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Topic Started: Jun 16 2005, 07:09 AM (592 Views)
hughesie
Ian Bennett
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bowyer said he aint coming because of the minority who were not will ing to take a chance.

Thank you, and role on another season of medicroty
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Hooby Groovy
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Of course, we all know that the ones that signed the petition are the same ones who will be complaining in November that the team is struggling and questioning why we didn't buy a midfielder.

The guy that started the petition is famed for his criticism of the Blues board and management - you fell right in to his trap

Well done, that was really great guys

And the fact that you even trawled around Aston Villa sites with your petition really galls :blink:
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nick_p
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Get over it. And stop treating Lee Bowyer like some kind of footballing messiah. I didn't realise messiahs were those who got themselves suspended for a selfish, mindless act at a key point in the season: result, Newcastle get knocked out of two cup competitions and slump down the league. What exactly is messianic about that?
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hughesie
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no one is saying he is messianic, just a player that would have improved our squad and our team for next season for next to no transfer fee

he is a player our manger wanted, and now because of a few fans, not the player his agent or another club, he has chosen to go elsewhere
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Hooby Groovy
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Get over it. And stop treating Lee Bowyer like some kind of footballing messiah. I didn't realise messiahs were those who got themselves suspended for a selfish, mindless act at a key point in the season: result, Newcastle get knocked out of two cup competitions and slump down the league. What exactly is messianic about that?


I never said he was the messiah

I worry about the image of our club and the precedent this sets

Its hard enough for us to attract players - now we've got petitions against buying them

This, after last years attrocious treatment of Gronkjaer

It seems to me that the people that signed this petition are doing so on the basis of their own prejudices against Bowyer while understanding little actual fact

They are the prejudiced ones



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B25 YEWTREE LOYAL
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didnt sign the petition as my only interest is football,but did vote no in a poll.simply because i dont believe he is good enough,but as with emile if he were to sign i will judge him on what i see and then make up my mind then.but never boo him or seek for him to fail just to justify to myself i was right in the first place.
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Hooby Groovy
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didnt sign the petition as my only interest is football


I think thats a valid point

I strongly believe that there is a political motive behind the people that started this petition and that unwittingly people have been sucked-in
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nick_p
Jun 16 2005, 07:21 AM
Get over it. And stop treating Lee Bowyer like some kind of footballing messiah. I didn't realise messiahs were those who got themselves suspended for a selfish, mindless act at a key point in the season: result, Newcastle get knocked out of two cup competitions and slump down the league. What exactly is messianic about that?

I think you've got totally the wrong end of the stick nick - the issue is not about Bowyer it's about a handful of so-called 'supporters' (and I use the word in it's loosest possible context!) who are only happy when they're moaning about something. Less than a week after the Board and SB worked their b@lls off to sign a player that all of us wanted, they are left with egg-on-face due to a mindless minority of people. Of course, everyone has the right to their opinions on any aspect of the club, including players. But to start a petition and then 'fabricate' the result is over-stepping the mark! These message boards are the perfect vehicle for expressing opinion so why bother making such a public protest? As someone said in a previous thread, if you don't like what you're getting then vote with your feet and your wallet - don't go to the games!!

And just as a point of order - I'm not the biggest fan of Lee Bowyer as a person I didn't particularly want to see him at Blues. BUT, I respect the views and judgement of those who know better than me about whether or not a player will add value to the squad. If it was SB's view that Bowyer would have improved things (and I happen to agree that he would) then I'd have been happy to put my FULL support behind him when he pulled on the Blues shirt - and so would the VAST majority of GENUINE supporters.
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Joe Black
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And where does Bowyer expect to find a club with fans that will welcome him any differently to ours ?

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coolblue
Jun 16 2005, 07:43 AM
And where does Bowyer expect to find a club with fans that will welcome him any differently to ours ?

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spot on
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rodeo
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IRONIC, FANS SIGNED THE PETITION BECAUSE THEY THOUGH LEE BOWYER WOULD BRING THE CLUB BAD PUBLICITY, SO WHAT HAPPENS THE PETITION IS A RESULT OF BOWYER POSSIBLY REJECTING A MOVE, AND WHAT DO THE CLUB RECEIVE 'BAD PUBLICITY!'

THOS FANS WHO SIGNED THE PETITION SHOULD BE ASHAMED, WE HAVE BEEN CRYING OUT LOUD FOR A CENTRAL MIDFIELD PLAYER FOR THE PAST 6 MONTHS AND WHEN WE ARE OH SO CLOSE THE FANS HAVE TO MAKE A PERSONAL OPINION ABOUT THE PLAYER AND PUBLICISE THE FACTS.

DISGUSTING, BRING ON LEE BOWYER!!!!! I WANT TO SEE THIS GUY AT BCFC.

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hughesie
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3asygroove
Jun 16 2005, 08:41 AM
coolblue
Jun 16 2005, 07:43 AM
And where does Bowyer expect to find a club with fans that will welcome him any differently to ours ?

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spot on

probably no where,

some wont like it, but they will not show such animosity even before he has turned at the club, and will support a player they know has talent
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alfboy
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Bowyer hasn't turned us down because of any petition, he's turned us down because we haven't offered him enough money and he wants to go back to london.

If you really think that Bowyer is bothered what 100 people think of him you're out of your mind
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rodeo
Jun 16 2005, 09:51 AM
IRONIC, FANS SIGNED THE PETITION BECAUSE THEY THOUGH LEE BOWYER WOULD BRING THE CLUB BAD PUBLICITY, SO WHAT HAPPENS THE PETITION IS A RESULT OF BOWYER POSSIBLY REJECTING A MOVE, AND WHAT DO THE CLUB RECEIVE 'BAD PUBLICITY!'

THOS FANS WHO SIGNED THE PETITION SHOULD BE ASHAMED, WE HAVE BEEN CRYING OUT LOUD FOR A CENTRAL MIDFIELD PLAYER FOR THE PAST 6 MONTHS AND WHEN WE ARE OH SO CLOSE THE FANS HAVE TO MAKE A PERSONAL OPINION ABOUT THE PLAYER AND PUBLICISE THE FACTS.

DISGUSTING, BRING ON LEE BOWYER!!!!! I WANT TO SEE THIS GUY AT BCFC.

Rodeo you may not know but posting in caps is classed as shouting. and we are not deaf :D

Secondly until DS came out with his statement no one was too aware of the petition. so in a way he gave it far more publicity than the originators could ever have wished for.
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I personally did not sign the petition, those who did did not realise the backlash this would cause, and they ARE supporters, they care who comes to our club and that makes them a fan. Sadly this got leaked and now we as a club look the idiot, i'm gutted we have upset Sullivan who to be fair has worked his backside off for our club, i'm also worried that this might put off other potential signings. However a part of me is pleased that he isn't coming. I don't rate him that much as a player and his reputation just makes me that little more put off.

Its a shame this is the most fighting I have seen on these boards for soem time and only days after we get our wonder boy signing.
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alfboy
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I did sign the petition, but did not expect it to have this affect.
I didn't realise it would be made public, I did not expect it to even be shown to the board. I treated it like I would a poll on here, I didn't want us to sign Bowyer so I signed it.

If I'd have known all this would come from it I wouldn't have signed it.


Despite that, only about 100 signatures are on that petition as I understand it, I don't think that's enough to really change Bowyers mind, I still believe he won't come because he wants to go back to London.
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djmmusic
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220 signatures at the last count.

It seems Bowyer was going to a London club anyway,but this has actually been very good publicity for Birmingham City. For once we are seen in the national press not as pitch invading thugs and hooligans,but as genuinely concerned fans making a stand against violence and rejecting the tag of racism,and expressing it in a democratic way.

That can hardly be called bad publicity.
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MK_Blues
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I don't care too much about political issues within football and how we are seen to much of the outside world. I just want to see a good football team that provides a little more excitement than much of the dull stuff we had to watch last season.
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djmmusic
Jun 16 2005, 09:47 AM
220 signatures at the last count.

It seems Bowyer was going to a London club anyway,but this has actually been very good publicity for Birmingham City. For once we are seen in the national press not as pitch invading thugs and hooligans,but as genuinely concerned fans making a stand against violence and rejecting the tag of racism,and expressing it in a democratic way.

That can hardly be called bad publicity.

If only it was seen this way, you just know that some elements of the media are gonna spin it into us being very fickle fans who dont even give players a chance to prove themselves at a club.

I didnt sign the petition as I believe that you cant pick and choose what sort of things you launch petitions at. Throughout this whole thing all I could think was "where was the dont sign Pennant petition?". At the time there was a number of people on here tha twere seriously against him coming here because of his conviction, yet they didnt start a petition against him coming here, they just voiced there concerns and objections on here like most normal people would. There just isnt any point in starting a chuffin petition about it.

My opinion about this whole fiasco is that I think that Bowyer would greatly increase the power of our midfield and if he became settled here he would be a great addition to the squad. I dont believe he is a racist just very prone to violence, it is for this that I am worried about him signing as Im worried what someone who is prone to engage fists before brain would do for team spirit, but if he signed I would give him the benefit of the doubt and let him prove himself just like I would any player.

I just cant help think that some (not all) of the people that signed the petition are some of the same that hounded out gronkjaer and if they have succeeded in turning another player away from the club itll be another dark day at the blues (it doesnt matter if Bowyer doesnt come because of money or because WH is his club, the point is that this petition, however small, falsified and irrelevant, would not warm anyone into coming here)

Ill be glad when all mention of this fiasco dies away

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jk35
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There is no way anyone should sign a petition like this until he had been given a chance at the Blues. Bowyer is a quality midfield player. End of.

Instead we had people like nick p posting thins on here giving links to other pages that had no relevance to anything other than to prove that people were jumping on the bandwagon without any facts and thinking they were clever. Well look where it has got us, so thank you all very much.
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