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TERRY "OFFSKI"; NO MORE ENGLAND
Topic Started: Sep 23 2012, 07:58 PM (318 Views)
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JT - :drink:
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Great news for all decent people who like me,we're struggling to support or even watch England with that vile scumbag in the set up. :lager:
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It is great news, it gives someone else a chance now.
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Finally, he's a scumbag
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BombasticBlueNose
Sep 23 2012, 04:21 PM
Great news for all decent people who like me,we're struggling to support or even watch England with that vile scumbag in the set up. :lager:

Found innocent but I guess you know better. :blink:
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:banghead: oh s**t.

I thought this was referring to Terry McDermott. One down, two to go I was thinking.

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Sep 23 2012, 10:58 PM
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Sep 23 2012, 04:21 PM
Great news for all decent people who like me,we're struggling to support or even watch England with that vile scumbag in the set up.  :lager:

Found innocent but I guess you know better. :blink:

Found innocent- Yeh so was OJ Simpson!!!
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Sep 23 2012, 10:58 PM
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Sep 23 2012, 04:21 PM
Great news for all decent people who like me,we're struggling to support or even watch England with that vile scumbag in the set up.  :lager:

Found innocent but I guess you know better. :blink:

Firstly I didn't directly refer to his racism charge . I'm talking the whole package with him, from him personally and the rest of his family. A complete shower of xxxxx. But re the racism charge. The verdict was basically saying 'not proven'. Myself and lots of others have seen you tube clips showing him mouthing the words. He can't excuse that, admits them, and comes out with his ludicrous explanation. 'was telling him I didn't say that'!!!! As I said a total scumbag.
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JT **thumbup

Never saw him give less than 100% while playing for England. Will be missed but I’m a fan of leaving the ‘golden generation’ behind now. With the exception of Ashley Cole that is.

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Does anyone else think that JT looks a bit like the pi symbol?? The letters I mean, not the man.
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he may be a scumbag but england will be to light weight at the back now
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He jumped ship before he was pushed, should have gone before the euro's with just a touch of dignity, some hope..
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Meh, he was past his best (which was never world class to begin with) two or three years ago, and has been a liability in the England set up ever since.

Maybe I should withdraw myself from the England team, that has about as much relevance as John Terry does.
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That clip of the xxxx diving head first always makes me cringe. Hence why it's never shown on tv. It's just complete, look at me, and what a man I am! If he'd wanted to do a block then it would have been easier to have moved across or if he thought more urgency then surely feet first!!? As said a lo wife BS man who shames the nation as a human being, never mind being PICKED to represent our country! Chelsea are hated cos of him, a disgrace of a man, good riddance.
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On a personal note I loath the bloke but this is a pretty good and balanced article.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/f...le-8167432.html

For a warrior on the pitch, it's odd that John Terry never understood the real battle

John Terry's Football Association trial is, in the most important sense, not about him. It is about an organisation at the forefront of stamping out racism, maintaining standards within the national game and accepting a wider social responsibility to set an example.

It is for the good of the game and not about an individual. Terry’s problem is he never recognised the difference.

For such a battle-hardened man, it is odd he never understood the fight. Imagine if the FA ignored the case, as Terry desired. There would be an outcry as football appeared to turn its back on an important issue. Luis Suarez and Liverpool would no doubt have been baffled, following the precedent set by his eight-match suspension.

The burden of proof in a criminal court is “beyond reasonable doubt”, whereas the Independent panel sitting today must decide on the “balance of probabilities” whether Terry broke rules E3 (1) and E3 (2) by using abusive language contrary to FA regulations and if this included a racial aspect.

Upon acquitting Terry at Westminster Magistrates’ Court, Judge Howard Riddle added that “under the cold light of forensic examination”, Terry’s explanation that he was merely repeating words he thought he had heard was “unlikely”.

He admitted he said “****ing black ****” to Anton Ferdinand during that infamous October match between Queens Park Rangers and Chelsea. That admission helped his defence in a criminal court but leaves him compromised in front of an FA panel because they just have to prove he said it.

Having already admitted it, it is surely inevitable he will be charged, probably receiving a four-game ban because Suarez was punished for eight games for using a racially aggravated insult on more than one occasion, a charge not levelled against Terry.

Knowing he is likely to be banned was behind his decision last night to retire from international football. His position is no more untenable than it was when the FA charged him on July 28 or during the criminal court case. The only difference is that, coming as it did just hours before the hearing began, he knew the writing was on the wall. Out of 473 cases heard by an FA independent commission in 2011, only two ended without punishment.

It is an ignominious end to a player who served his country with great distinction for the majority of his 78 caps. Always willing to play through the pain barrier, Terry never shirked a friendly or easy international fixture, saving himself for his club. Fabio Capello recognised Terry’s qualities and resigned when he was no longer allowed to name him captain. Roy Hodgson took considerable flak for selecting Terry for Euro 2012.

But with England, and especially when you are captain, the responsibility does not end there (indeed, Chelsea will come under pressure to act if and when a guilty verdict is reached). Football people believe performances absolves all. Terry is a football person, so, too, Capello and Hodgson, both of whom may feel the pressure of the England job is incompatible with the long-term goal of providing a social and moral benchmark.

To claim the FA made his position “untenable” is at best an expression of frustration and at worst a complete ignorance of how much those within the corridors of power tried to help him. Through advertising commercial services when England captain via email, hiring out his Wembley box on the black market, allegedly having an affair with an England team-mate’s girlfriend and then a criminal investigation into racial abuse, Terry was never completely ostracised.

Terry’s final England outing against Moldova ended with Hodgson branding him a “gladiator”. He was just that on the pitch, even as age diminished him, but there is more to being a high-profile footballer. He never got that.
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It really annoys me when people use the criminal case as an example of his innocence. The judge made it plainly clear that it couldn't be proven beyond reasonable doubt the words used by Terry were directed at Ferdinand and because of that he could not be found guilty.

The fact it couldn't be proved does not mean he didn't do it.

Personally I feel the timing is typical of JT trying to put the fa in a position when he should know they have no other option. As mentioned in the Standard article it would not be fair on Liverpool and Suarez if they chose to ignore it.
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Sep 24 2012, 08:41 PM
That clip of the xxxx diving head first always makes me cringe. Hence why it's never shown on tv. It's just complete, look at me, and what a man I am! If he'd wanted to do a block then it would have been easier to have moved across or if he thought more urgency then surely  feet first!!? As said a lo wife BS man who shames the nation as a human being, never mind being PICKED to represent our country! Chelsea are hated cos of him, a disgrace of a man, good riddance.

The bloke throws his head in the way of a shot to try and prevent a goal for your nation and you call him an attention seeker :LOL:

If you actually watched the game you would know he was already on the floor facing that way hence why he went with his head and not his feet.

You got issues boy.

Found innocent in a court of law and people can't accept that because they feel they should take the moral high ground :LOL:

One of the greatest players of the last decade no doubt about it. Had an affair like loads of footballers (and people) do and he is hated for it :LOL:

He was England captain should be able to **** who he wants

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Sep 25 2012, 09:14 AM
Found innocent in a court of law and people can't accept that because they feel they should take the moral high ground :LOL:

He was found innocent of any CRIMINAL charges, and rightly so, because being a racist scumbag shouldn't be against the law, even though, for some daft reason, it is.

It couldn't be proved that he directed his words specifically at Ferdinaand, and thus he was found not guilty.

That doesn't mean that he didn't say those words (he did) and isn't a rather sad example of a man and human being which little moral fiber.

Plus, despite some people's desire to make him out to be the greatest defender of his generation, he wasn't. He wasn't even close. He was slow and his positional sense left a lot to be desired, but, you know, he fought, because that's the standard by which we judge defenders, apparently.

He's another of Englands players hyped far beyond their actual abilities, and he should've gone following the 2010 World Cup.
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Why was my post taken removed from this thread?
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Sep 25 2012, 11:45 AM
Why was my post taken removed from this thread?

Not sure did it have anything to do with kidnapping Liam Neeson’s screen family?

Is so then the admins have a particular set of skills..................
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Sep 25 2012, 12:45 PM
Why was my post taken removed from this thread?

You probably did a liable
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Sep 25 2012, 11:36 AM
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Sep 25 2012, 09:14 AM
Found innocent in a court of law and people can't accept that because they feel they should take the moral high ground :LOL:

He was found innocent of any CRIMINAL charges, and rightly so, because being a racist scumbag shouldn't be against the law, even though, for some daft reason, it is.

It couldn't be proved that he directed his words specifically at Ferdinaand, and thus he was found not guilty.

That doesn't mean that he didn't say those words (he did) and isn't a rather sad example of a man and human being which little moral fiber.

Plus, despite some people's desire to make him out to be the greatest defender of his generation, he wasn't. He wasn't even close. He was slow and his positional sense left a lot to be desired, but, you know, he fought, because that's the standard by which we judge defenders, apparently.

He's another of Englands players hyped far beyond their actual abilities, and he should've gone following the 2010 World Cup.

Well said! Got shown up numerous times on the international stage. Give me Rio, King or Woodgate just to name a few over Terry anyday.
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Sep 25 2012, 04:07 PM
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Sep 25 2012, 11:36 AM
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Sep 25 2012, 09:14 AM
Found innocent in a court of law and people can't accept that because they feel they should take the moral high ground :LOL:

He was found innocent of any CRIMINAL charges, and rightly so, because being a racist scumbag shouldn't be against the law, even though, for some daft reason, it is.

It couldn't be proved that he directed his words specifically at Ferdinaand, and thus he was found not guilty.

That doesn't mean that he didn't say those words (he did) and isn't a rather sad example of a man and human being which little moral fiber.

Plus, despite some people's desire to make him out to be the greatest defender of his generation, he wasn't. He wasn't even close. He was slow and his positional sense left a lot to be desired, but, you know, he fought, because that's the standard by which we judge defenders, apparently.

He's another of Englands players hyped far beyond their actual abilities, and he should've gone following the 2010 World Cup.

Well said! Got shown up numerous times on the international stage. Give me Rio, King or Woodgate just to name a few over Terry anyday.

King and Woodgate :LOL:

I'm calling wind up here :fishing:

If you're serious however :unsure: :blink:
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Sep 25 2012, 03:18 PM
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Sep 25 2012, 04:07 PM
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Sep 25 2012, 11:36 AM
SimonBCFC
Sep 25 2012, 09:14 AM
Found innocent in a court of law and people can't accept that because they feel they should take the moral high ground :LOL:

He was found innocent of any CRIMINAL charges, and rightly so, because being a racist scumbag shouldn't be against the law, even though, for some daft reason, it is.

It couldn't be proved that he directed his words specifically at Ferdinaand, and thus he was found not guilty.

That doesn't mean that he didn't say those words (he did) and isn't a rather sad example of a man and human being which little moral fiber.

Plus, despite some people's desire to make him out to be the greatest defender of his generation, he wasn't. He wasn't even close. He was slow and his positional sense left a lot to be desired, but, you know, he fought, because that's the standard by which we judge defenders, apparently.

He's another of Englands players hyped far beyond their actual abilities, and he should've gone following the 2010 World Cup.

Well said! Got shown up numerous times on the international stage. Give me Rio, King or Woodgate just to name a few over Terry anyday.

King and Woodgate :LOL:

I'm calling wind up here :fishing:

If you're serious however :unsure: :blink:

Perfectly serious mate, if it wasnt for injury's they'd be considered as two of the best around.
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Simon boy. You call wind up! Having read that rubbish you wrote about the xxxx, you are obviously having a laff.
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