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baggies fans at anfield
Topic Started: Apr 22 2012, 05:49 PM (356 Views)
maulley54
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baggies fans at the end of the game at liverpool taunting the scousers singing hodgson is too good for you.
he must have enjoyed that, dalglish has a worse record than hodgson almost, its a good job liverpool have the cup runs this season.
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Dalglish is an awful manager and he's too stuck in his own ways of old to even change now.

Also one of the most arrogant ones about despite having nothing to back it up with in his current run.
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Leave Kenny alone not only a great player but a winning manager, he has the carling cup & may add the FA cup.
I would love to see Liverpool back above Man citeh challenging Man u. Liverpool has spawned some of the greatest talents I`ve seen Gerrard Owen & Fowler to name just three.
They did this country proud in Europe and i for one would love to see tham as a real force again!

KRO
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Des
Apr 23 2012, 11:24 AM
Leave Kenny alone not only a great player but a winning manager, he has the carling cup & may add the FA cup.
I would love to see Liverpool back above Man citeh challenging Man u. Liverpool has spawned some of the greatest talents I`ve seen Gerrard Owen & Fowler to name just three.
They did this country proud in Europe and i for one would love to see tham as a real force again!

KRO

Me too.

But as much as I respect Dalglish I do find him wanting as a manager.

Wherever he's managed, like Souness and Redknapp, it's been with a chequebook; and in periods when the chequebook is withdrawn you have to "manage."

i.e Ferguson, Wenger and here at home Chris Hughton.

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I was so happy with that result yesterday, especially for Roy Hodgson.
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I'm so pleased WBA stuffed them.

I hate Liverpool, even more so after that cheating Ngog cheated Blues with his dive.

Liverpool, Blackpool or Hartlepool - they're all the same to me.
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Roy Hodgson has won as many Premier League games at Anfield in 2012 as 'the King'.
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Apr 23 2012, 10:24 PM
I'm so pleased WBA stuffed them.

Although the Baggies won, watching the highlights Liverpool should of stuffed them out of sight way before they scored the winner... but that pretty much sums up Liverpools season.

I can't stand the 'we should be in the top 4 attitude' of liverpool fans, they have as much right as the baggies to be in the top 4, no more no less, you have to earn your place in the table on the pitch... history means nothing IMO.

but... I hear that a large proportion of the Liverpool faithful applauded Roy Hodgson at the start of the match? Kind of makes me think they are not all complete idiot fans.
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Apr 23 2012, 11:24 PM
I'm so pleased WBA stuffed them.

I hate Liverpool, even more so after that cheating Ngog cheated Blues with his dive.

Liverpool, Blackpool or Hartlepool - they're all the same to me.

I started disliking Liverpool when they blagged their way into the 2005/2006 "Champions League". Also, Gerrard's arrogance in his autobiography put me off him, and as a result, added to my dislike of Liverpool football club. And an awful lot of their fans have been doing for the last twenty-odd years the very thing they used to criticise Man Utd fans of doing...
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My first eye-opener was in 1974 witnessing a scouser pull a knife on a Blues fan at Lime Street station. The next came a year after where their fans were up for it all over the place. This was the era when BBC and ITV loved the Kop, loved the Kop humour and made out they were angels.

The big one was in 1985 at Heysel Stadium when they killed 39 Italians. I believe 14 of the humorous angels were sentenced to prison for manslaughter.

The real biggy was just a mere 4 years later when they killed 96 of their own.

After both disasters they winged it was somebody else's fault.

They really are the skum of the earth. I read a fantastic line about that place, a day or so after Hillsborough ...."the unwanted wart on the side of our country"... to me that describes Liverpool beautifully.
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Apr 24 2012, 02:52 PM


The big one was in 1985 at Heysel Stadium when they killed 39 Italians. I believe 14 of the humorous angels were sentenced to prison for manslaughter.




Kenny Dalglish's attitude to Heysel turns my stomach. Basically, he says that it was well known on Merseyside that the Liverpool fans were planning on causing trouble because they took a pasting from fans of an Italian team the year before and wanted revenge. He says Liverpool football club warned the relevant authorities about this, but not enough was done to prevent it. Therefore, according to Dalglish, it was the fault of the authorities, not the Liverpool fans.....
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Apr 24 2012, 02:07 PM
lowdham bluenose
Apr 24 2012, 02:52 PM


The big one was in 1985 at Heysel Stadium when they killed 39 Italians. I believe 14 of the humorous angels were sentenced to prison for manslaughter.




Kenny Dalglish's attitude to Heysel turns my stomach. Basically, he says that it was well known on Merseyside that the Liverpool fans were planning on causing trouble because they took a pasting from fans of an Italian team the year before and wanted revenge. He says Liverpool football club warned the relevant authorities about this, but not enough was done to prevent it. Therefore, according to Dalglish, it was the fault of the authorities, not the Liverpool fans.....

As I said Bart - it's always somebody elses fault.

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Apr 24 2012, 04:24 PM
Bart P. O' Loughlin
Apr 24 2012, 02:07 PM
lowdham bluenose
Apr 24 2012, 02:52 PM


The big one was in 1985 at Heysel Stadium when they killed 39 Italians. I believe 14 of the humorous angels were sentenced to prison for manslaughter.




Kenny Dalglish's attitude to Heysel turns my stomach. Basically, he says that it was well known on Merseyside that the Liverpool fans were planning on causing trouble because they took a pasting from fans of an Italian team the year before and wanted revenge. He says Liverpool football club warned the relevant authorities about this, but not enough was done to prevent it. Therefore, according to Dalglish, it was the fault of the authorities, not the Liverpool fans.....

As I said Bart - it's always somebody elses fault.

Agreed.
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Apr 22 2012, 10:58 PM
Dalglish is an awful manager and he's too stuck in his own ways of old to even change now.

Also one of the most arrogant ones about despite having nothing to back it up with in his current run.

The most arrogant manager I've seen in football and his interviews are total BS. He doesn't give an answer, just a one word answer or a facial expression - a big WTF?
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It's great to see the Baggies doing so well, although they have been doing it quietly. :applause:
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07blues08
Apr 24 2012, 08:13 PM
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Apr 22 2012, 10:58 PM
Dalglish is an awful manager and he's too stuck in his own ways of old to even change now.

Also one of the most arrogant ones about despite having nothing to back it up with in his current run.

The most arrogant manager I've seen in football and his interviews are total BS. He doesn't give an answer, just a one word answer or a facial expression - a big WTF?

And he's the one who once told a TV reporter to talk to his (Dalglish's) baby daughter because he said the reporter would get more sense out of her than Alex Ferguson.
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Apr 24 2012, 02:52 PM
The real biggy was just a mere 4 years later when they killed 96 of their own.

After both disasters they winged it was somebody else's fault.


Lowds that is an appalling statement. You might not like scousers but 96 people, mostly youngsters, dying at a football match is a tragedy of massive proportions.

The responsibility for the deaths lies with the incompetent policing and the mistake of opening a gate to let thousands in.
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maulley54
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grumpyoldman100
Apr 25 2012, 02:03 PM
lowdham bluenose
Apr 24 2012, 02:52 PM
The real biggy was just a mere 4 years later when they killed 96 of their own.

After both disasters they winged it was somebody else's fault.


Lowds that is an appalling statement. You might not like scousers but 96 people, mostly youngsters, dying at a football match is a tragedy of massive proportions.

The responsibility for the deaths lies with the incompetent policing and the mistake of opening a gate to let thousands in.

an absolute tragedy, however there is no doubt in my mind some of the fault lies with the liverpool fans. a lot of them turned up drunk, late, without tickets with one thing in mind to force a gate. some were seen driving along the motorway side by side passing cans of beer from car to car.shopkeepers said they looted their shops and that many were drunk. brian clough said it in his book, lots of people think it but are afraid to say it.i was at celtic park that day watching rangers in a scottish cup semi final and i was crying as i listened to the radio, so might i add were many rangers fans who said it bought back terrible memories of the ibrox disaster.
i have no doubt bad policeing also played its part, but if they had not opened the gate then people would have died outside the ground. the big mistake the police made was not closing off the central tunnel, there were lots of room in the laft and right hand pens.all in all a tragedy, but i am ashamed to say did we all play our part in causing the fences to be erected in the first place.
having said all that no one deserves to die at a football match, but i do think the police made a massive mistake trying to cover up their own faults.
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maulley54
Apr 26 2012, 07:14 AM
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Apr 25 2012, 02:03 PM
lowdham bluenose
Apr 24 2012, 02:52 PM
The real biggy was just a mere 4 years later when they killed 96 of their own.

After both disasters they winged it was somebody else's fault.


Lowds that is an appalling statement. You might not like scousers but 96 people, mostly youngsters, dying at a football match is a tragedy of massive proportions.

The responsibility for the deaths lies with the incompetent policing and the mistake of opening a gate to let thousands in.

an absolute tragedy, however there is no doubt in my mind some of the fault lies with the liverpool fans. a lot of them turned up drunk, late, without tickets with one thing in mind to force a gate. some were seen driving along the motorway side by side passing cans of beer from car to car.shopkeepers said they looted their shops and that many were drunk. brian clough said it in his book, lots of people think it but are afraid to say it.i was at celtic park that day watching rangers in a scottish cup semi final and i was crying as i listened to the radio, so might i add were many rangers fans who said it bought back terrible memories of the ibrox disaster.
i have no doubt bad policeing also played its part, but if they had not opened the gate then people would have died outside the ground. the big mistake the police made was not closing off the central tunnel, there were lots of room in the laft and right hand pens.all in all a tragedy, but i am ashamed to say did we all play our part in causing the fences to be erected in the first place.
having said all that no one deserves to die at a football match, but i do think the police made a massive mistake trying to cover up their own faults.

I agree with most of that maulley, although we will never know if people would of died outside if the gates had been kept shut and we will never know... there was a lot more freedom for the crowds to retreat outside.

Lowds that way below the belt IMO.

Not the fact who you may blame, that is your opinion, but to trivalise the death of 96 football young football fans the way you have in this thread is out of order IMO.

I do agree that Liverpool fans played a part in that day, sadly I think it was more consequence of years of hooliganism around the country that lead to the disaster overall aswell as 'opening gates', 'peeved fans', 'poor policing', 'poor preparation for numbers of fans', 'poor medical facilities'... the list goes on.

A friend of mine who went to the CC cup final this year had a ticketless scouser push through the turnstyle with her once she had scanned her ticket... once inside he did a runner and vanished into the stadium!! and this is in 2012!!

so, have they learnt?

RIP the 96
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maulley54
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above all else,
R.I.P. the 96
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C'mon baggies!!! Get another 3 points! :ball:
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Apr 27 2012, 11:33 PM
C'mon baggies!!! Get another 3 points! :ball:

:applause: ditto
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tim
Apr 26 2012, 12:48 PM
maulley54
Apr 26 2012, 07:14 AM
grumpyoldman100
Apr 25 2012, 02:03 PM
lowdham bluenose
Apr 24 2012, 02:52 PM
The real biggy was just a mere 4 years later when they killed 96 of their own.

After both disasters they winged it was somebody else's fault.


Lowds that is an appalling statement. You might not like scousers but 96 people, mostly youngsters, dying at a football match is a tragedy of massive proportions.

The responsibility for the deaths lies with the incompetent policing and the mistake of opening a gate to let thousands in.

an absolute tragedy, however there is no doubt in my mind some of the fault lies with the liverpool fans. a lot of them turned up drunk, late, without tickets with one thing in mind to force a gate. some were seen driving along the motorway side by side passing cans of beer from car to car.shopkeepers said they looted their shops and that many were drunk. brian clough said it in his book, lots of people think it but are afraid to say it.i was at celtic park that day watching rangers in a scottish cup semi final and i was crying as i listened to the radio, so might i add were many rangers fans who said it bought back terrible memories of the ibrox disaster.
i have no doubt bad policeing also played its part, but if they had not opened the gate then people would have died outside the ground. the big mistake the police made was not closing off the central tunnel, there were lots of room in the laft and right hand pens.all in all a tragedy, but i am ashamed to say did we all play our part in causing the fences to be erected in the first place.
having said all that no one deserves to die at a football match, but i do think the police made a massive mistake trying to cover up their own faults.

I agree with most of that maulley, although we will never know if people would of died outside if the gates had been kept shut and we will never know... there was a lot more freedom for the crowds to retreat outside.

Lowds that way below the belt IMO.

Not the fact who you may blame, that is your opinion, but to trivalise the death of 96 football young football fans the way you have in this thread is out of order IMO.

I do agree that Liverpool fans played a part in that day, sadly I think it was more consequence of years of hooliganism around the country that lead to the disaster overall aswell as 'opening gates', 'peeved fans', 'poor policing', 'poor preparation for numbers of fans', 'poor medical facilities'... the list goes on.

A friend of mine who went to the CC cup final this year had a ticketless scouser push through the turnstyle with her once she had scanned her ticket... once inside he did a runner and vanished into the stadium!! and this is in 2012!!

so, have they learnt?

RIP the 96

They also rushed the turnstiles in Istanbul before their Champions League final.
Lowds has said what many fans feel but are too afraid to say.
There were many factors that caused this disaster, but you can't ignore the part played by Liverpool fans. I think people would be more sympathetic if it wasn't for their continual denial of doing anything wrong and their victim mentality.
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