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Olympic squad
Topic Started: Jun 28 2012, 08:44 AM (311 Views)
Bart P. Cozner
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When is the squad for the Olympic football competition due to be released?
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Kyle-KRO
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Bart P. O' Loughlin
Jun 28 2012, 08:44 AM
When is the squad for the Olympic football competition due to be released?

By 9 July, I believe.
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Bart P. Cozner
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Thanks, Kyle.
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So far, Beckham has been left out. Giggs, Bellamy and Micah Richards have taken the older spots.

Shocking decision in my opinion. A true icon and legend in English football who's international career looks to be over. Someone who has been a big ambassador for England at the Olympics and has clearly worked tirelessly to promote the Olympics, and the 2018 world cup bid for the UK.

No other name in English football is bigger than Beckham's and I'm not happy with that decision. For a tournament that doesn't mean as much as the World Cup or Euros, why is Stuart Pearce taking it so seriously? 'Selecting on form' according to the BBC. England have no chance of winning it with Argentina, Brazil, Japan etc in there, and we'll be missing the players who were in the Euros anyway, so that means no Rooney, Gerrard, Walcott, etc.

Stupid.
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Justifying the omission of Beckham based on 'form' seems a bit bizarre. He's the only player eligible who is actually playing competitive football at the moment.
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Ridiculous. I won’t be watching anymore. Beckham is an icon/hero in this country, and for Pearce to drop him, well he can get effed. Beckham would have been great for PR, got bums on seats and viewers watching.

The Olympics football is a show piece not a serious football tournament, so its a joke. Pearce trying to make a statement like McLaren did, and we all know where how that ended.

Not happy.
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Why did 'triangles' Pearce announce him in the original 35 players?

Publicity? More to remind people he was the manager??

A reason for an expenses paid treat to watch Galaxy?

Shabby treatment from Pearce.

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Never should have been in the list of 35 players if he had no plans on bringing him. However to stick up for Pearce's footballing reasons, Beckham might not have been up to playing so many games in such a short period of time. I think it was a choice between Beckham and Giggs and he went with Giggs.

I think Richards is a good choice for the defence seeing as most of the other options are either injured or were involved in the Euros. Really not sure about Bellamy, I think his spot could have been used on a better player. Will there be any NI or Scotland players in the team, because I am struggling to think of talented young players from either country. I think all 4 countries nearly have to be represented but am not sure that Pearce will do that.

I am sort of looking forward to the Olympic football, I think Team GB have a shot at a medal
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Pearce apparently phoned Becks, prior to announcing his non-inclusion publicly and said he went for Richards as the third over-age player, because he wanted more strength in his defence.

This for a guy who declined to be on standby for the Euros.

:banghead:
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The whole Beckham thing is a massive joke from the public, and shows again why we don't have a winning mentality in this country.

Giggs and Bellemy would still get into an Welsh team, and possibly even into an England team.

Beckham wouldn't even get close to an England team, and is playing the world equivilant of league two football at the moment.

We have to take a certain number of over age players, why is everyone chanting for Beckham, and not Kevin Phillips, who is still doing it at a reasonable level?

Beckham is an english legend. He will be remembered as one of our greatest players ever. But his time has gone.

The fact he's worked hard for the Olympics? Immaterial. So has Seb Coe. Shall we start him for the 800 meters?
The fact he's an English football legend. Immaterial. So was Stanley Matthews. Should we dig up his old bones and put him in the squad.

The point about sport is to win, and with Beckham in the team, we have less of a chance of winning than with Giggs, Bellamy and Richards as our overage players.

Why was he in the original 35? Who knows. Maybe Pearce was told to include him as a marketing technique. There will be others named in the initial 35 who wont make the final cut. Why isn't everyone crying about them.

If we want to win things, we need to get over this desire for sentiment and nostalgia and leave behind players when they are no longer good enough. Becks is, harsh to say, no longer good enough.

Our fans, our media our entire outlook about how we go about winning things needs to grow the hell up.
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Shocking decision.

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thehod
Jun 29 2012, 02:52 PM
We have to take a certain number of over age players, why is everyone chanting for Beckham, and not Kevin Phillips, who is still doing it at a reasonable level?

Because it's meaningless fluff and the sort of tournament that very few people would be able to recall the previous winners of without googling. As such, it would have been nice for one of the good guys to get the chance to have a swansong in his home town before he retires.
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franscar
Jun 29 2012, 03:18 PM
thehod
Jun 29 2012, 02:52 PM
We have to take a certain number of over age players, why is everyone chanting for Beckham, and not Kevin Phillips, who is still doing it at a reasonable level?

Because it's meaningless fluff and the sort of tournament that very few people would be able to recall the previous winners of without googling. As such, it would have been nice for one of the good guys to get the chance to have a swansong in his home town before he retires.

Which is perhaps the only decent arguement I've heard for his inclusion.

Still, meaningless fluff or not, if we want to promote a winning attitude in to our nations collective psyche, we need to stop looking at tournaments like these as meaningless fluff, and as an opportunity to compete, build and win.

Treat it as a joke, and thats what it will be.
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Judging by the number of tickets they've sold, I'm going to wager that most people are seeing it as a bit of a joke, to be honest.

Especially at £30 to watch Belarus v New Zealand.
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franscar
Jun 29 2012, 04:11 PM
Judging by the number of tickets they've sold, I'm going to wager that most people are seeing it as a bit of a joke, to be honest.

Especially at £30 to watch Belarus v New Zealand.

Well that certainly doesn't help matters, does it?

But overpricing tickets for the events are hardly a situation akin to the Olympics.

The whole of sport is so hopelessly out of step with how much it should go to watch it, its untrue.
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They've struggled to sell Olympic Football tickets all over the country... and were no doubt banking on a few bigger name players to be selected for various national teams.

Beckham was a huge part of the appeal of the Olympics to some... fans wouldve went to see Beckham represent his country in a once in a lifetime format for him, Team GB, in the London based Olympic games... and thats been ripped away and that means fans will stay away.

They struggled originally and rumoured to have over 1m tickets left for all games throughout the country... these wouldve sold better say Mexico involved Javier Hernandez, and the Brazil games will probably sell out once they announce their squad (which is rumoured to include some of the next generation of top world football talent in Ganso, Neymar and Leandro Damiao plus older players like Hulk and David Luiz).


And Craig Bellamy!? A guy who's struggled to play games in quick successions for years now, for Man City/Cardiff/Liverpool ? Madness.

Fairest route wouldve been 3 experience heads from England, Wales and Scotland/Northern Ireland.

Beckham. Giggs. Ferguson/Miller.

Then base all young talent around them like Ramsey, Bale, Sturridge, Zaha, McEachran etc
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thehod
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So we should be picking people based on their marketability?

Surely we should be giving the lads from One Direction a game. That's bound to pull in the punters.
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MikaelForssell
Jun 29 2012, 05:45 PM
Fairest route wouldve been 3 experience heads from England, Wales and Scotland/Northern Ireland.

Beckham. Giggs. Ferguson/Miller.

Then base all young talent around them like Ramsey, Bale, Sturridge, Zaha, McEachran etc

I agree.

It would have been a unifying touch to see experienced representatives from 3 of the 4... Beckham, Giggs, and Bazza/Fletcher or Miller/Hughes would've been my selections as well. Becks should absolutely be in the squad. **thumbup
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Its now turned out that there will be no Scottish or Northern Irish involved due to disagreements with the respective FA's

Just English and Welsh then.

Think how much all the youth couldve learnt off Beckham, Giggs and another experienced head.

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To be honest I couldn't give a monkeys if Becks plays, he's over rated, over the hill and above all a shameless publicist.

I have got tickets for the GB game at Manchester and another game at Coventry and will be taking my kids, not because I think it will be a great victory or even because they will be good games but more for the "I was there" syndrome for my kids.

KRO

Oh and by the way, most posters on here have spouted that this is a nothing tournament and just a bit of fluff, well if you really feel that way about it why all the fuss?
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The squad was announced today.
As reported over the weekend, no Scottish or Northern Irish players have been picked, however Scotland's Jordan Rhodes is on standby.


Goalkeepers: Jack Butland (Birmingham/England), Jason Steele (Middlesbrough/England)

Defenders: Ryan Bertrand (Chelsea/England), Steven Caulker (Spurs/England), Craig Dawson (West Brom/England), Micah Richards (Man City/England), Danny Rose (Spurs/England), Neil Taylor (Swansea/Wales), James Tomkins (West Ham/England)

Midfielders: Joe Allen (Swansea/Wales), Tom Cleverley (Man Utd/England), Jack Cork (Southampton/England), Ryan Giggs (Man Utd/Wales), Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal/Wales), Scott Sinclair (Swansea/England)

Forwards: Craig Bellamy (Liverpool/Wales), Marvin Sordell (Bolton/England), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea/England)
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With the players Pearce has selected I say Team GB are going to play in a 4-3-3 formation which could help to further explain the exclusion of Beckham. He probably did not think Beckham had the legs to play in the centre of the park. My team would be:

Butland

Richards - Caulker - Tomkins - Bertrand

Cleverley - Ramsey - Giggs

Sinclair - Bellamy - Sturridge

Still have players like Rose, Allen and Sordell to come off the bench to change the game.
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Dont get the Bellamy inclusion at all.

He simply cannot play 3 games in a short period of time, and that doesnt even account for any knock out games if we got that far.

Strange one.

Wouldve much rather they picked Adam Johnson as an overage player for the wing, in place of someone like Jack Cork and picked Jordan Rhodes
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franscar
Jun 29 2012, 03:18 PM
thehod
Jun 29 2012, 02:52 PM
We have to take a certain number of over age players, why is everyone chanting for Beckham, and not Kevin Phillips, who is still doing it at a reasonable level?

Because it's meaningless fluff and the sort of tournament that very few people would be able to recall the previous winners of without googling. As such, it would have been nice for one of the good guys to get the chance to have a swansong in his home town before he retires.

why dont he come back home and play in this country again then. he turned his back on this country so whats the problem.
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Jun 29 2012, 05:45 PM
fans wouldve went to see Beckham represent his country in a once in a lifetime format for him, Team GB, in the London based Olympic games... and thats been ripped away and that means fans will stay away.


First 2 GB games are sell outs, and there aren't that many left for the Uruguay game.

Fail.
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