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Harry Sacked
Topic Started: Sep 16 2017, 05:43 PM (5,445 Views)
PartisanBCFC
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Sep 16 2017, 06:23 PM
I think 4 games to early, if over the next 4 we continued in this vein then ok but they have spent money and want instant results and that was never going to happen.
They reacted too slow over Zola and far too quick over Redknap.
No idea where it leaves us now, all I will say is that he has left far better players than he inherited.
Absolutely this **thumbup

Redknapp's new imports needed at least 4 more games to bed in and gel

Knee jerk reaction by "ownership" I have absolutely no faith in at all

Good Luck to Lee Carsley though, if he can conjure up an instant turnaround in form and results, he might get the job full time

Only at the Blues

Looks like Brucey saved his own bacon with a 3-0 away victory last night....Had Barnsley beaten them or it had been another 0-0 draw , I seriously believe he'd have been shown the door as well ......cannot ever remember the last time a Blues and Vile manager were sacked within days or even weeks of each other .....it's probably happened at some point though......In 1970 Tommy Docherty was fired at Villa in January and Stan Cullis left Blues in March the same year .....Always thought Cullis was sacked but some links say he resigned and retired and the game


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As someone else had alluded to earlier though , can't help wonder what all his new boys including the likes of Jota , Vassell, Stockdale and Roberts will be thinking now....although bizarrely Harry had dropped Roberts recently

Che Adams had just signed a new 5 year deal as well , he must have had some faith in 'Arry to make a long term commitment like that

Hope they remain professional and give their very all for Carsley or any new bloke though

Majority of footballers at least do accept the manager may change on a regular basis and get on with their own jobs....there are a lot of sulkers in the game these days


KRO

Edited by PartisanBCFC, Sep 17 2017, 03:38 AM.
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This is the club statement


"The club has tonight parted company with manager Harry Redknapp.
"Unfortunately due to the poor start to the campaign which sees the club second from bottom of the Championship, we are left with no choice but to terminate the contract of the manager with immediate effect.

"We thank him for all his efforts and wish him good luck for the future.

"Lee Carsley, Blues Head Professional Development Coach, will step in as Caretaker Manager"


Bog standard quote and shows a distinct lack of class .....and originality too IMO


KRO
Edited by PartisanBCFC, Sep 17 2017, 03:48 AM.
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Points to earlier posts.

This is a new board, to the one that appointed Zola and sacked GR.
That CEO has long been gone.

This current board sacked GZ appointed Harry and honoured his "no pay if fail" arrangement after keeping us up. His reputation, status and achievement probably led to the one-year contract.

But only ONE-YEAR
... not a rolling contract...
... we should've picked up hints there
... you can write-in clauses on a fixed contract, that are tuned to position in the League like ... that you can't write-in on a rolling-contract :ph43r:

Gary R did very well I reckon,financially, by delaying and delaying signing his THIRD upgraded contract
...it may have been a 'fixed' contract with Riders and Clauses. Who knows, but his agent touted him everywhere and fell out with us for not granting him an interview with QPR :banghead:

Those riders and clauses could well be contained in a Fixed Period contract.... I Presume they were in Harry's fixed contract of ONE Year. :whistle:

Like Mourhino, O'Neil to Ranieri and Wenger.... (never at Training except for photo-ops)....
Harry was a a "Suit Manager". Who delegated training, tactics and assembly and in time could have used his personna, gravitas and rep to bully or influence a dressing room...in time...

Didn't have time for that thanks. :D

Harry rode in on his REP like.
After insulting our players after Burton...PUBLICLY...I went off him. :o

It may have been a device, but it got him to open the cash-drawer of the owners. :D
And he actually succeded in getting some decent players, second-time-around. **thumbup

Now..the owners would be more acute, stands to reason like

But gelling them, organising them .... well, that was Bond mainly, because Harry only turned up at Wast it appears, when TV or camera ops were present.
Otherwise he would stay down South and avoid a 5.15 AM drive, which he claimed sarcastically that he enjoyed.
He'd do Telepephone 'Phone-Ins' from his home, pontificate and disperse "Harry-Knowledge" with some small spin-offs for Blues.

That was Tatt's job, bet he loved the days off :angel:


He's never heard of Blues' accommodation in 5 Star Hotels.... it seems.... stayed as much as he could down Sandbanks.

I'm glad he is gone. **thumbup

I wish him well, and as he said, he didn't need the money at Blues.... cos he's rich enough

---OK---

more reason to believe this new board didn't pay a fortune for this result.


I think Lee C will be a very short-lived caretaker. :angel:

An impossible hyper-act to follow, unless like he reconvenes those players Harry insulted publicly.

That might change things quickly
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Summarise....

- Glad the new Board had courage

- Hope it was written-in and don't cost us too much

- Fairly Happy that the "HARRY-SHOW" has ended

- Good Players brought In - Thanks Harry

- this New Board may actually be Ahead of the Curve

**thumbup



Edited by elvis ok, Sep 17 2017, 05:15 AM.
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Sep 16 2017, 05:50 PM
we are unbelievable.

no other championship club has this sort of drama.

who do we get now??!
Frank deBoer ? :rolleyes:
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Sep 17 2017, 03:38 AM
As someone else had alluded to earlier though , can't help wonder what all his new boys including the likes of Jota , Vassell, Stockdale and Roberts will be thinking now....although bizarrely Harry had dropped Roberts recently

Che Adams had just signed a new 5 year deal as well , he must have had some faith in 'Arry to make a long term commitment like that

Hope they remain professional and give their very all for Carsley or any new bloke though

Majority of footballers at least do accept the manager may change on a regular basis and get on with their own jobs....there are a lot of sulkers in the game these days


KRO

I think they will jump ship at the earliest opportunity now the clubs turned into a circus. 4th manager in 12 months. Abysmal. Shame about Bruce not getting sacked would love him back.
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Sep 17 2017, 08:36 AM
Frank deBoer ? :rolleyes:
His name alone is a put off

Hey ! What's Alex McLeish doing these days ?? ......heard he still lives in Knowle and you can get a train from there to Bordesley I think ....match days only perhaps

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AM......Blues legend **thumbup
Edited by PartisanBCFC, Sep 17 2017, 09:15 AM.
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I am fed up with the 'off with his head' attitude with our fans. Some managers needed time and Harry was one of them.
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Do not know what to think about this ?
Should Harry been given a bit more time to gel this team?
Is it right to give the new manager full time to make this team tick?
The objective this season is to stay in the Championship
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Think I'm somewhere in the middle on this- should have been given more time yes. Something though seemed very wrong. We should have gained a few more points - the results were Zola like.
The rumours of Harry not attending the training, all the injuries - something other than players needing time to gel was not right
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Blues' worst start in a couple of decades and Redknapp's worst ever run as manager. The only thing that's surprising is the level of surprise.

I know he and Cotterill kept us up but that's the power of Redknapp: when your only option is motivation he's a good candidate. When he has to take some responsibility it's a different story, some of his comments this season have been toxic.

The one thing Redknapp is consistently great at is managing his own reputation. Maybe he'd have turned it around but the evidence so far is that he was all mouth and no trousers, and many of us fell for it. Anyone else and there's no chance we'd have bought the results he was selling us.

The teams at Burton and Reading were basically Rowett's with a few supposed improvements, decent players who had largely had a pre-season together. Redknapp has to take responsibility for more than just September.

Onwards and upwards I say. Let's give Carsley and whoever else comes in our support.
Edited by Amuser, Sep 17 2017, 12:35 PM.
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Sep 17 2017, 09:52 AM
I am fed up with the 'off with his head' attitude with our fans. Some managers needed time and Harry was one of them.
Lol how much time do you give? 8 games in, it gets better away at Norwich and Leeds despite losing, then all comes crashing down back at home against Preston. Do you then go back and start that whole process again and waste another 4-5 games for us to pick up again? Clearly there was something wrong, this team couldn't make progress under HR, so how much 'time' do you actually give? 6 losses in a row, no progress being made, and people say he didn't have enough time lol. He had enough time and didn't show anything for it - no hint of progress.
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Sep 17 2017, 09:08 AM
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Sep 17 2017, 03:38 AM
As someone else had alluded to earlier though , can't help wonder what all his new boys including the likes of Jota , Vassell, Stockdale and Roberts will be thinking now....although bizarrely Harry had dropped Roberts recently

Che Adams had just signed a new 5 year deal as well , he must have had some faith in 'Arry to make a long term commitment like that

Hope they remain professional and give their very all for Carsley or any new bloke though

Majority of footballers at least do accept the manager may change on a regular basis and get on with their own jobs....there are a lot of sulkers in the game these days


KRO

I think they will jump ship at the earliest opportunity now the clubs turned into a circus. 4th manager in 12 months. Abysmal. Shame about Bruce not getting sacked would love him back.
But you wanted Redknapp gone? no?
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We've sacked Redknapp, Harry Redknapp.

I just don't think you understand.

He signed a lot of dross.

And now he's not the boss.

We sacked Harry Redknapp.
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Think we signed some good players.

While we mostly appreciated his address after Burton, the players clearly didn't. He learned the same lesson that Mourhino did after mistreating Caneiro, the players determine the success of a club and you need to motivate them.

You can say he barely had time to play the new recruits, and that's partially true. But it's also true he signed players before a ball was kicked to shore up the defence, which turned out to be just as bad.

You failed Harry... still love you though!
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Yeah I agree we've signed some decent players... it just fit with the song!
Edited by willvbcfc, Sep 17 2017, 03:48 PM.
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Sep 17 2017, 03:11 PM
We've sacked Redknapp, Harry Redknapp.

I just don't think you understand.

He signed a lot of dross.

And now he's not the boss.

We sacked Harry Redknapp.
Very good!
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Sep 17 2017, 02:00 PM
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Sep 17 2017, 03:38 AM
As someone else had alluded to earlier though , can't help wonder what all his new boys including the likes of Jota , Vassell, Stockdale and Roberts will be thinking now....although bizarrely Harry had dropped Roberts recently

Che Adams had just signed a new 5 year deal as well , he must have had some faith in 'Arry to make a long term commitment like that

Hope they remain professional and give their very all for Carsley or any new bloke though

Majority of footballers at least do accept the manager may change on a regular basis and get on with their own jobs....there are a lot of sulkers in the game these days


KRO

I think they will jump ship at the earliest opportunity now the clubs turned into a circus. 4th manager in 12 months. Abysmal. Shame about Bruce not getting sacked would love him back.
But you wanted Redknapp gone? no?
Yes but what does that have to do with the players wanting to stay or not?
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Sep 17 2017, 09:08 AM

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But you wanted Redknapp gone? no?
Yes but what does that have to do with the players wanting to stay or not?
But you said the clubs become a circus due to sacking Redknapp, you wanted him to be sacked but are now worried about the players leaving because he was sacked?
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Yes but what does that have to do with the players wanting to stay or not?
But you said the clubs become a circus due to sacking Redknapp, you wanted him to be sacked but are now worried about the players leaving because he was sacked?
It's a circus because redknapp is another failed appointment just like zola thought that was quite easy to understand?
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Reports Redknapp said it's been a pleasure "working with half of you" before he was sacked. What a absolute person. No wonder we were not getting results when you have half the squad being ruined by him.

Good riddance
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Sep 18 2017, 05:52 AM
]It's a circus because redknapp is another failed appointment just like zola thought that was quite easy to understand?
I would not go as so far to refer to Harry as a failure

He kept us in the Championship after being appointed with only three matches left last season

I have been impressed with many of the players he has signed since the summer and I believe many of them will come good , with or without Harrys' guidance

OK, he has failed in getting them to produce the right results this campaign but still think this decision was a solid " knee jerk" reaction

But I do accept it's a results business and these things happen up and down the country....Premier League and the other three lower Leagues too

Had Zola stayed we most certainly would have been in League One this season......Zola was the epitome of the word "failure"

KRO

Edited by PartisanBCFC, Sep 18 2017, 07:08 AM.
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Brings in 14 new players gets 2 weeks to gel them and fails, why?

There was evidence of far better footballing than we have seen for many a year.

Norwich was the start with players playing together for the first time, there were real signs of quality on the pitch.

The Leeds game we were the better team against a high flying Leeds team.

Saturday first half looked really good some impressive football.

The second half what a disaster. what was said in that dressing room to change a team so much in terms of attitude and work rate.

Maybe that was the point when it all fell apart for whatever reason. Something that was not recoverable and a parting of the ways was the only option left to the board.

It was not an ideal situation Harry being so far away and I did not trust Bond one little bit.

So now we move on to pastures new and reap whatever it is life has lined up for us. **thumbup
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I was shocked to hear this via a text from a mate, I misread the text initially as I thought he had jumped so initially was not surprised. I then re-read the text and I was and still gobsmacked. I never agreed with his appointment in the first place for numerous reason I have stated on here, but I cannot agree with his sacking. At some point owners of football clubs have got to come to their senses and stop this continual wielding of the axe everytime managers have a bad run. He has just acquired 14 players which I am guessing somewhere these we sanctioned by the owners, at least afford him the time to turn us around. There will be those that understandably say that he has been given the time and he was washed up and a dinosaur, but this is yet another knee jerk reaction by yet another group of owners who havent a clue. We are left with 14 players who were bought in by HR, what is the next manager going to do, blame the previous manager and then bring in his own players at the next window? - yet more uncertainty, instability, short termism etc.. only at the Blues could we go from playoff contenders to relegation fodder in a season and a half.

KRO
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I think we have been relegation fodder for a long time it has only been through the excellent manager-ship of the likes of GR and Harry and the never say die attitude of a group of players nobody would have that we are still in the championship.

We now have some quality in the squad we just need a quality manager who is prepared to eat live and breath BCFC like we all do and get us promoted.

Remember Reading bottom of the table at Christmas and got promoted. It is possible.
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