got it wrong but the recent bad run has shown that we are lacking something and it needs sorting.
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Dec 8 2011, 07:41 PM
Hang on, you say he's doing well considering what he has to play with well he has, Zigic, plays for country, Fahey, plays for country, Wood, plays for country, Beausejour, plays for country, Burke who has played for his country, Gomis who has played for his country etc etc etc

We have a good team but for some reason they can't hold a lead and panic when faced with a period of strong play from the opposition.

Now I am not saying CH has got it wrong but the recent bad run has shown that we are lacking something and it needs sorting.

Look at the nations they play for Bear; Serbia, Ireland, New Zealand, Chile, Scotland and Senegal. The only average teams there are Serbia and Chile, the rest are complete rubbish. Our problems are blatant, the central midfield area and our finishing, if that was up to scratch nobody would be mentioning Hughton and co in a bad name.
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