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Jobi McAnuff; Refreshing viewpoint
Topic Started: Sep 19 2012, 07:05 PM (366 Views)
dant1875
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Garry Pendrey
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At last - a footballer who sees it somewhat 'our way'...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...bi-McAnuff.html

Well done Jobi, let's hope others follow suit (especially those who make the rules) :applause:
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jassyblue80
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Trevor Francis
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spot on
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Coorslite
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NHL, NFL and NBA all have salary caps. The NHL teams get a salary per team, it is then down to them who they sign within their salary cap. It works and it doesn't. NHL are heading for a lock-out due to TV royalties, the players want more etc. Looks like no NHL this winter.

Top players are on stupid money, we also forget these players also have huge endorsments from their boot maker, to underwaer, after shave etc, etc.

What car do you drive. Well I have a 1998 Dodge Avenger with 150,000 miles on the clock :o
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citytillidie
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Not to be skeptical or anything, but this is coming from a 30 year old footballer who has probably earned himself a very decent living from the game over the past 10/12 years
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willvbcfc
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The salary cap per club system works perfectly.

Man City's wage bill two years ago was £174m. Chelsea's was £191m. That is ridiculous. No one can compete with that.

An annual wage cap of £40m for Premier League teams would be at least sustainable and would mean a better 'spread' of top players across clubs, rather than the top clubs accumulating them all. It'd see wages drop by a half and clubs could make ticket prices and merchandise more affordable.

Also, I think FIFA should say that 20% of your wage bill each year should be committed to youth development and community projects. Clubs are not just normal businesses and should give back to the community that makes them who they are.

Together, you'd see more opportunities and better facilities for young players and in conjunction, more homegrown talent come through as clubs trim their squads to use their allotted wage bill more wisely.
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willvbcfc
Sep 19 2012, 08:09 PM
The salary cap per club system works perfectly.

Man City's wage bill two years ago was £174m. Chelsea's was £191m. That is ridiculous. No one can compete with that.

An annual wage cap of £40m for Premier League teams would be at least sustainable and would mean a better 'spread' of top players across clubs, rather than the top clubs accumulating them all. It'd see wages drop by a half and clubs could make ticket prices and merchandise more affordable.

Also, I think FIFA should say that 20% of your wage bill each year should be committed to youth development and community projects. Clubs are not just normal businesses and should give back to the community that makes them who they are.

Together, you'd see more opportunities and better facilities for young players and in conjunction, more homegrown talent come through as clubs trim their squads to use their allotted wage bill more wisely.

I quite like the idea of the FIFA ruling. I would like to see another one whereby top clubs who poach young players just to stop someone else having them should have to play said player in at least 20% of their competitive games. I.e. when arsenal signed walcott and he hardly played any football for 2 years.

One thing that sickens me is some of the great players from the 50s and 60s, not having a pot to **** in and having to sell their championship or FA cup winners medals.
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citytillidie
Sep 19 2012, 08:07 PM
Not to be skeptical or anything, but this is coming from a 30 year old footballer who has probably earned himself a very decent living from the game over the past 10/12 years

I doubt he's earnt the ridiculous amounts we see now at the likes of Watford & Wimbledon??
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willvbcfc
Sep 19 2012, 08:09 PM
The salary cap per club system works perfectly.

Man City's wage bill two years ago was £174m. Chelsea's was £191m. That is ridiculous. No one can compete with that.

An annual wage cap of £40m for Premier League teams would be at least sustainable and would mean a better 'spread' of top players across clubs, rather than the top clubs accumulating them all. It'd see wages drop by a half and clubs could make ticket prices and merchandise more affordable.

Also, I think FIFA should say that 20% of your wage bill each year should be committed to youth development and community projects. Clubs are not just normal businesses and should give back to the community that makes them who they are.

Together, you'd see more opportunities and better facilities for young players and in conjunction, more homegrown talent come through as clubs trim their squads to use their allotted wage bill more wisely.

This
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willvbcfc
Sep 19 2012, 08:09 PM
The salary cap per club system works perfectly.

Man City's wage bill two years ago was £174m. Chelsea's was £191m. That is ridiculous. No one can compete with that.

An annual wage cap of £40m for Premier League teams would be at least sustainable and would mean a better 'spread' of top players across clubs, rather than the top clubs accumulating them all. It'd see wages drop by a half and clubs could make ticket prices and merchandise more affordable.

Also, I think FIFA should say that 20% of your wage bill each year should be committed to youth development and community projects. Clubs are not just normal businesses and should give back to the community that makes them who they are.

Together, you'd see more opportunities and better facilities for young players and in conjunction, more homegrown talent come through as clubs trim their squads to use their allotted wage bill more wisely.

Spot on
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mccp
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willvbcfc
Sep 19 2012, 09:09 PM
The salary cap per club system works perfectly.

Man City's wage bill two years ago was £174m. Chelsea's was £191m. That is ridiculous. No one can compete with that.

An annual wage cap of £40m for Premier League teams would be at least sustainable and would mean a better 'spread' of top players across clubs, rather than the top clubs accumulating them all. It'd see wages drop by a half and clubs could make ticket prices and merchandise more affordable.

Also, I think FIFA should say that 20% of your wage bill each year should be committed to youth development and community projects. Clubs are not just normal businesses and should give back to the community that makes them who they are.

Together, you'd see more opportunities and better facilities for young players and in conjunction, more homegrown talent come through as clubs trim their squads to use their allotted wage bill more wisely.

**thumbup

And beyond that Will, there does need some International agreement, and I think that it might have been missed. Platini has long been a critic of the Premier League benefactors, people with bottomless wallets, but he has been outflanked and will undoubtedly be out-voted in future.imo.

New owner clubs like Paris St-Germain,Zenit St Petersburg etc now come into the equation alongside the Arsenals and Man Citys and Chelseas.
With 'phoney' patronage' (sponsors) to cover up their income-to-wages audit, these clubs can destroy Platini's seeking of a more level playing field.

A possible way forward is to split the income. A greater proportion must go to attendance prices.

At the moment when clubs are going to be audited, the balance is about wages and infrastructure. Fine, Chelsea and Man Utd could just buy up every 13 year old with promise and buy a house and find a job for the kid's parents (£1million well spent) and that goes on " development".

How about a proportion of every club's income going on subsidising ticket prices.

On another forum two years ago, I read a pretty good analysis of Blues' income.

If we hadn't spent so much money on Martins, Derbyshire, Hleb, Bentley,Ziggie's and their agent's, wages, bluenoses could have had their Seasons and match prices reduced to £10 a game! We might have still won the Carling if everyone else was in the same boat !

Not just us, but 90% of the Premier could have done that.




If clubs had to equate wages with ticket subsidies, the bigger or posher clubs would be down to the level of Everton, Us, Wolves etc


I hope I've explained that clearly?

At the moment there DOES EXIST a "community" factor Will, there does exist a need for a club to be involved financialy within their community.
And they all do.
Most clubs do - Blues did from the Khumar regime onwards, we were one of the first, if not the first, to start 'after-school' activities at St Andrews for local kids.
That included help with schoolwork and playing on the St Andrews pitch.

Community involvement to bigger clubs now, just means selling off cheap tickets around the Unis and give-aways at schools, which are subsidised by the club.
e.g. Villa and Man City.
The club pays the going price and takes the loss so that Season Ticket holders are not disabused.There are many ways around 'community involvement'

And Villa and Man City are way down that road, Will.

Seen the loopholes, exploited them got the T-Shirt.



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djmmusic
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Suppose you're a top Brazillian footballer being pursued by an English and a Spanish club. The english club really wants you and offers £70k a week - lets assume this is the maximum allowed under Salary Cap rules. The spanish club, free from wage caps, offers £120k. La Liga here I come.


The only way you can realistically cap wages without damaging the Premier League is by doing it at FIFA level - and that is a whole can of worms in itself.



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djmmusic
Sep 20 2012, 12:19 AM
Suppose you're a top Brazillian footballer being pursued by an English and a Spanish club. The english club really wants you and offers £70k a week - lets assume this is the maximum allowed under Salary Cap rules.  The spanish club, free from wage caps, offers £120k. La Liga here I come.


The only way you can realistically cap wages without damaging the Premier League is by doing it at FIFA level - and that is a whole can of worms in itself.


WRONG


The Platini 'Salary Cap' proposal, is throughout UEFA.

Not FIFA

It AFFECTS Incoming players...from South America or Africa.
It covers all Leagues.

I think I can see the point you are making mate.... **thumbup

This ruling is being rolled out, across Europe though... for it to bite outside of Europe depends on us....WE.... WE get 85% of Player incomes/ agent fees Worldwide.

FIFA does not have the control of transfers yet....and until FIFA is under the auspices of a United Nations type body, we will see the trough being filled with people who can't be 'bribed again'
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The only way you can realistically cap wages without damaging the Premier League is by doing it at FIFA level - and that is a whole can of worms in itself.


:D OK :D
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Des
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utter nonsense!
Clubs should be allowed topay players anything they want, And if a cap was brought in along the lines of a straight 40 mill as someone has suggested the big clubs would take it to court and have it thrown out in an instant.
Worse still in Rugby League clubs cheat and still pay players over the odds or in Rugby union where wales tried to impose it, all the best players went straight to France por England.
Unworkable & not needed, required only by the envious.

KRO
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Its not just the top 2 divisions of our leagues where big money is floating about,
Just last week I had a quick peek at the contracts for 2 very ordinary players in one of the lower leagues clubs,You would be shocked to see what these players are on,well it shocked me anyway,
Its no wonder some clubs are in dire trouble.
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Des
Sep 20 2012, 10:22 AM
utter nonsense!
Clubs should be allowed topay players anything they want, And if a cap was brought in along the lines of a straight 40 mill as someone has suggested the big clubs would take it to court and have it thrown out in an instant.
Worse still in Rugby League clubs cheat and still pay players over the odds or in Rugby union where wales tried to impose it, all the best players went straight to France por England.
Unworkable & not needed, required only by the envious.

KRO

Cant agree with that Des. You only have to look around in the less well off clubs and see how this system is strangling all the other clubs.
Its created a massive two tier void and Sky have so much to answer for this. There has to be a ceiling on what people can afford to pay before the club has to shut its doors forever.
The removal of credit control in the banking sector allowed people to borrow more than they could afford, look at the mess we're in now.

Apart from that, bringing in expensive (and sometimes not that good) foriegn players stops our own youth getting a chance. Look at the England set up. **thumbup

Envy is usually used by people who have pulled up the drawbridge mate, your not one of those, shurely.
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