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Cotterillís 17 Games
Topic Started: Jan 14 2018, 08:53 AM (484 Views)
clapton bluenose
Alex Govan
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Heís won 4 games from 17 drew 3 and lost 10. Weíve only scored 9 times during that time.

I feel sorry for the fella but it just ainít good enough.
Edited by clapton bluenose, Jan 14 2018, 08:55 AM.
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david_speedie
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Itís awful. If we stick weíre down. If we gamble, we may get someone in who gets a bit of new manager bounce, similar to when we bought in Rowett, and have half a chance
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BCFC_01
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I think the appointment of cotterill was a cheaper alternative to what was available at the time. I understand a lot of people thought he was integral to us staying up last season, but the results haven't really changed since he's been in charge. He seems a manager that is cautious and tends to leave substitutions to late in the game when the game is already over. I feel a new manager is needed but feel it should have been made earlier rather than leaving it till mid January.
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bluenosealan
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Whatever we do its probably too late.
The squad of players is basically useless, a product of a wasted year of incompetent ownership and management.
Thank you Chinese fools.
Thank you Gorgon.
Thank you Cockney Spiv.
Thank you Chester.
Thank you Pavlakis.
Thank you Dung.
Thanks you Vetre.
Thank you Dein.
And a special thanks to all the coaching staff who oversaw the non existent pre season training programme.

The combined efforts of all of the above chancers and idiots will probably result in relegation, fire sales and ultimately administration for the club.

Just remind me again about these Chinese Business Men and their business acumen!

A useless bunch of gamblers who have run out of luck.
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clapton bluenose
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The thought of us in league one under ffp and at the risk of our owners losing interest scares me.

It also scares me thinking that some would be happy to see Sc oversee our chances of bouncing back.

TTA have in the past shown they are incompetent and it would appear they continue to be so if Dein is the man advising them. I would feel a lot more comfortable with his role if he wasnít an agent.

I find it hard to buy into the concept the players we have are not good enough. They are all good enough at championship level. What they lack more than anything else is all in the head. Have we become to accustomed to losing for example?




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bluenoseboris
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For me its DEIN

He's the secret Villa super spy that come in undercover to kill our club

Behind the scenes he's there lurking and pulling the club into all the wrong directions

He would be first on my list followed swiftly by The Farmer.

Unlike nearly all on here - I actually don't get too angry with the owners. They have put so many millions in and should we throw stones at them
because they just don't know what they are doing and take the wrong advice from Dein?

Yes the owners need to go and at some point of course they will, they all do, but in many ways I feel sorry for them. They looked at GR, saw the boring football, and
got attracted away to the dumb Italian. The great intentions were there - it was just a huge error - we all make those.

So then they went for British experience, a big name, and again it did not work out. But hey, after the Italian was it not worth going in that direction?

Then they went for the no man Farmer. Another different direction from the Italian and the Brit, now we have the no real experience, no name, trainer, but thats not working either.

The owners are trying - its just not bloody working out for them.

Start with DEIN - get rid of hm ASAP.
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beegeeblueboy
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bluenoseboris
Jan 14 2018, 10:36 AM
For me its DEIN

He's the secret Villa super spy that come in undercover to kill our club

Behind the scenes he's there lurking and pulling the club into all the wrong directions

He would be first on my list followed swiftly by The Farmer.

Unlike nearly all on here - I actually don't get too angry with the owners. They have put so many millions in and should we throw stones at them
because they just don't know what they are doing and take the wrong advice from Dein?

Yes the owners need to go and at some point of course they will, they all do, but in many ways I feel sorry for them. They looked at GR, saw the boring football, and
got attracted away to the dumb Italian. The great intentions were there - it was just a huge error - we all make those.

So then they went for British experience, a big name, and again it did not work out. But hey, after the Italian was it not worth going in that direction?

Then they went for the no man Farmer. Another different direction from the Italian and the Brit, now we have the no real experience, no name, trainer, but thats not working either.

The owners are trying - its just not bloody working out for them.

Start with DEIN - get rid of hm ASAP.
Spot on BNB about the owners. As for Agent Dein Iíll assume your have your tongue in your cheek :-)
Edited by beegeeblueboy, Jan 14 2018, 10:56 AM.
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bluenoseboris
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beegeeblueboy
Jan 14 2018, 10:54 AM
bluenoseboris
Jan 14 2018, 10:36 AM
For me its DEIN

He's the secret Villa super spy that come in undercover to kill our club

Behind the scenes he's there lurking and pulling the club into all the wrong directions

He would be first on my list followed swiftly by The Farmer.

Unlike nearly all on here - I actually don't get too angry with the owners. They have put so many millions in and should we throw stones at them
because they just don't know what they are doing and take the wrong advice from Dein?

Yes the owners need to go and at some point of course they will, they all do, but in many ways I feel sorry for them. They looked at GR, saw the boring football, and
got attracted away to the dumb Italian. The great intentions were there - it was just a huge error - we all make those.

So then they went for British experience, a big name, and again it did not work out. But hey, after the Italian was it not worth going in that direction?

Then they went for the no man Farmer. Another different direction from the Italian and the Brit, now we have the no real experience, no name, trainer, but thats not working either.

The owners are trying - its just not bloody working out for them.

Start with DEIN - get rid of hm ASAP.
Spot on BNB about the owners. As for Agent Dein Iíll assume your have your tongue in your cheek :-)
**thumbup Ive been trying hard to think how or why DEIN is able to do whats he's doing.
IF he really was a closet Villa fan then at least it would explain a few things.
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bluenosealan
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Guys, please, these owners aren't giving us their money.
It's loaned to Blues at high interest rates.
It's not a gift.
They probably think it's a safer bet than gambling in a Macau casino.
When the time comes we owe them every last penny back, be it by some miracle next season with Premier League riches, or most likely flogging off what's left of saleable assets in BCFC, and trousering any resale from Butland and Gray.
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beegeeblueboy
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bluenosealan
Jan 14 2018, 11:24 AM
Guys, please, these owners aren't giving us their money.
It's loaned to Blues at high interest rates.
It's not a gift.
They probably think it's a safer bet than gambling in a Macau casino.
When the time comes we owe them every last penny back, be it by some miracle next season with Premier League riches, or most likely flogging off what's left of saleable assets in BCFC, and trousering any resale from Butland and Gray.
We know it was an investment not a gift. What we are saying was they spent it with a view of making us successful thus giving them a chance of getting it repaid and and annual return until it could be repaid. The fact they allowed it to be misspent is the issue.

Plus of course at increase in the share price to give them a profit on sale.
Edited by beegeeblueboy, Jan 14 2018, 12:48 PM.
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backofthenet
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clapton bluenose
Jan 14 2018, 08:53 AM
Heís won 4 games from 17 drew 3 and lost 10. Weíve only scored 9 times during that time.

I feel sorry for the fella but it just ainít good enough.
lets not beat about the bush Derby are far better than us and in the end were good value for the win albeit 3-0 was a bit harsh but they are 2nd in the league and will likely get auto promotion / definitely be in the play offs.

But we've won 2 and drew 1 of those 17 games in past 4


Derby aren't our competition at the moment - we need to see if the improvement in past 3-4 games continues against lesser opposition - I may be wrong but I think we have turned a corner and will stay up. That's not saying that SC will do anything more for us than make us a mid table championship side (which is what we are with the players we have) but hopefully at least we stay in this league and lets see where we go from there - cant these current owners sell next year under the terms of their takeover?
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clapton bluenose
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backofthenet
Jan 14 2018, 12:44 PM
clapton bluenose
Jan 14 2018, 08:53 AM
Heís won 4 games from 17 drew 3 and lost 10. Weíve only scored 9 times during that time.

I feel sorry for the fella but it just ainít good enough.
lets not beat about the bush Derby are far better than us and in the end were good value for the win albeit 3-0 was a bit harsh but they are 2nd in the league and will likely get auto promotion / definitely be in the play offs.

But we've won 2 and drew 1 of those 17 games in past 4


Derby aren't our competition at the moment - we need to see if the improvement in past 3-4 games continues against lesser opposition - I may be wrong but I think we have turned a corner and will stay up. That's not saying that SC will do anything more for us than make us a mid table championship side (which is what we are with the players we have) but hopefully at least we stay in this league and lets see where we go from there - cant these current owners sell next year under the terms of their takeover?
Canít quite remember the qualifying period for TTA but it was something like 18 months before they could sell.

We have 5 games at home against our main rivals applying your logic and we simply cannot afford to lose any of them. Thatís massive pressure building on a man that is too thin skinned to handle it.

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backofthenet
Jan 14 2018, 12:44 PM
clapton bluenose
Jan 14 2018, 08:53 AM
Heís won 4 games from 17 drew 3 and lost 10. Weíve only scored 9 times during that time.

I feel sorry for the fella but it just ainít good enough.
lets not beat about the bush Derby are far better than us and in the end were good value for the win albeit 3-0 was a bit harsh but they are 2nd in the league and will likely get auto promotion / definitely be in the play offs.

But we've won 2 and drew 1 of those 17 games in past 4


Derby aren't our competition at the moment - we need to see if the improvement in past 3-4 games continues against lesser opposition - I may be wrong but I think we have turned a corner and will stay up. That's not saying that SC will do anything more for us than make us a mid table championship side (which is what we are with the players we have) but hopefully at least we stay in this league and lets see where we go from there - cant these current owners sell next year under the terms of their takeover?
I believe TTA can sell us from Oct 2018 and it looks like the new owners are the ones giving us the loans and/or capitalising them.
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david_speedie
Jan 14 2018, 09:12 AM
Itís awful. If we stick weíre down. If we gamble, we may get someone in who gets a bit of new manager bounce, similar to when we bought in Rowett, and have half a chance
Yes, well worth the gamble. Iím afraid Cotterill just isnít good enough.
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scudwalker
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Youve got to let SC run to the end of the season now. If you cannot see an improvement in the last four games then you need to go and get certified.

If we go and get another manager now we will be down at least we have a shout with things improving at the moment.

The Derby game game was always going to be one on the chin and move on we have far more important games than playing a top 2 side.
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beegeeblueboy
Jan 14 2018, 12:51 PM
backofthenet
Jan 14 2018, 12:44 PM
clapton bluenose
Jan 14 2018, 08:53 AM
Heís won 4 games from 17 drew 3 and lost 10. Weíve only scored 9 times during that time.

I feel sorry for the fella but it just ainít good enough.
lets not beat about the bush Derby are far better than us and in the end were good value for the win albeit 3-0 was a bit harsh but they are 2nd in the league and will likely get auto promotion / definitely be in the play offs.

But we've won 2 and drew 1 of those 17 games in past 4


Derby aren't our competition at the moment - we need to see if the improvement in past 3-4 games continues against lesser opposition - I may be wrong but I think we have turned a corner and will stay up. That's not saying that SC will do anything more for us than make us a mid table championship side (which is what we are with the players we have) but hopefully at least we stay in this league and lets see where we go from there - cant these current owners sell next year under the terms of their takeover?
I believe TTA can sell us from Oct 2018 and it looks like the new owners are the ones giving us the loans and/or capitalising them.
If that's true then its Chinese owners again who will no doubt have no clue about championship football or are carsons mates, yes I still believe he is in the shadows somewhere. We need to get our club away from these people and back to normal ownership.
What will they be like if we go down to League 1 which lets face we could, forget those few wins,the rest of our form is disusting then what will happen as our finances are shot,we owe more than we are worth, could face 12 point deduction and administration if things really go belly up
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